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I visited phuket for the first time on 3/2006 and fell in love with the place instantly. took me about 5 minutes to decide to move here.
Went back home, sold everything i had and moved here on 11/2006.
so far life here is GREAT. i went back for a short visit recently and i couldn't wait to come back here.
Life couldn't be better.
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If you are going to do it and can 'realistically' do it, then go for it.
I've said it before, I watched my Dad reach retirement, looking forward to everything he could now enjoy on a day to day basis and wham, he gets hit by a heart attack three days after getting the golden watch.
I'm happiest here, four years short of the big 'Five-O' and as you say, life is good.
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If you are going to do it and can 'realistically' do it, then go for it.
I've said it before, I watched my Dad reach retirement, looking forward to everything he could now enjoy on a day to day basis and wham, he gets hit by a heart attack three days after getting the golden watch.
I'm happiest here, four years short of the big 'Five-O' and as you say, life is good.
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You live no where near Hawaii Dad!
But you do wear the Hawaii 5 0 shirts........ 
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Just make sure you have enough money.
Not like that poor dutch bugger in Pattaya who commited suicide recently. He retired twenty years ago at the age of forty and ran out of money. Ended it with a plastic bag and a hose hooked up to a gas cylinder.
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Just make sure you have enough money.
Not like that poor dutch bugger in Pattaya who commited suicide recently. He retired twenty years ago at the age of forty and ran out of money. Ended it with a plastic bag and a hose hooked up to a gas cylinder.
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Yep, thanks for that Sir Burr!
I've just got rid of all my plastic bags, I haven't got a hose and my gas bottle is almost empty!
Any links to the news item? Was it all money related? He was in good health? Did the Police say he didn't have funds?
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Yep, thanks for that Sir Burr!
I've just got rid of all my plastic bags, I haven't got a hose and my gas bottle is almost empty!
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He could not afford the gas bill!!
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Disturbing story Bernie.
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Just my opinion but suicide at 60 in Pattaya after retiring at 40 because he'd run out of money whilst living there for 20 years!
Just me but, people have far less of an innings than that, work all hours and have to live in Rochdale!
Was he a Billy No Mates, No State Pension in Holland? No Kids he could have held his hand out to!
Finding it hard to sympathise, but then again, that's just me!
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guess everything in life is a choice....even premature death if you've had enough
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guess everything in life is a choice....even premature death if you've had enough
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Agree entirely Nels, just find it hard to believe, given the scenario, that he took his life because he ran out of money! That's just me!
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Agree entirely Nels, just find it hard to believe, given the scenario, that he took his life because he ran out of money! That's just me!
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wouldn't offer it up as a viable alternative myself D......but LOS does attract all kinds....and truth is stranger than fiction sometimes.....
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Talkin about the guy in Pats giving it a go for 20 years then cashin it all in has me thinking, D you bring up a good point, can't say this guy should have been writting self help books but lets do the math, how many people get 20 years of doing what they want? and this guy probably had one hell of a run of things.
Choices, we can work till were 60+ and try and pickup 20 good years after that...yeah right....don't think so, sure you might get 20 years, but more often than not your gonna be trying to fight off something during that time...cancer, liver yada yada..so while I don't recomend adding doing yourself in as an retirement plan, I think I have enjoyed too many sinful pleasures in this life and abused myself far to much to expect a long and happy retirement if I waited till I was 60+.
I do agree with going ahead and living life...do it now and enjoy the moments...I'm not about to wait until I'm dead to start living.
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Yep, thanks for that Sir Burr!
I've just got rid of all my plastic bags, I haven't got a hose and my gas bottle is almost empty!
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Talkin about the guy in Pats giving it a go for 20 years then cashin it all in has me thinking, D you bring up a good point, can't say this guy should have been writting self help books but lets do the math, how many people get 20 years of doing what they want? and this guy probably had one hell of a run of things.
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just reading he seems like one of those hanger on ex-pats that was probably scrimping the whole 20 years
rather be in farangland earning
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just reading he seems like one of those hanger on ex-pats that was probably scrimping the whole 20 years
rather be in farangland earning
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But isnt that the whole point..
Some guys are saying better to give it a try.. And how he managed a good run anyway..
Me I wouldnt handle being here without a safety net / cash buffer.. Not when I know one would be there for me if I went back where I could earn.
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Talkin about the guy in Pats giving it a go for 20 years then cashin it all in has me thinking, D you bring up a good point, can't say this guy should have been writting self help books but lets do the math, how many people get 20 years of doing what they want? and this guy probably had one hell of a run of things.
Choices, we can work till were 60+ and try and pickup 20 good years after that...yeah right....don't think so, sure you might get 20 years, but more often than not your gonna be trying to fight off something during that time...cancer, liver yada yada..so while I don't recomend adding doing yourself in as an retirement plan, I think I have enjoyed too many sinful pleasures in this life and abused myself far to much to expect a long and happy retirement if I waited till I was 60+.
I do agree with going ahead and living life...do it now and enjoy the moments...I'm not about to wait until I'm dead to start living.
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For a singly guy with no kids the motivation of living past 65 might not be that great. Especially if you are working a job that doesn't fulfill you and you're just not happy with your current life. What do you really have to look forward to? No grandchildren to bounce on your knee. Lonely Holidays. So if your 40 - 50 yrs old and you know you have enough saved for 15 - 20 yrs you may start thinking about mortality in a different way.
The idea of living in Thailand while your still young enough to indulge in all the earthly pleasures might be too strong to pass up. You can say to yourself "screw it" I'll just off myself when the money runs out. But when that day comes I'm sure most of us wouldn't be able to go through with it.
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Well I have 2 kids, but here's the thing. My experiences have had an effect on my mindset. I'm not looking forward to seeing grandkids if I do thats fine and all but its not some great moment in life for me...happy for my kids I'm sure I'll be..proud of them making that far..yes, but if they never had kids I wouldn't be hurt by it.
The thing is all that stuff is great, go ahead and look forward to old age if you want, but I personally don't see the upside, what am I suppose to be fulfilled by my work life? Or bouncing grandkids on my knee.
Who in the world are these people that are fulfilled and satisfied by work, has long been one of my unanswered questions.
I've seen enough early loss of life to have the mindset of living life for today, not for something that often does not come. How many times do you hear or see people who waited to retire for longer than they needed only to end up sick or dead shortly after.
My biggest fear in life isn't having to go home broke and start over, my biggest fear would be to not have the courage to do it at all and just play it safe, save my money for my kids to inherit and live out my days waiting to make some doctor rich.
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Those are my sentiments to a 't' and I probably couldn't have said it better myself H.
We need to do a few beers the next time you are over young man.
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Well I have 2 kids, but here's the thing. My experiences have had an effect on my mindset. I'm not looking forward to seeing grandkids if I do thats fine and all but its not some great moment in life for me...happy for my kids I'm sure I'll be..proud of them making that far..yes, but if they never had kids I wouldn't be hurt by it.
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Well I can definitely feel that my old man is gutted that niether me or my brother are family minded..
Its more than the 'when the grandkid coming'.. Hes talking about 'maintaining the family name' etc.. doesnt help that hes from a huge catholic irish brood and all his brothers and sisters have all got almost double digit rug rats in thier name..
Joking aside.. I thin it saddens him that we are not adding to the globes population problem.
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Ohh sing it.. daddy-o..
Work is for money and in turn security... For me theres no need for self image through employer or power or any of that shit.. In fact I was embarrassed by employing people I was mates with.
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I've seen enough early loss of life to have the mindset of living life for today, not for something that often does not come. How many times do you hear or see people who waited to retire for longer than they needed only to end up sick or dead shortly after.
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Wife (and soulmate) died.. That changed my head overnight..
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My biggest fear in life isn't having to go home broke and start over, my biggest fear would be to not have the courage to do it at all and just play it safe, save my money for my kids to inherit and live out my days waiting to make some doctor rich.
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Agreed but dont say it wouldnt suck hard to run out !! Without dependants it would be a horror and with them it would be an emotional horror on being a liability..
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Well I have 2 kids, but here's the thing. My experiences have had an effect on my mindset. I'm not looking forward to seeing grandkids if I do thats fine and all but its not some great moment in life for me...happy for my kids I'm sure I'll be..proud of them making that far..yes, but if they never had kids I wouldn't be hurt by it.
The thing is all that stuff is great, go ahead and look forward to old age if you want, but I personally don't see the upside, what am I suppose to be fulfilled by my work life? Or bouncing grandkids on my knee.
Who in the world are these people that are fulfilled and satisfied by work, has long been one of my unanswered questions.
I've seen enough early loss of life to have the mindset of living life for today, not for something that often does not come. How many times do you hear or see people who waited to retire for longer than they needed only to end up sick or dead shortly after.
My biggest fear in life isn't having to go home broke and start over, my biggest fear would be to not have the courage to do it at all and just play it safe, save my money for my kids to inherit and live out my days waiting to make some doctor rich.
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i wouldnt know what is like to be a dad, let alone a granddad
but every grandparent i have ever known absolutely loves it to death, so there has to be something that is rewarding and fulfulling
as far a s loving your work. i like my work, but dont love it. but i sure wish i was in a job i loved, like working with animals or something
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Wife (and soulmate) died.. That changed my head overnight..
Agreed but dont say it wouldnt suck hard to run out !! Without dependants it would be a horror and with them it would be an emotional horror on being a liability..
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Ditto Sef...guess that's one more thing we have in common...and your right it would suck and is why I would do my best to avoid it, but I'm too chicken shit to do myself in, way I figure it if I could always take up hashin I think that would do me in.
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Those are my sentiments to a 't' and I probably couldn't have said it better myself H.
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Long over due my friend..long over due....
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