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10-10-2007, 23:45
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If you have a paper ticket to travel by air, you may want to hold on to it – paper tickets may well become a collector’s item. IATA recently announced that all the major airlines will stop issuing paper tickets, effective next summer. Most airlines are already almost entirely electronic – American for example, now estimates that around 98% of its tickets are "e-tickets".
Electronic ticketing is much less expensive for an airline – on average, an electronic ticket costs less than $1 to generate, as opposed to between $10 to $17 for each paper ticket printed. In addition to being less expensive, electronic tickets also make it easier and quicker for the airlines to measure revenue and balance the books. In the past, entire bundles of paper tickets had to be packaged, counted and sent to a processing facility where the data was collected.
Most passengers prefer e-tickets as well – they don’t have to worry about losing their ticket. If you have a paper ticket, airlines generally charge you a fee to replace it or even make you buy a completely new replacement ticket. If you lose the copy of your faxed or e-mailed electronic ticket, the airline will replace it for you – although as the airlines now charge for just about everything, there may be a small charge for that.
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11-10-2007, 00:10
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If you have a paper ticket to travel by air, you may want to hold on to it – paper tickets may well become a collector’s item. IATA recently announced that all the major airlines will stop issuing paper tickets, effective next summer. Most airlines are already almost entirely electronic – American for example, now estimates that around 98% of its tickets are "e-tickets".
Electronic ticketing is much less expensive for an airline – on average, an electronic ticket costs less than $1 to generate, as opposed to between $10 to $17 for each paper ticket printed. In addition to being less expensive, electronic tickets also make it easier and quicker for the airlines to measure revenue and balance the books. In the past, entire bundles of paper tickets had to be packaged, counted and sent to a processing facility where the data was collected.
Most passengers prefer e-tickets as well – they don’t have to worry about losing their ticket. If you have a paper ticket, airlines generally charge you a fee to replace it or even make you buy a completely new replacement ticket. If you lose the copy of your faxed or e-mailed electronic ticket, the airline will replace it for you – although as the airlines now charge for just about everything, there may be a small charge for that.
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If you get the airline to e-mail it to you and you then lose the E ticket you can go to any internet shop and just print a copy from your e-mail, cost around 10baht to print a copy.
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11-10-2007, 00:59
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as long as you haven't deleted it, once printed.
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11-10-2007, 01:11
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I hate paper tickets. On my last trip to LOS I flew Aeroflot on paper ticket. Made a change to KLM and had to stop over at the Delta (original issuer) office in Silom to have it changed. Took an extra 3 hours. A paper ticket could have been handled over the phone.
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11-10-2007, 01:13
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as long as you haven't deleted it, once printed.
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Shouldn't matter. You do not need a copy of the ticket. Just go and check in and get your boarding pass. I hardly ever print out any travel documents (hence paperless).
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11-10-2007, 01:17
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Shouldn't matter. You do not need a copy of the ticket. Just go and check in and get your boarding pass. I hardly ever print out any travel documents (hence paperless).
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When I get an e-ticket, the airline says I MUST  produce it at checkin along with my passport.
Have I misunderstood you Lars?
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11-10-2007, 01:23
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When I get an e-ticket, the airline says I MUST  produce it at checkin along with my passport.
Have I misunderstood you Lars?
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Same with me, they always insisted on seeing mine!
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11-10-2007, 01:30
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When I get an e-ticket, the airline says I MUST  produce it at checkin along with my passport.
Have I misunderstood you Lars?
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I take over 100 flights a year. I have never been asked for a printout (or at least I have been required to produce it). I have on occasions been asked for the credit card used for the purchase. Even when I go through the US government security checks in foreign airports prior to check in I tell them I do not have a copy of my ticket as it is electronic.
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11-10-2007, 01:45
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If you get the airline to e-mail it to you and you then lose the E ticket you can go to any internet shop and just print a copy from your e-mail, cost around 10baht to print a copy.
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:-) The nice thing about e-ticket is that you can't lose them ...
I never or rarely print out itineraries and just show up with my passport.
Believe it or not, there are airlines which are not aware of this new technology. I try to avoid Saudi Airlines as much as possible, they don't do e-tickets, always have to wait for a curier to deliver the papers to the office.
Emirates still beats them all for me. I was flying out to the UK with a splinter new 777 this week. They have upgraded their entertainment system and now have little wide-screens, look really great. And of cause a very nice selection and great variation of air hostesses 
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I take over 100 flights a year. I have never been asked for a printout (or at least I have been required to produce it). I have on occasions been asked for the credit card used for the purchase. Even when I go through the US government security checks in foreign airports prior to check in I tell them I do not have a copy of my ticket as it is electronic.
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Thanks for that, but I'll carry on printing out the e-mail and taking it with me to the airport. Knowing my luck the checkin girl will have PMT and refuse me boarding 
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Literally just got my e-ticket from Thai for my trip to LOS after they called me for my email. I carry it so I don't have to deal with any language barriers at the ticketing desk....my mumble and Boton accent vs. what ever (if any) verbal English limitations they may have. It is more that I can't understand what they are saying to me as I can't get through accents sometimes.
Just need to wait 6 months now!
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Iv'e turned up at the airport without my e-ticket usually on the return leg and just shown my passport and had no bother.
Another good thing about e-tickets is that with a lot of airlines now you are able to book in online the day before, I have even done this and not printed out my boarding pass because they usually print you out another anyway.
When they ask I just say I booked in on my laptop and never had a printer with me.
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11-10-2007, 04:11
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Best to have some sort of official, printed receipt, itinerary, internet boarding pass etc when showing up at the airport with an e-ticket. Even just something printed off the internet... I traveled through the Manila airport last week and they require some form of travel document to just get into the departures area. The whole e-ticket, internet boarding pass routine is getting pretty seamless with the airlines, but the airports and security officials are lagging behind.
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Best to have some sort of official, printed receipt, itinerary, internet boarding pass etc when showing up at the airport with an e-ticket. Even just something printed off the internet... I traveled through the Manila airport last week and they require some form of travel document to just get into the departures area. The whole e-ticket, internet boarding pass routine is getting pretty seamless with the airlines, but the airports and security officials are lagging behind.
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About a year ago I flew out of Hi Chi Minh City. Security screened everyone for paperwork before entering even the ticketing area. I told them I had an electronic ticket and no paperwork. He looked at my passport and I was in.
Printing out an itinerary certainly can't hurt, I just cannot be bothered. I guess that if worst comes to worst I can always turn on my computer and show my email.
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I tried showing the airport security people in MNL my travel documents on my Blackberry and they would have none of that. They wanted a paper document of some sort.
Another problem that I have had while traveling with e-tickets involves proof of exit from a country that I am visiting. Some countries require, upon arrival, proof of intention and means to exit. Twice recently, I have been traveling into and out of a country by e-tickets on two different airlines. Once was with Thai Air from Shanghai to Bangkok and another from Singapore to Manila on Singapore Airlines. Both times they wanted proof of intention and means to exit before they would give be a boarding pass to my destination. E-ticket number or record locator was insufficient proof, as was viewing my travel documents on my Blackberry. They wanted something in print because they said that they would be held liable if I was asked for proof of exit, by Customs in my destination city, and could not provide it.
Until airports come up to speed with e-tickets, and airlines arrange to consistantly exchange e-ticket information, I think air travelers are exposing themselve to potential delays, denied boarding etc by not having some physical form of travel documents in their posession for international travel. In the case of my SIN to MNL flight, I did not have time to get to a business center and print out my documents so I missed my flight that day and had to rebook for the next morning. Thankfully, in the case of the PVG to BKK flight, I did have time to get my documents printed and made it to Phuket for my precious holiday!
My advice: Until e-ticketing matures a little more, print and carry travel documents, even for e-tickets...
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Because of the current postal strike here in the UK I rang the flight booking office and asked how they will send my tickets now the postal system is fubar!!
They said that all tickets from know on will be e-tickets, so it looks like as well as getting round the current problem this is the way to go from now on.
In the past all my tickets have been posted; I don't think the post office have done themselves any favours!!!
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