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Old 04-06-2005, 06:26
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Ho Brokenheart,

I found this on Thai Visa .... Hope this helps
Domi

Better rent than buy condominium in Thailand


In recent weeks I have received several enquiries with regard to

buying real estate property. These have inevitably been from a

middle-aged (or older) expatriate who has decided to settle in

Thailand with the girl of his dreams that he met last month or the

month before, who loves him so much that sheıs leaving her place of

work in Soi 8 or Pattayaland Soi 2 to settle down in the nice little

house sheıs found for them somewhere along Jomtien Beach.



Usually, the enquirer wants to find out why the property cannot be

held in his own name, and if itıs okay to put it in his girlfriendıs

name.



Some of these enquirers are so naïve that they even ask how they can

obtain a mortgage on the property. ³Oh dear,² I think when I hear

these tales, ³Not another oneв



For their own protection



At the height of the currency crisis in 1997, Thailand had agreed

with the IMF to liberalise its laws with regard to foreigners owning

real estate in Thailand.



The matter was debated in parliament and the press at great length,

and the usual jingoistic (some would say xenophobic) statements were

aired that if the protectionist laws were amended, we greedy farangs

would sweep in and buy up all the land in Thailand and exploit the

poor innocent Thais in our typical colonialist fashion.



(I wonder why the fact that Thais or anyone else with money can buy

any amount of landed property in the U.K. or U.S.A. is never aired as

a counter-argument, and neither the British nor Americans seem

terribly worried that their country is going to be taken over by

colonising Asians * but that perhaps is another topic for another

day.)



So the debate went on and on, and announcements were eventually made

that the law was going to be amended to allow foreigners to lease up

to 1 rai of land for up to 30 years, on which to build a residential

property * provided this was preceded by a remittance equivalent to 10

million baht of hard currency from overseas deposited in a bank in

Thailand.



However, like several other politically unpopular bills, this one also

is still pending, as far as Iım aware.



Nonetheless, some local real estate firms trumpet in their

advertisements that foreigners can now own their own property. But

this is just a clever ploy to get you through their doors. The

mechanism which has been used for years to get around this

protectionist law has not in fact changed.



The facts

An expatriate can own a condominium in his own name provided not more

than 40% of the apartments in the condominium complex are owned by

foreigners. That has been the case for a long time already.



But if you want to buy a house or land, an expatriate can only do so

through a legally registered company, of which a single expatriate

cannot own more than 39% of the shares (recently amended from 33%),

and collectively not more than 49%.



You also need at least six Thai partners to hold the remaining shares

(although you can go a long way to protect your interests by being the

sole authorised signatory and ensuring these local partners sign their

undated resignations and share transfer deeds at the time of setting

up the company.)



Of course, you could avoid the costs & hassle of setting up a company

by putting the house in your wife/girlfriendıs name. This will

undoubtedly make her very happy * even happier than the visits you

made to her favourite gold shop and motorcycle shop (which are the

usual precursors to visiting the real estate agency.)

However, what happens a year or two down the road when you have a

major disagreement about something, or her Thai Œhusbandı shows up

(they all seem to have them squirreled away somewhere)? You, like so

many before you, may find yourself standing on Jomtien Beach with only

your passport in one hand and a bag of clothes in the otherŠand your

life savings gone.



Getting a mortgage



In U.K., U.S.A. or Europe, getting a mortgage on a property is almost

taken for granted. Few people are in a position to buy a property for

cash on the table.



The relatively low price of property in Thailand means that many

expatriates who decide to settle here are tempted to buy a residential

property, or a shophouse for their girl-friend to run a travel agency,

beauty salon, snooker hall or beer bar on the ground floor, while they

love * I mean live * upstairs.



Some of the more naïve ones imagine that they can just march into a

local bank and get a mortgage on the strength of the property and

their Œpersonalı guarantee on behalf of their girlfriend.



Sorry, but that isnıt going to happen.



Unlike in the West, where the title to the property guarantees the

bank in the event of default, and an endowment or insurance policy its

money in the event of the borrowerıs dying, laws in Thailand to help

banks recoup bad debts were only implemented last year, and the

efficiency of the court system is such that it could take up to 10

years to recoup defaultersı bad debts.



Banks are not interested in holding real estate on their books, since

this is a non-performing Œdeadı asset; they want to recover the money

they lent, to lend it to someone else and earn interest on the loan.



Understandable, since theyıre in the money business, not the real

estate business.



Look at the numbers of non-performing loans (still around 43% of total

loans issued by local banks), and the high percentage of mortgage

defaulters, and that might give you some inkling why banks here have

virtually stopped offering new mortgages on real estate.



In Europe, banks can seize collateral property and sell it on fairly

quickly. Here, in a depressed property market, even auctions have

proven less than totally successful in moving those real estate

properties which banks have been able to repossess against defaulting

loans. More often than not the few meagre bids have not reached the

bankıs reserve price, and the bank simply withdraws the property from

the auction.



Obtaining a mortgage anywhere will depend largely on the ability of

the borrower to repay the loan. This will be evaluated by the lending

institution on the basis of stability of employment income and past

credit record.



Nowadays, even local business people with good credit records are

having great difficulty obtaining mortgages. Typically, they have to

show they have at least the value of the mortgage on deposit in the

bank already, and are prepared to keep it there as collateral.



So if youıre prepared to deposit the value of the property in the bank

* in her name, of course * she might be able to get a mortgage if she

has a good employment record and her regular salary is sufficient to

repay the loan. And of course the property then has to be in her

rather than your name.



But to imagine that an expatriate boyfriend (who could leave the

country any time) will be accepted by any bank as guarantor of a

mortgage being applied for by a local lass whose employment record

comprises working in a go-go bar for a year or two, and whose average

bank balance has been perhaps 400 baht a month, is naïve in the

extreme.
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