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Old 28-02-2006, 03:22
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Originally Posted by dizbuster
I assume that you want to change to the points system so that you see a game with more emphasis on rewarding tries with big points and kicks with less. I tend to agree with this and so far my argument has been to reduce penalties to 2 points, i.e. a team need 4 penalties to class back the 7 points lost by a converted try. However, the down side to this is that sides might score a try and then feel that they can give away 3 penalties before it really costs them.

Another idea I have had, is to get rid of the open and blindside flankers, reducing teams to 13. This would open up the pitch more and you won't see as many instances with backs involved in the breakdown area being replaced by forwards in the "back line".

The one thing that I feel is currently out of control, is the handling of the ball in a ruck situation. The part that says a player can play the ball only if he is on his feet, is so open to abuse that it has now got to the stage where it is starting to spoil the game. This was the case so much over the weekend in the SCO/ENG and IRE/WAL games. The ball was so slow coming back out of the rucks sometimes that it was almost embarrassingly obvious that players were up to no good and yet the ref can do nothing. Also, people "fringing" the rucks are not being penalised enough for being back far enough. I may be wrong, but aren't they supposed to be behind the last "limb" of the ruck ? There were far too many instances where this was so clearly not the case and again it resulted in "slow ball".

Apparently there are trials in South Africa going on where the ruck simply "disappears" !! Well, that is my interpretation - what is actually being said is that players will be able to use their hands in a ruck situation, meaning now that the ruck goes and is replaced completely by the maul even when the player is on the floor. Supposedly, this new rule could be introduced in 2007.

Yep Diz....I am sick of teams not going for tries and just accumulating points with a good kicker

It is not unusual for a team to get 3 soft penalties inside their attacking half and score 9 points whilst the oposite team has all of the teritory and is playing for tries down the other end.........then the whole complexion of the game changes and it becomes a negative match as the team trying for tries goes back into its shell and tries to get points on the board by shooting for goal.......happpens too much and at the risk of sounding pro southern hemisphere rugby.....too much in the northern hemisphere..........a lot of this is because of the bonus point system for tries 4+ scored in both the Super14 + TriNations series.....and this then carries over to the rest of these teams rugby once it has been engendered in them

I agree with you about the rucks.......they are a mess and a real problem for referees...........same as te offsied rule in soccer...you can tinker with it but it's still always going to be a problem area

Mauls too these days seem to be unfairly weighted to the advantage of the team attacking with the ball......you can't get anywhere near the ball and you are responsible for the maul staying up whilst trying desperately to stop the attacking teams momentum...................

Field Goals............I'm sick of soft field goals.......it should be harder to win a game than this..........and I really hate it when a team which has scored tries gets beaten on field goals by a team that hasn't......

I agree with your point about a team who scores atry having a large advantage and then giving away penalties when the oppostion is on attack.........that's why I have kept penalties at 3 points covered this with......"and a penalty try be given by all referees at all times when a deliberate infringement is made against the attacking team to stop them from going over!!"

I am interested in the new trials you are talking about for rucks/mauls..........get get even uglier though???

I think Rugby should be all about scoring tries......that's why I watch it anyway.........
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