[Izzy]

If many of those people complaining that Pattaya is a shit hole actually traveled just a minor distance then the scene and the scenery totally changes...point to point the length of Pattaya bay is approx the same as Patong (itself hardly a gleaming jewel, the mats layed out on bangla are not for comfort!)....go 5 or so miles from Patong and your in Kata or center of Phuket town....similarly in Pattaya travel 5 miles or so and your out by Lake Maprachan....10 miles away and theres lovely clean quiet beaches, nearly zero tourists....As ive said before on here, dont complain about Pattaya when all you see is the small bit you stay in...People talk about phuket in its entirety when comparing to Pattaya, but travel similar distances in and around Chonburi and it has loads to offer above and beyond WS.

p.s. Yes some places were open, Slim was due to its owners having "Friends" (some police even dropped by)...didn't leave there till 5am this morning.