[Sparkle]

I think garyteets was more saying that in premeditated cases where they guy/gang or whoever is planning to rape you and gets you into a position where they are set up to do it....no amount of say no! is going to stop it......it comes down to if you can escape or not......

every woman in the situation of being raped is saying NO......but at that point it makes no difference at all....they are raping you unless you can get away.

so i think he was more saying that the unfortunate situations of bg's is that they find themselves in these terrible situations regularly where it really comes down to if the guy they are with is a rapist or not, at that point, if he is a rapist, simply changing ones mind and saying no i don't want to be raped is not going to have an effect that it would on a decent guy who is not a rapist.......if he is planning to rape there is not much chance for the girl..... if he is not then things will progress as the transaction she agreed to.

so i don't think the issue is can she change her mind, she can and should be able to (i think Garyteets is saying that too)....but in the case of rape.....it most likely won't make any difference....a criminal will be a criminal.

in terms of passion /rage/lust i guess there would be cases that cover all those bases at times.