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27-01-2008, 13:05
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Hmmmm that's a hard one......... Massage... extras...... LT..... maybe Annie's!!!!!!!!! 
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27-01-2008, 15:39
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Try also the Eden Club. Eden Club in Bangkok, Thailand
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28-01-2008, 13:41
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Cashiers are up for it? - and I thought they were all good girls 555555555555555555. Bang go a few pairs of RTG.
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Thanks for the info guys... this is probably a stupid question but, do I just ask the cashier if she will go with me or should I be a little more reserved and respectfull and ask one of them to have coffee or dinner with me.. what do you guys think?
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29-01-2008, 05:50
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Hmmmmmm....... Maybe u have dyslection, but this whole treat is about where u can get that. U can book in advance, see there website Cheers, Raval
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29-01-2008, 05:56
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If u go to Annies for a massage...... u pick a girl from the fishbowl, pay 1500 thb and go with her to a private room for your massage. From there everything will go smoothly. No worries. No coffeee, no dinner. After 2 hours u will go out very satisfied. I recomment nr 12. If u think service was good... give the girl a tip. Cheers, Raval
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29-01-2008, 15:56
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Use a common sense approach. Have a drink at the bar, relax, and then tell the cashier that you find her very attractive and want to know if she would be interested in having a good time with you. This way you compliment her and convey your intent at the same time.
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01-02-2008, 17:14
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02-02-2008, 03:21
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just 300 Baht per massage?? sounds a bit less for 1500 what you pay!
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When I was there at christmas a regular walks in and none of the girls seemed very eager to go with him. The reason for that I was told was that he rarely gave a tip, only if he was very happy with the service would he give 100 baht. The girls expect a good tip though!! Once a girl gave me a fantastic service and I gave her a thousand. She looks at me and say: thanks but can you give 500 more??  I was a bit dumbfounded by that one......
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02-02-2008, 03:59
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Mr. Mouse30, If The service is not good....whether it is in a bar, restaurant or massage parlour, I don't give a tip. Because in my opinion you give a tip if you are happy about the good service. By giving a tip "no discussion" you create situations like in Mexico where the waiters wont let you leave the room before you tip them. Cheers, Raval
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02-02-2008, 05:49
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goorie thailand is a big place you didn't say where you're going, that might help with your question, there are plenty of mature women around for sure, if you have money LT is no problem. no money no honey.
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02-02-2008, 09:14
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Sorry all, I should have given my destination.
BKK for two nights then Pattaya for five. although this is not a fixed itinerary. Is 5 days in Pattaya too many? The people on this forum give so much good advise and information to and for us newbies, (even the term newbies was new to me before I joined the forum). I have 3 Fantasies I hope can be forefilled. At the moment they will remain a mystery to the BM's. but will reveal all in a report after I return from LOS in March. From reading the many posts in PHUKET-INFO those fantasies of mine may come true in Thailand. Annie's seem to be the establishment I should be going to. Thank you for the advice on #12 RAVAL, I will check her out when I get to BKK in Feb. I don't mind telling you all that I'm excited about going to LOS, but a little apprehensive about being in a foreign land. It's my first trip away from Australia. However this forum and other links from it has given me a great depth of research into Thailand, its people, customs and nightlife, "WOW, the nightlife". I had in the past, just a general idea of what the night life was like in Thailand from friends who have there, but after some background research from the website Bangkok Tonight BTW great links there, and links from this forum, I am more informed that I otherwise would have been. BTW, is $1,000 AUD enought for two weeks? Thanks to you all for the past helpful comments.
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02-02-2008, 09:30
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You will love LOS! I find that the more I read on this board and others the better off I am while in LOS. I still have much to learn also.
I have not been to Pattaya(until this April), but I read on the boards that 5 days will not be too much. Others on this board are better to speak to that with actual experience there. I could not tell you about budget, because I feel like I spend like a drunken sailor at times while in LOS. Just trying to save as much as possible so I am not on much of a budget with in reason. Have fun on your trip!
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02-02-2008, 18:04
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Mouse30 You are so "spot on" about giving a tip. We here in the West are far wealthier than the girls and women of Thailand. I would not hesitate to give a largish tip every time for the service rendered.
Correct me anyone if I'm wrong here, but is it really true that the girls just come up to you and ask if you would like to go with them, that's if they like you? When it comes to my looks, While I'm not Frankenstien, I'm no Elvis either in the good look stakes. Will this be a problem for me? or will my measley amount of cash take care of my desires. Hey I must say I would prefer to give my money to a poor Asian woman for good service so she can support her family back home than to a western girlie here in Australia, I'm sure everyone here understands what I mean, after all we are all adult here aren't we!!! As I continue to state... the information from most of the poster's here is a gold mine of info. PHUKE-INFO has got to be one of the coolest forums of it's kind....keep up the good postings everyone.
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02-02-2008, 20:38
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In brief though, the area around Sukhumvit Soi 4 (street 4) is famous for it's night life. Go to Annie's first to get a taste of what is on offer. If you check their web page (AnniesBangkok) you can see that there is a LT take-out service. Not all the girls are to my taste by any means, but there are some very sweet young and less-than-young ladies there. Outside Nana Hotel the girls will certainly approach you if you smile at them first. They are not doing this because they think you are a hansome man and have fallen in love at first sight. It is business, and frankly your looks do not matter. Negotiate a price and off you go! Having said that it's business, please remember that they are people too, from very poor backgrounds. You don't need to overpay, but do treat them kindly and you will be amply rewarded! Near Nana Hotel is the Nana Entertainment Plaza (NEP). You can't miss it. It comes alive at night with go-go bars. The girls will go with you after paying a bar-fine to the bar (500 - 1000 Bht) and agreeing a payment. They prefer ST, and I can't quote the current rates (1000 - 2000 Bht ST?). They are more beautiful, but not necessarily more fun in bed (in fact probably quite the opposite). Finally (and this is by no means finally) there is the BierGarden in Soi 7, where freelancers hang out, waiting to be approached by yourself. Buy them a drink (or not), agree a price for ST or LT, and off you go again. There is much much more to BKK than this, but that could keep you busy for a few weeks. I'll be in BKK myself from Feb 21 -24 if you fancy a beer.
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03-02-2008, 18:27
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I'm all for tipping and help out whenever I can. After all, as was already said, these people are often from poor backgrounds and trying to make a living. Having said that, I find Annie's policy of paying 300B to their girls out of a 1,500B fee is outrageous. What is the girls cut at Edens?
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03-02-2008, 21:21
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All that shines is not gold, on the other hand every cloud has a silver lining. Strange that this question arrived on all forums all on the same day almost same time all from people that have similar forum names and that have also answered with similar alternate names with the same replies that strangely enough semi advertising another venue, all of this only on Annie’s threads. I will cut and paste my answers on these posts that I left on the other forums. If you do not believe this claim as in the way it has been put on all forums all at once email me and I will give you all the links. My answer from other forums The amount we pay our staff I feel should not be public domain but as it has been brought up on this forum already 3 times in varying different ways and on many other forums all at the same time and in variant ways of asking and styles I will answer the same way as I did then, both on this forum and others. There are multiple levels of payment, this is due to different venues, positions, experience and length of service. Please remember hard cash is not the only benefit for working for Annie’s, their is subsidized food and drink, fully airconed and clean free accommodation. Free laundering services, linen, towels, monthly cash bonuses based on service and customer reports and a gold bonus once a month plus the big once a year gold bonus for long term servers. Contrary to popular belief our ladies do not pay for there own equipment. We used to buy the products for the ladies but then a few months into doing this the ladies starting saying, “I want this brand of soap not that one”, or “ I want this mouth wash as I do not like the one you are buying etc etc” We thought about adding extra money in to salaries even the staff bringing in there purchase receipts and we pay them back but all as you can imagine ended up with massive problems and inconsistencies, so we increased by a % the total amount the ladies get per customer to cover this and we asked them to buy there own, this keeps the ladies happy and the head aches away. A big thing that we pride our selves on is we are a legal parlor, part of holding these papers means our ladies are not freelancers that walk in and walk out and we make sure there taxes are paid and as with any other employed Thai person if we make our ladies redundant they get a payout compared to length of service and position. Believe me our ladies know the payment level of other places and we have ladies working for us that have come from other places that pay allot less and also allot more. We even have a folder behind the bar that our ladies can look at that have the payment rates of all the local places to us if they did not already know. After this spate of posting we had a meeting and we asked about the payment level and we said we are more than willing to increase the overall charge changing from 1500bt to 2000bt and 90% of the increase in money would go to them. The overall answer was no, the girls said if the price goes up even though we would still be the best value for money legal parlor in the area the high price point would mean the amount of customers that would come in would go down and in total there money would go down. If we where so bad compared to other places in this area of business then why do we have long term staff members?, some staying for over 10 years All our staff come from word of mouth, staff speaking to people they know explaining the benefits of working for us. If it was so bad and not a good arrangement we would have no staff, there are hundreds of places even on our soi that offer jobs of this nature, many fighting for staff, we do not. Back to this forum You may ask any of the posters on this forum that visit us regularly, we are all one big happy supportive family here and in the case of this question our staff if you add all the positives together which I have added above and the other benefits not added here working for the Annie’s group our staff do very very well and are very well protected and taken care of. I am asking the readers of this forum and others please pay close attention and look at what is being written about certain venues in Bangkok. Strange how all and I mean all are bad but just 2 or 3 places are not and those 2 or 3 are connected together. Also I only post under my name and it is my personnel name with our business name on it, I see no reason for hidden names and profiles. I am a professional and I will not and have not done this unlike others. Attached are some pictures of our NEW or returning staff that have left and come back to Annie’s you know because we are such low payers and a bad place to work, all under 23 years and all of them are a*** girls. Also many many more on our site. Just thought our staff level has in the last year from 25 to 70 all because we are low payers and its not good to work here.  P.S Our rooms have been 60% refurbished now and should be 100% finished in about 3 weeks. Also our new purpose built aricon system is 100% finished, our purpose built water heating system is also 100% finished. We have started to refurbish the bar area but this takes time. Finally if you want to know the differences between legal and illegal parlors and venues please email me direct and I will give you a full description. Please play safe in Thailand. Legal is the way to go. Happy new year. The Aey team. 
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I'm a great fan of Annie's and look forward to seeing you again soon (as you know). I have only responded to what other's have written, and tried to give an objective answer. I have known a few girls working there, and they are all very positive about their working environment. As you say, there is more to the job than just the immediate money. Anyway, good luck with the business. It meets a need and in my opinion does it well. It was the first place I visited in BKK and I have som great memories, in particular of one young lady...
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04-02-2008, 07:00
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