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Old 25-01-2006, 18:27
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just my thoughts and hope I haven't offended anyone.

I'm just pleased to know there is somebody out there taking note of our concerns and taking the time to respond to them.
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Old 26-01-2006, 00:47
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Heard of owners simply shaking the hands of customers having problems, advice during the last crackdown was to always have your own bin in front of you (in your own bar) and always sit on the outside of the bar space not inside the bar space..

The definition of work here technically includes driving your own car, painting your own house, walking your own dog..



I meant a job as bar staff in the bar where the owner cant even pass a beer.. This is what I have been trying to tell all along.. These guys (presumably) have a B visa (through owning the company of the bar) but cannot get a work permit for that activity..


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In general terms i agree with you

but my general advice is take the time to study the terms of your let and the licence for the bar

If you take the original licence for Love Bar as an example, it has allocated seating inside. This is clearly designated in the plan for the bar, which forms an integral part of the licence, so ergo an owner or customer can sit or stand inside the bar without problem.

The terms of the lease should stipulate what requires to be maintained and who is respobsible for enuring the terms of the let are adhered to and of course if you have a thai company then as a direcor you have the right (without) work permit to oversee and direct your business. Just make sure you are meeting all you other statutory obligations!!!!!

If the bar is in ur GF name i.e. the licence and the lease then ur up a gum tree, make sure you're a paying customer because the business aint yours, on paper anyway

If the business is yours:

keep a copy of the:

full licence for the bar
your memorandum and articles of association and ur director forms and sharholding documentation

Then if u want u have the ammunition to argue your case

But in general

Dont serve behind the bar or be cashier
Better to sit on the outside if ur a worrier

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ps ive broken all these rules
pps some soi's seem to have more problems than other when it comes to this type of thing
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Dont worry you have not and will not offend anyone..

I am 100% in agreement with those stated aims.. Its the fact of seeing farang volunteers dropping into gogo's in uniform (why ??) and helping with WP checks.. Niether of those activities sits well with me.. Just dont see how thats helping tourists.
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I didn't join in with this thread at the start , as my initial posts brought this subject to everyones attention. I hoped that either Dingo's or bman would read the views of BMs and post a reply , we now have an answer from Dingo's. ( Thanks for taking the time to chat when I was in your bar . ).

Hopefully , this was a one-off experience and the Volunteers will continue doing "their" job , assisting tourists , and that any WP/breaches of law will be dealt with by the proper authorities.
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Can we just review which Beer Bar Soi's around Bangla are farang owned or leased and then try to relate this back to the soi's which always seem to be the worst for getting checks and see if there is a pattern?

Soi Tiger
Soi Lion
Soi Sea Dragom
Soi Eric
Soi Crocodile
Soi Gonzo
Soi Viking
Soi Sukomvit (Moodies)
Soi on Beach Road
Soi Sunset
Any others?

Example
In my time there there was very little activity in terms of checks in Soi Tiger but in comparison top of the hit list was always Soi Eric

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