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12-08-2006, 22:08
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That is a very harsh view tho IMHO. Islamic terrorists use islam as an excuse. In reality Islam is religon of peace and what is the percentage that are terrorists rather than normal law abiding people. I have a few friends back home who feel as much disgust as what christians do as the way ther so called "brothers" are acting. Religous wars have happend throughout history. Does this make every religon "nazism" because of previous history. The religous side is no more than a cover up for the real issuses involved.
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I think you're right there. Religous fanatics use this as a vehicle.
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13-08-2006, 00:29
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>>Fuel surcharges to Palau in Micronesia used to be $68 per person. Now they are $208.
Taxes to Fiji used to be $48. Now they are $220.
Taxes to Thailand used to be $58. Now they are $233.
On a plane that carries 300 people minimum that is at least an additional $42,000 going to the airline just for passengers.<<
You're way off the mark there...sure the airline collects the money but the taxes go the governments and the airlines have no control over fuel prices.
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13-08-2006, 01:44
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[quote=cybernator_uk]That is a very harsh view tho IMHO. Islamic terrorists use islam as an excuse. In reality Islam is religon of peace and what is the percentage that are terrorists rather than normal law abiding people./QUOTE]
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/liv...n_page_id=1770
Religious fanatism is just as bad if its christian or muslim.
The problem today is that Islam are at the point the others were hundreds of years ago. And it still seem to move in the wrong direction.
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13-08-2006, 06:30
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Realisticaly as a holiday maker what do you need for hand luggage (your on your own so no kids to think about)
1. Passport
2. Travel documents
3. Money
Everything else is a non essetial IMHO
Even on a previous thread about i take stuff like a book and PSP. That is not needed so as long as you can have the 3 items i mentioned then you will be fine. People will start to complain but lets face it those who do really are just complete twats.
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i thought the whole point of "defeating" the terrorists is to defend our FREEDOM..
anyone read 1984 lately?
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13-08-2006, 17:05
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This is a load of friggin bull
It would be easy for one of these terrorist to get a job in maintenance of aircraft, work at the airport etc - so many option to damage
Are the x ray machines that scan hold baggage different from the ones that scan hand baggage
Its all justa publicity stunt if ur asking me - are the powers that be trying to deflect attention from elsewhere?
So many variables in all of this
What gonna happen to all the duty free shops?
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13-08-2006, 18:12
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?? explain, please
Insurance for being blowed up ?
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Sorry, it was in reference to the posters who had concerns about their belongings in checked luggage.
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13-08-2006, 18:16
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Sorry, it was in reference to the posters who had concerns about their belongings in checked luggage.
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I see, that makes more sense now 
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13-08-2006, 19:51
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Is it me or have 1 of my posts been deleted. I see nothing gets by the MODS
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13-08-2006, 19:59
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Is it me or have 1 of my posts been deleted. I see nothing gets by the MODS
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Not by me. I don't see any deleted posts by you cybernator,at least not in this thread 
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Not looking forward to this afternoon. I am taking my sister and children to Heathrow T3 where they are leaving on an Arabic flight to the UAE.
Being of Arabic descent,they have already encountered some appalling racism on the bus here.I'm wondering if there will be more at the airport. I dread to think of the chaos at the Heathrow today.One third of flights are being cancelled because security cannot cope and planes are leaving half full because passengers are being held up in queues
I'll let you know tonight how things are.
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Ive been keeping an eye on things
Im on EVA BR68 to BKK on thursday night. Eva left 45 min late last night so not to bad assuming i can get to check in and clear imigration
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13-08-2006, 22:26
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Ive been keeping an eye on things
Im on EVA BR68 to BKK on thursday night. Eva left 45 min late last night so not to bad assuming i can get to check in and clear imigration
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One warning for you guys, something which I experienced this weekend. You cannot trust i.e. BA's website for good information on departures. Even if it looks good this minutes, it can change in a fraction of a second to the worse. The airlines have not much influences about how things are handled at the moment. I've been told that planes have been boarded and been on their way to the runway already, just to be called back by the homelands office.
Be prepared for surprises. I thought I give it a try, afterwards, it's not worth it. If you don't have to fly, try to delay a week or two.
And if it's for holiday only, your boss might understand the situation all to well and you can discuss a weeks delay.
My company has strongly advised only to fly for urgent, business critical occasions.
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One warning for you guys, something which I experienced this weekend. You cannot trust i.e. BA's website for good information on departures. Even if it looks good this minutes, it can change in a fraction of a second to the worse. The airlines have not much influences about how things are handled at the moment. I've been told that planes have been boarded and been on their way to the runway already, just to be called back by the homelands office.
Be prepared for surprises. I thought I give it a try, afterwards, it's not worth it. If you don't have to fly, try to delay a week or two.
And if it's for holiday only, your boss might understand the situation all to well and you can discuss a weeks delay.
My company has strongly advised only to fly for urgent, business critical occasions.
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BR = EVA Air
Ive been looking on their website they give actual time of departures and arrivals
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BR = EVA Air
Ive been looking on their website they give actual time of departures and arrivals
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Yes, that's what I ment to say. I checked their websites and all looks okay. Then you go to the airport and all is a big mess. The airlines don't have much input on departure & arrival, believe me, I've been there, done it and I talked to the airline staff, who actually told me this.
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The airlines don't have much input on departure & arrival, believe me, I've been there, done it and I talked to the airline staff, who actually told me this.
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Even when ops are normal, the airlines dont have control over this as well.
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Not looking forward to this afternoon. I am taking my sister and children to Heathrow T3 where they are leaving on an Arabic flight to the UAE.
Being of Arabic descent,they have already encountered some appalling racism on the bus here.I'm wondering if there will be more at the airport. I dread to think of the chaos at the Heathrow today.One third of flights are being cancelled because security cannot cope and planes are leaving half full because passengers are being held up in queues
I'll let you know tonight how things are.
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An update on Heathrow........... its absolute chaos around there. Huge queues of traffic to enter the airport, no trolleys,and a queue of passengers waiting to get into departures.
Sisters flight was 45mins late leaving which was good.
Im so glad Im not travelling shortly from the UK
If you are, allow at least another couple of hours
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Even when ops are normal, the airlines dont have control over this as well.
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Correct. Even if ops are normal, nothing you see on their websites is even close to an insurance that you take off on time.
So, please bare that in mind, especially in those difficult times.
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Im so glad Im not travelling shortly from the UK
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Thanks Dawsey, I was waiting for your update today. I think your sister has been quite lucky to get away with only 45 min. delay.
Myself cancelled my flight to the US eastcoast next week, 21st of August. Instead I try to repeat my lost flight this weekend to the Netherlands. The last thing I'm interested in is testing a flight to the land of the free 
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Dawsey must have just missed you by a couple of hours .....
Just got in from BKK-LHR, lots of extra security at BKK for the London flight and many people seemingly unaware of the new restrictions.
The were around 15 extra staff at the gate doing security check/bag searches.
Checks comprised a pat down, shoes off check and then complete search of hand luggage - bottles of water, etc being taken away. Other liquids, contact lense solutions and the like were being taken off people and being bagged up, then put in a communal box for return at the other end.
I had a few books and a mobile and this was deemed ok so didn't need to go through bag check. Flight was around 30-40 mins late leaving.
No baggage was being through checked via heathrow so all passengers with connecting flights there had to pick-up bags and check them in again for connecting flights.
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Crazy stuff
This absolutely bizzare, returning because a phone rang, or maybe it was an alarm going off. Copied from another aviation forum
Not using a phone - simply a phone ringing and no one wanted to own up. It was implied that the phone was in the cabin but may well have been in the hold. If so then it would the problem already anticipated elsewhere in the forums - that people will forget to turn off the phone before shoving it in the hold bag.
BBC has the story. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/4789169.stm
A British Airways flight from Heathrow to New York has been turned back after a mobile phone was heard ringing at the back of the plane. No-one on board the plane admitted owning the phone, banned under current security restrictions, so flight BA179 returned to the London airport.
The scare came as the Department for Transport downgraded the UK terror threat from critical to severe.
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This is a load of friggin bull
What gonna happen to all the duty free shops?
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I would suggest that you would be able to buy duty free entering a country rather than leaving it...
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M&M…I agree…Duty free shopping will now be picked up at the arrival airport rather then at departure. I’m sure some enterprising company will be able to figure this out. Just think the airlines won’t have to lug those extra pounds around.
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>>Fuel surcharges to Palau in Micronesia used to be $68 per person. Now they are $208.
Taxes to Fiji used to be $48. Now they are $220.
Taxes to Thailand used to be $58. Now they are $233.
On a plane that carries 300 people minimum that is at least an additional $42,000 going to the airline just for passengers.<<
You're way off the mark there...sure the airline collects the money but the taxes go the governments and the airlines have no control over fuel prices.
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Sorry, but I know what I am talking about.
Some airlines put the fuel surcharges in the fare, some put it in the taxes.
I run airline tickets all day and have lots of wholesale contracts with the airlines and know what are fuel surcharges and what are taxes because I have to break them down into their seperate parts so that I can ticket the record.
And the airline says and admits that they are fuel surcharges. we get notices from the airlines saying that the taxes will increase due to fuel surcharges.
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