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Snoring Like Mad On The Plane
I have Sleep Apnea: which means you have a hard time breathing while you sleep. A bad side effect is that you snore like crazy. It sucks and could even kill me.
At home, I'll be wearing a CPAP mask, not sure if it'll be the nose one or the full face mask enchilada, but I probably will have to wear one while I sleep, like this:
For flying? I really don't know what I'm going to do. I have to do something like wear a batt powered CPAP mask, because my snoring really disturbs the wa inside the plane. I've had people slap me in the back of the head, nudge me, knock me, stamp their foot near me - just to wake me up. By the end of the trip, yep...people hate me.
Can't blame ya'll though. I'm one LOUD mofo and I truly do suck.
I have not seen the Sleep Doc yet, but I'm lining it all up. You have to sleep overnight at a clinic and it's rather a pain in the rear. But for the sake of my health, I have to do this. I'm going to take care of it ASAP, but in the mean time, I have some questions:
Do any of you folks have sleep apnea?
How do you deal with your apnea while flying?
Do you wear a CPAP Mask for sleeping on planes?
Does the airline provide you with A/C or do you have to go with batteries?
Do people look at you like a crazy man (a la Frank Booth from "Blue Velvet")?
I'm quite sure a lot of people have sleep apnea and travel, but never in all my days have I seen anyone wear a CPAP mask in public, like on a plane. I'm gonna look into doing it, though. I'd rather sleep well and wake up refreshed like most regular people.
I'm already thinking the mask is going to freak out the little honeys if I take a LT.
A related thread: Snoring Farang.
Appears a few other BMs have this problem as well.
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This unit looks rather unobtrusive for airline travel. And it's portable.
www.breathex.com/products.htm
Sleep Apnea KILLS. It shouldn't be taken lightly.
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I have a snoring problem too. Another problem is some B.G.'s play the Thai Karoke channel all night. I wonder if they do it to drown out the sound of my snoring.
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Geez Nidnoy.......a bit of a contraption to have to endure....sure am glad I don't have to wear one of those.......
Do you wear an orange boiler suit and get strapped to a hand cart before being wheeled aboard by a prison guard...... 
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Oxygen can be provided to a single seated passenger from overhead supplies on Boeing aircraft, not sure about Airbus. It is a single hose coming down from the overhead console and is very unintrusive. Make an enquiry to your airline. You will need medical paperwork.
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Hi NN,
Went to Fiji with a few of my friends. The first morning that we are scuba diving one of my buddies comes down to the boat looking like he had been on an all night bender.
He tells me that his roomate, another friend, has sleep apnea. Not knowing what he meant we discussed it at length.
I was in a room with 2 bedrooms and 3 ladies and we had a large living room so once I heard how loud my friend with sleep apnea was when he took a nap that afternoon I had Avi move in my room.
Never had heard of it so did not realise how serious it could be.
The good part(bad for me) of the story is that Avi got to know the lady that was rooming with me (just a friend of mine) and ended marrying her 2 years later. The bad part was that I got kicked out of my bed and had to sleep on a cot the whole trip while he slept in the bedroom with her.
Good luck with it. Have had friends get some throat surgery to stop their snoring but they did not have sleep apnea.
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My uncle has sleep Apnea too and he has to wear this kind of mask too every night. Sometimes i snore too very loud but i dont think its the same as it isn´t permanantly.
The mask can really freak the people, maybe they think you have an infective virus or you are already prepared for a terrorist attack.
So i would make sure the airline is informed.
I know sleep apnea can be very dangerous, as you stop to breathe sometimes.Damaging your heart too. Hope you get well and make a quick visit to the sleep doctor.Sometimes its only a little operation and the snoring stops.
Wish you a nice trip
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same here guys ,ive suffered from anapnea all my life ,its virtually impossible to sleep with a partner as they cant sleep ,
some say its because im over weight but it was just as bad when i was a skinny kid
im amazed at the number of guys that have it!
i dont worry about it on the aircraft ,although-- when i wake up i notice lots of people looking my way!!
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same here guys ,ive suffered from anapnea all my life ,its virtually impossible to sleep with a partner as they cant sleep ,
some say its because im over weight but it was just as bad when i was a skinny kid
im amazed at the number of guys that have it!
i dont worry about it on the aircraft ,although-- when i wake up i notice lots of people looking my way!!
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Dont worry about it, snore away. Most people will have their earphones on watching a movie so i would not worry too much. I snore like a pig if I have been drinking but I dont snore if I am sitting upright.
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look at the snoring ads at the bottom of the page oggy 5555555! were all saved!
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Yes I can put my hand up and say I have Sleep Apnea
Hi Nid Noy,
Yes I can put my hand up and say I have Sleep Apnea and a big snorer. I can tell you that once you get use to the CPAP, it will make awhole lot of difference. I finally did something about it 6 years ago, and it has improved my health and sleeping  . Once you get sorted out, you will find that you don't need to sleep as long as before, and feel more refreshed and with energy.
I travel quite a bit, and I don't sleep on planes, as I try and get a good sleep in before I travel the day before. So far this has been successful, even after the long haul flights. I have only seen once a man using the machine in business class, as he had to put the request into the airline to rig up a power connection for the machine.
You will find that people won't hear you snore anymore once the CPAP is in place, as the only noise that a partner may hear is the slight sound of air, which escapes from the CPAP when fitted.
My current TGF has accepted the CPAP which I use nightly, and has no issues sleeping together once accustomed to it. I find that she would rather have me use it than snoring my head off and not getting any sleep.
Since the relationship has been going well, I am now going to get the throat surgery done late August to see if I can go without the CPAP, as it is intrusive. Part of my problem is having large tonsils, which is getting removed first.
Happy to answer any questions you have...
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Thanks for your support....Whaa? ZZZZZzzzzzzzzz...
Thanks for the support gang. Recently, my apnea has been getting worse, so I can no longer ignore it. I've been waking up in the middle of the night gasping for breath. Scary stuff.
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same here guys ,ive suffered from anapnea all my life ,its virtually impossible to sleep with a partner as they cant sleep ,
some say its because im over weight but it was just as bad when i was a skinny kid.im amazed at the number of guys that have it!
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Oh Andy, man, I feel your pain. I've had it since I was skinny too.
And you're right, a LOT of people have it and may not even know about it.
Obstructive Sleep Apnea (OSA) affects people of all sizes, but it really gets the chubby folks. There is a rarer form where you subconciously forget to breathe. I'm not sure which one I have, probably OSA.
Even if you don't have OSA, getting fat doesn't help matters (and I'm getting freakin' fat, my brothers). I'm working on that too, but if you have apnea, you actually gain weight because of the apnea. Just one of those confounding facts of life. So the first thing you do is take care of the apnea, then you can take the weight off more easily. I've been back at the gym for 6 weeks now and have taken off about 15 lb. so far, so that is helpful and good for the head too. Cutting out the drinks and smokes close to beddy-bye time is also something I'm workin' on.
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A CPAP machine is considered a medical applicance and is allowed on board any aircraft. However, certain airports will hassle you more with one. Denver, CO has the worst reputation. So, you are right. It's probably best to inform the airline.
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Nice to know, but actually, it's not O2 that you are breathing with the mask, so you'd typically not need that. The mask is actually for keeping a seal around your nose and/or mouth, forcing air to keep your throat open as you sleep. However, certain people need both 02 and the forced air to sleep correctly. The airlines have a strict policy on O2, so you definitely have to let them know about your needs.
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Actually, sleep doctors say that most people have apnea to some degree. Kinda scary, eh? If you avoid alcohol and smoking close to bedtime, you can lessen the probability of having episodes of sleep apnea.
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I've heard that it works for some folks. But my buddy had it and said he had to have it redone every 5 years. I stayed with him last year and, yup, his apnea has returned. I guess he's due for another throat job.
The only 100% cure for apnea and excessive snoring is the CPAP mask. Some only have to wear the nose one, but some you have to wear the whole face mask. It's hard to get used to sleeping with such a mask, but after you get used to it, you can finally sleep like a normal person and you can sleep with a partner in the room.
Hopefully after the CPAP is doing its job and you lose enough weight, give up the smokes and drinks - I think you can beat the illness. That is, unless you have the rarer kind of apnea.
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I've been physically knocked in the head.
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I snore any which way I'm sitting or laying down. I gasp, snort and make other people get pissed off at me. Plus, you can have an episode like a stroke or a heart attack. That would SUCK midair on the way to LOS. I'm looking for a solution that doesn't ignore my problem. I'm gonna wear a mask, but perhaps I can find one that is small and not so scary looking. I wish I could "snore away", but I'm afraid it might kill me.
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You're so right. Your uncle was very smart to seek treatment. He'll likely live a lot longer now.
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It's bad news bro. And you've experienced it first-hand.
I suggest all BMs that might have this problem to have it checked out so we can have fun in LOS for years to come.
Cheers all.
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Sweet Jesus,
I would scare the life out of anyone with my mask on. I would be the wild eyed scary haired mask man in aisle 3c. Women would no doubt fall at my feet and men would be envious. Could you imagine sitting there with your whole mask and machine on, they guy sitting next to you would shit himeslf when you told him that these planes are not pressurised thats why you are wearing it as you dont want to risk brain damage due to the lack of oxygen.
Kinda cool to look a bit like a space man.
Seriously I know how bad it can get as I have a family member with this problem and she now is consdering surgery to help the problem. I read a report ages ago that there are loads of little things that you can do to help the problem, like changing mattress and buying contoured pillows, sleeping in a slightly tilted bed(head end up) losing weight, stop drinking & smoking, not sleeping on your back (wedge yourself in a comfy position with pillows) I have also heard about a spray that you squirt at the back of your throat that helps stop snoring.
I hope that you get this problem sorted.
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Sweet Jesus,
I would scare the life out of anyone with my mask on. I would be the wild eyed scary haired mask man in aisle 3c. Women would no doubt fall at my feet and men would be envious. Could you imagine sitting there with your whole mask and machine on, they guy sitting next to you would shit himeslf when you told him that these planes are not pressurised thats why you are wearing it as you dont want to risk brain damage due to the lack of oxygen.
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Good one mate!
Unfortunately, however, that's exactly what I'm up against.
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She's smart. You know this thing can kill you? I'm going to talk to the doctor to discuss the alternatives to having to wear a CPAP mask. However, like I said, my buddy had the operation and his apnea has returned. He needs to go in to the Doc "for a little trim".
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Yeah, that may help. I doubt it will cure the problem.
That's the best thing you can do. Unfortunately, it's going to take me months if not years to lose the proper amount of weight, so I'm risking my life until then w/o a solution. Even then, as I posted earlier. I had the problem when I was much thinner. So even thin people have this problem.
I'm trying to give up smoking cigarettes, as I am a casual smoker anyway. Drinking is something I should give up, but would rather not. I just have to not do it to excess and not so close to bedtime.
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I've tried that stuff. Doesn't work for me. Sure wish it would, though!
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some years back i went to pattaya and stayed l/t with a b/g ,i tryed to explain to her on my first night with her, ,that i had anapnea ,and not to worry if i stopped breathing ,as it would be no problem------well-------
im woken up at about 3-00 at night by her shaking me like crazy!
i say"whats up? is there a fire!"
she exclaims "ohh! ohh! i think you die !you no breathe i think you die!i so scare!
quite funny looking back on it!
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some years back i went to pattaya and stayed l/t with a b/g ,i tryed to explain to her on my first night with her, ,that i had anapnea ,and not to worry if i stopped breathing ,as it would be no problem------well-------
im woken up at about 3-00 at night by her shaking me like crazy!
i say"whats up? is there a fire!"
she exclaims "ohh! ohh! i think you die !you no breathe i think you die!i so scare!
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i had a fried over for a visit. he was sleeping on my pull out couch, i woke up in the middle of the night to take a leak and he was sleeping upright in the bed. scared the crap out of me!!
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"i had a fried over for a visit. he was sleeping on my pull out couch, i woke up in the middle of the night to take a leak and he was sleeping upright in the bed. scared the crap out of me!!"
hey paul,
i resemble that remark. Including the fried part! after carpooling in LA for many years (especially being on the freeway @ 4:30AM) i developed a habit of sleeping sitting up once in a while...I may have scared the occasional tg at first but they got used to it.
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Sleep Apnea
Where do I start? First, I have to say some of the stuff BMs say on this board crack me up...so funny.<p>
On a serious note, I too have sleep apnea and went through the
<b>sleep-in</b> at a clinic with all the electrodes stuck on my head. So now I wear a Cpac. Best thing I ever did for myself besides getting divorced to my 1st and 2nd wife lol. <p>I was not get a good night sleep..had to consume alot of coffee to keep me through the day. I have had two nose jobs for a deviated septem (sp), and one throat job. I really don't think I snore anymore and don't care not that I have my CPAC. I still cannot breath very good through my one nose as it almost closed again. So without the CPAC I would be dead in the water. <p>
I recently went to Bogota, Colombia for 6 months and took my CPAC along with me. Here is the deal. If you have a doctor's note saying you need this, then it is not counted as luggage. The weight you can carry now has diminished quite allot.
My girlfriend in Bogota does not mind that I wear it all and either did my execes. Once you use it you will understand how important it is and how much better your sleep is...a deep sleep and you wake up refreshed. It is like a million dollars... In addition, they claim it puts quite a few more years on you life.
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Welcome Gringo
Lost Gringo,
Welcome to the board. And I appreciate your post. It only cements in my mind what I need to do. And the sooner the better. Glad you found traveling with your CPAP doable. Which mask and base unit do you use? Is it hard to get used to wearing your mask?
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First, wearing the mask is a piece of cake. It will be like an old friend to you lol. It represents sleep so everytime you put it on your mind says "go to sleep." My outfit is older and I need to replace it soon. Mine is paid for by my medical insurance. It is called REMstar Pro. I got the pro or best CPAC because it will adjuct to the atmospheric pressure automatically no matter where you are. In Bogot, Colombia for example I was 8,500 feet above sea level. The masks are generally all the same. You will have to fitted for that. Make sure you go to a sleep clinic because they are essential in you getting a prescription. Usually your medical inurance will pay for this. Good Luck and happy breathing.
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I finally had the treatment last night. A technician came over and hooked me up to all these wires and monitoring devices. She hooked me to the CPAP machine half-way thorough the night.
I am sure I have sleep apnea now. After sleeping with the mask on for only 4 hours last night, I feel like a completely NEW man. I feel totally revitalized and 20 years younger. Whoa!
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