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Through checkin
It has been the norm to check your luggage through to your final destination, well it appears that its a growing trend for airlines to not permit this any longer, where the passenger has more than one ticket.
Say you have a ticket Cork/London/Singapore and a separate ticket Singapore/Phuket, you will have your luggage checked through to Singapore, as it is on one ticket, however your luggage will need to be collected in Singapore and rechecked through to Phuket, regardless of existing interline agreements.
Some of the airlines that have been reported to have started this, are
- British Midland
- Briitish Airways
- Air Canada
- Virgin Atlantic
And this list of airlines is expected to increase. The airlines are stating security as the reason behind. This could affect a signifcant number of BM's as alot fly into Bangkok and then fly down to Phuket on a separate ticket. Something to be aware of in this ever changing world of air travel.
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20-05-2006, 06:51
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I had this a few years ago with BA, then it stopped. I put it down to poorly trained staff who didn't know how to do it with two tickets!
I believe there has to be an agreement between the airlines in order for the baggage to be checked through.
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I believe there has to be an agreement between the airlines in order for the baggage to be checked through.
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Agreement or not, if there are 2 tickets involved, some airlines are nolonger allowing through luggage check, and it is expected to flow onto other airlines soon. Just notice to everyone to ask at checkin.
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20-05-2006, 08:55
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This is from BA's website:-
"As long as you have a same day connection you will be 'through-checked' to your final destination, regardless of separate tickets.
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The above is valid provided you are able to produce proof or documentation of onward travel and that the connection is within airport minimum connect times, is within the same day and meets local country restrictions."
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OK whatever, but I'm just put it out there that things are/will be changing.
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Reckon this could have serious consequences as you will have to allow a hell of a lot of time ,to clear immigration, collect luggage ,get through customs then check-in for your next flight.
When flying Emirates , I have to do this but at least with Thai , I can always check straight through. Wonder how this will affect airlines from global alliances , ie. Star Alliance , because at the moment you can definately check bags through as long as they issue all your boarding passes at initial check-in.
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20-05-2006, 10:54
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Your right it will cause some problems. There is quiet abit of talk about it over at flyertalk.com
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20-05-2006, 11:18
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There is quiet abit of talk about it over at flyertalk.com
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Checked them out already , usually get some good advice/tips from them.
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20-05-2006, 11:46
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Would this include a transfer with Singair to Singapore then its sister airline Silkair to Phuket?
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Would this include a transfer with Singair to Singapore then its sister airline Silkair to Phuket?
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What they are saying is, if the journey is not on the same ticket, then some airlines are not allowing through checkin. I havnt seen any reference anywhere about Singapore Airlines doing this.
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It Happened A Lot To Me When I Used To Fly With Other Airlines...but Htis Was About Are Lingus Not Having Some Agreements With The Other Airlines.....this Meant I Had To Book Them To London ...collect Them And Then Book Them To Phkt......but Since I Started Flying Singapore.......they Check Them All The Way Through.......maybe It Mite Be Different On June30.......
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Same Same here. Having more and more problems getting my stuff through to where I want it without having to pick it up and check it back in at each airport.
Latest trip for me was Baghdad - Dubai - Manchester - Dubai - Bangkok - Phuket - Bangkok - Dubai - Baghdad. I did manage to get my hold luggage from Manchester to Phuket without seeing it.
I can understand Baghdad and Dubai having these regulations. I move from Baghdad, beltless, shoeless, lighterless, no jacket, through seven checks to get on the aircraft to be met in Amman at the bottom of the steps by a walk through metal detector and my hand luggage x-rayed before I can get to the terminal. It is a pain for us moving from Iraq as everyone assumes we are carrying explosives, grenades, weapons and ammunition etc! (One day I did! But that's another story for another time!!!) I live with it!
You can imagine my luggage going through with a BGW (or SDA) luggage sticker on it and blokes with dogs just jumping all over it! If they know the SDA code that is!
It might be well to keep an eye on the situation and see if it deteriorates. I get peed off enough at airports without the possibility of this new security measure being implimented................Although! We would all be concerned if there wasn't 'any' security..........It's finding the right middle path of having the right amount for us all to travel in safety.....and that takes time IMHO.
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Your right it will cause some problems. There is quiet abit of talk about it over at flyertalk.com
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Didn't know about that one, I usually use pprune.org.uk to get the inside info.
Interesting thread on there from the trolley dollies about celebrity passengers.
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I move from Baghdad, beltless, shoeless, lighterless, no jacket...
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LOL - My - pants won't stay up, my feet are cold, I can't light my Smoke and I have no where to put my wallet.
Sounds like my mate when he came back for "half time" on his current tour in Iraq. But they let him bring a half full bucket of Iraqi Sand with him,  Go Figure.
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The introduction of low cost carieres or associalted airlines makes it more and more difficult to check your luggage through.
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It's been a pain in recent years flying through the US to other destinations, or even to within the US, to have to collect your bags at the port of entry and haul them across the airport to your connecting international or domestic flight.
Solution: I stopped flying through the US and therefore with US airlines - that's how I came to start travelling East instead of West and found my way to LOS
There was a radio piece a couple of days ago about changes to British Airways' carry-on baggage policies. At the moment they are pretty Draconian, particularly for economy passengers. Apparently the rules will change very soon to allow two pieces of carry-on luggage of ANY WEIGHT (so long as you can lift it) and it fits within a little basket at check-in that didn't sound much different from the current size limit (size of a weekend bag). The second bag would be a smaller laptop case or similar. They said the cabins could take it, although the ridiculous limits currently imposed were always said to be because of the risk of injury if bags were to fall/be dropped from overhead lockers - that seems to have been thrown out. The new rules will apply to all classes.
This is good news for me because I like to travel with just carry-on, and when I don't, such as when carrying scuba gear, I'll be able to take some of the heavier stuff as carry-on and fit more clothing, and souvenirs on the return, into the checked bags. Checked bag rules are not changing at the moment but are expected to be next to be reviewed. At the moment there is a huge difference between most destinations (20-odd kg) and the US/Canada/Caribbean (60-odd kg). It is said they are likely to be standardized.
Why change the carry-on rules? Seems to be driven by security; people like me carry lots of stuff in small bags (camera, small bag, pockets filled to the brims, bags on the belt etc.) and those that do not organize themselves as well as I do on the approach to security checks slow things down considerably. If they can be encouraged to put everything into one or two bags, then it will speed things up. Also the airline anticipates savings in checked baggage handling.
This does seem to be at odds with rising fuel costs, as more cabin weight will mean more fuel usage.
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You could always use DHL or UPS to get your luggage to the final destination. I think DHL have a service for frequent fliers, where they pick your luggage up from home and guarantee delivery. It isn't cheap though.
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Ok, so say I fly Etihad Manc to BKK.
Say I have booked ticket online with Thai air - BKK - HKT.
Do I collect my Thai air tickets at BKK Thai air desk?
Do I show some kind of email confirmation at Manc to try to get my luggage straight through from Manc to HKT?
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Ok, so say I fly Etihad Manc to BKK.
Say I have booked ticket online with Thai air - BKK - HKT.
Do I collect my Thai air tickets at BKK Thai air desk?
Do I show some kind of email confirmation at Manc to try to get my luggage straight through from Manc to HKT?
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You will have to pick up your luggage up in Bkk and check them through again onto the Thai Air flight to Phuket, You will collect your ticket at the Thai Airways counter in Bkk for your flight to Phuket, For this you will need your email confirmation (reciept) and in some cases your CC (Although the normally dont ask)...
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I disagree. With just your flight details you should be able to check your bags all the way to your final destination. Have done it with a lot of different airlines without any problems. Also from many different destination to many airports around the world. It all depends on if the airlines in question do have an agreement involving the forwarding of bags. Most international airlines do have those agreements. LCC do not have those agreements. Maybe another reason to fly BKK-HKT with TG and not i.e. Air Asia...
And by the way....... BKK-HKT with TG. Should be E-ticket. No need to collect ticket in BKK.
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This seems to be something that is being brought in by quite a few airlines , not seen too much from Thai etc , but this is a quote from Air Canada who often have "code-share" flights with Thai.
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Effective June 1, 2006 customers traveling on separate tickets, whether Interline or online will no longer be allowed to through-check baggage.
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From what I can gather from other websites , if you are issued with a boarding pass for your next flight , then no problem . But , if you have to check-in for your next flight they may not check through luggage , as , if you "miss" your flight they would have to off load luggage , for security reasons. (Possibly causing delay and financial implications.)
Also found this on British Midland site , which may be useful to UK BM's who use connecting flights.
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through check-in policy
If you have booked connecting journeys using separate tickets, we no longer offer the facility of through check-in or through tagging of baggage. Only passengers with flight itineraries issued on a single ticket with one booking reference will qualify for the through check-in service, subject to minimum connection times. This policy applies to all connecting flights (bmi to bmi, bmi to other carriers and all codeshare flights). Passengers choosing to purchase separate tickets should allow sufficient time to collect any baggage and check-in again for onward flights.
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I think what Stevem has been saying several times and falling on deaf ears is that although it may not strictly be the case now be prepared for it all to change, possibly fairly quickly.
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I disagree. With just your flight details you should be able to check your bags all the way to your final destination. Have done it with a lot of different airlines without any problems. Also from many different destination to many airports around the world. It all depends on if the airlines in question do have an agreement involving the forwarding of bags. Most international airlines do have those agreements. LCC do not have those agreements. Maybe another reason to fly BKK-HKT with TG and not i.e. Air Asia...
And by the way....... BKK-HKT with TG. Should be E-ticket. No need to collect ticket in BKK.
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As far as I know Etihad and Thai do not have an agreement, Do you know something different than me?
I have also checked through my bags all the way through loads of times. But they have always been either on the same ticket or the airlines do be part of the same freqent flyer program.. Again do you know something I dont?
An example of this was my second tour to Los, I had booked my flights with Lufthansa to Bkk, And booked a seperate flight through Bangkokair, But when I asked could I get them booked through I was told no, She said if I had of booked through Thai Air instead, Then there would have been no problem as they are both members of staralliance... So had to pick my bags up in Bkk and re-check them back in at Bkk...
Yes your right about the E-ticket thing, You need to go upto the Thai check-in counter and they will just give you your boarding pass (Thats what I call a ticket btw  ).....
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