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LivinLOS · #1 21-10-2007, 12:12

Heres a fairly long but pretty good intro to the new OS..

They even found a Steve Jobs clone and put him in a black T shirt..

I havent been a fan of the Mac really.. Tho it does look simple and smooth, some of the features in this OS look desirable and the simplicity is appealing, also the iPhone like browsing is funny, first the phone now the desktop.

Apple - Mac OS X Leopard - Guided Tour - Medium

I will see if this can be hacked to run on open hardware and give it a play... Would love to see unix devs work on ther desktop and UI experience to do what apple has done.

ATMwalking · #2 21-10-2007, 20:59

Mine will be delivered on the 26th.

There has been a lot of testing and a lot of vendors have already got thier apps 10.5 ready.

I think people gave up trying to hack the os a while ago. Apple really locked that down during the early testing of the intel-based binaries. I think the lock is actually tied to the CPU somehow. Meaning it has to be a made-for-apple intel cpu.

BTW, if you want to run XP under OS X, I recommend VMWARE Fusion. I run XP like a Mac OS X application and don't even notice it running. Really no drain on the system (running a dual core 2 cpu with 2 gigs ram).

the juggler · #3 21-10-2007, 21:55

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Originally Posted by ATMwalking

Mine will be delivered on the 26th.

There has been a lot of testing and a lot of vendors have already got thier apps 10.5 ready.

I think people gave up trying to hack the os a while ago. Apple really locked that down during the early testing of the intel-based binaries. I think the lock is actually tied to the CPU somehow. Meaning it has to be a made-for-apple intel cpu.

BTW, if you want to run XP under OS X, I recommend VMWARE Fusion. I run XP like a Mac OS X application and don't even notice it running. Really no drain on the system (running a dual core 2 cpu with 2 gigs ram).

Where did you order Leopard? Online or in a shop on Phuket?
Is there a chance to use a copy of the OS or is there a online registration like Vista? The New Mac OS is definitely a must have for every Apple User!!! And I am sure it's not the same nightmare like MS upgrades or major releases.

LivinLOS · #4 22-10-2007, 08:09

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Originally Posted by ATMwalking

Mine will be delivered on the 26th.

There has been a lot of testing and a lot of vendors have already got thier apps 10.5 ready.

I think people gave up trying to hack the os a while ago. Apple really locked that down during the early testing of the intel-based binaries. I think the lock is actually tied to the CPU somehow. Meaning it has to be a made-for-apple intel cpu.

BTW, if you want to run XP under OS X, I recommend VMWARE Fusion. I run XP like a Mac OS X application and don't even notice it running. Really no drain on the system (running a dual core 2 cpu with 2 gigs ram).

I refuse to get tied into the apple hardware game.. And to be honest playing with mates macbook pros has really not made me an apple convert, maybe its the feeling of going with what you know but I disliked the very simplicity that apple provides (I know that sounds backwards but its true) plus its all those little things, backing up my SE phones contacts to PC, running apps that dont exist for apple (yes I know about VMWare), also the piracy element where any app I need is a torrent away. All that said this vid does look appealing and I would like to spend a few days to really feel how usable it is or isnt.

All that said I am not overly impressed with VISTA considering the time and wait (and price) I had a vista ultimate on this box and it was too much of a hog.. I will be rebuilding my media PC and putting my media PC bits into my desktop (I need more processor power for hidef h264 on that one) so that my main desk is vista ready.. Would like to have a Vista / XP / Kubuntu / OS X quad boot and see what gets used.

We should see KDE4 this year, if linux people put a real effort into the UI they could make a unix stable and yet attractive and working UI.. Apple have done it.. They (linux geeks) always seem so close yet never quite get it for a desktop OS. Even playing with the new windowblinds (with alpha transparency) on XP is quite the visual upgrade, really not missing the Vista boot at all right now.

ATMwalking · #5 22-10-2007, 21:24

@juggleer
getting mine from abroad

@lil
on the surface Mac OS is simple. that is a good thing. stuff like syncing your SE is built in. you can do it right over bluetoth.

Underneath you need to remember it is Unix. Most of the linux heads have moved over to mac. most guys are just running linux as servers now.

On pirate stuff...I buy my software. especially when apple has reasonable things like a 5 license family pack for $200 on their office suite. there is less piracy because prices are reasonable and there is a lot of freeware. then for the odd thing you just run XP in a window and share folders between the OSs.

The whole tied into hardware thing doesn't really make sense to me. especially concerning laptops. I'm less tied in with apple hardware. I can run any os.

ATMwalking · #6 25-10-2007, 21:32

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Apple has seeded the usual technology reviewers with early copies of Mac OS X Leopard for review. The reviews were published tonight. Overall, Leopard is described to be a solid upgrade with only minor bugs encountered in the testing by the reviewers. David Pogue specifically states that he was using the final version of Leopard for a week prior to the review. Compatibility with existing applications is also described as good, and upgrades from existing Tiger installs appeared to go smoothly.

NYTimes - David Pogue
• "The most serious misstep in Leopard is its new see-through menus. .... Often, Apple’s snazzy graphics are justifiable because they make the Mac more fun to use. In this case, though, nothing is gained, and much is lost."
• "Otherwise, the only cause for pause is the usual minor set of 1.0 bugs, which Apple generally fixes with software updates after a major release."
• "Leopard is powerful, polished and carefully conceived. Happy surprises, and very few disappointments, lie around every corner."

Wall Street Journal - Walt Mossberg
• "I did notice a few drawbacks, but they were minor."
• "In fact, every piece of software and hardware I tried on two Leopard-equipped Macs -- a loaned laptop from Apple and my own upgraded iMac -- worked fine, exhibiting none of the compatibility problems that continue to plague Vista."
• "Leopard isn't a must-have for current Mac owners, but it adds a lot of value."

USA Today - Edward Baig
• "I migrated to Leopard from the last OS X version, Tiger, without pain on a MacBook laptop and my own iMac desktop"

Links to quoted articles in original post.
Mac Rumors: Mac OS X Leopard Reviews: NY Times, Wall Street Journal, USA Today

Also a good more techie review here:
Ahead of the Curve | Tom Yager | InfoWorld | Apple OS X Leopard: A beautiful upgrade | October 17, 2007 03:00 AM | By Tom Yager

ATMwalking · #7 27-10-2007, 04:37

Smooth upgrade. Took about 60 minutes. Everything worked the same as before.

Nothing hugely different or better. But it is a bit more slick over all.

Have to play with it more.

Nice to have not need to have.

Coolhand · #8 27-10-2007, 06:21

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Originally Posted by ATMwalking

Nice to have not need to have.

Is it worth it? How much did it cost, if you don't mind? Hits the stores in Hong Kong this weekend.

ATMwalking · #9 27-10-2007, 20:36

Single license is $129 USD/CDN.

Too soon to say if it is worth it. But as more apps introduce leopard features, it will be worth it.