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Originally Posted by Talbotman
B/B i can only tell you that i used to love pattaya i could never foresee the day i would change my opinion, but my last 3 visits have been gradually eroding my love for the place. Basically its been overun by arabs and russians and i genuinely dislike the place intensely now on my recent visit i left to go to samui 2 days earlier than planned, i was never a big fan of walking street i was always a soi pattayland 2 and soi 2 man but even those areas have been t aken over, i have stayed at the carlton hotel on soi 5 on my last 17 visits but the last 2 times i have been saddled with cheep charlies who seem to think its a good idea to buy cheap booze from the supermarket and sit next to the swimming pool all night getting pissed and agressive and generally causing noise and disturbance to everyone who is trying to sleep (or shag) i am not a party pooper i can get pissed and have fun as much as anyone but i tend to want to be in the company of sensible people and the russians who have taken over pattaya are not in this category i am sorry to say so from now on its bangkok/patong/hua hin/samui for me pattaya is history as i s the case for my 2 friends who were with me 1 (31 visits) the other 14 visits. but for anyone who has a different opinion on the place good luck to you but i am just giving my views and i will definately never return to pattaya.
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I was only kidding b4 Talbotman with the ''tired of life'' quip
After 20 visits I can see how any man would get jaded with pattaya, for me it is the kind of place you should only go to for a short stay.
Last may I spent 3 weeks there and it was too much, 1 week would have been enough in reality.
Pattaya has become incredibly popular with the russians,cheap charlies and the general dregs of society. Perhaps because of it's reputation for being cheap in general ?
At the end of my last tour after the wonderful time I had in Chiang mai for Loy Kratong, I decided to hit pattaya instead of BKK to see out my visit.
I never regret going there as I like the buzz of the place, can be very wild at times. I also think the Agogo's are some of the best in los, for various reasons which can't be discussed as big brother is watching.
But it's certainly true that some of the clientele there are somewhat ''undesirable'' nowadays and I agree with you on that.
Took my lady friend for some crab 1 night, went to the King Crab restaurant on walking st. I have eaten there many times and always had a pleasant evening but I remember seeing so many groups of lads there that night, all f'ing and blinding, mouthing off about what they did the night b4 with previous conquests, bear in mind this is a restaurant and not cheap charlie agogo on soi trailer park trash so you would naturally expect people to be a little more tact in this establishment.
Just then a large contingent of russians appear, they had to move the furniture around to accomodate them, must have been around 15 or 16 at a guess. Now I'm not one to judge anyone for their cultural differences but these russians seemed very loud, a little overbearing and had no sense of how they might appear to others. I was glad to finally finish eating and shout out for the bill.
I have seen many people partying in the hotels and pools of patong at night and casuing a disturbance so I don't just think it's only in pattaya.
It is a shame that pattaya is attracting a lot of rubbish but I suppose it was always gonna happen, look how famous the place has become.But in reality you can become bored with anywhere, that happened to me with patong which is why I felt the need to give it a rest for a while and try something new. The same beaches, bar areas and so on became a little too same same and I have read this from other bm's here in the past.
Rather than just saying ''I will never return'', I would rather keep my options open as pattaya still rocks when it comes to the nightlife. Beach each to their own at the end of the day.