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24-05-2006, 00:14
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Living in LOS ,Maybe Its not Worth IT ??
For years now I have been traveling in and around Thailand and the Phillippines and yet at times I always think to myself WOW it would be great to live and retire here.
However after investgating and looking at all the options and COSTS Yes costs are nothing like they use to be. I ask myself is it really Worth It ?????? It seems to me most are living on USA income costs In other words if You own your own home in your own host country for the most part Your costs of living are Not that much different then Thailand at all. If anything in some instances Its More in LOS then your own country. Another Item Women ???? WOW I want to hook up with a bargirl or a regular girl with Kids and support them and thier families ???? Isnt that Marriage in another form,I dont get it at all All this talk all the time about these great Thai girls and yet most have kids from some loser Thai guy and now I have to play and support like Daddy ???? **** THAT ,,,,, Why. I love these punters who come on here and claim about their whale Ex-wives back at home and yet they do the samething once they Hit Thailand Support Support,Support with yet another women but its Ok she is small in statue and younger but with Kids and JUST as much baggage and bullshit but she only costs 10-15k a month to support hahahaahahhaahahahaha. I love Thailand and all of Asia just as much as the next guy BUT to live there Long term I dont think so. TO Vacation their Yes, Life long No way. Its still going to cost you at least 1500-2000.00 a month USA $ to live there nice{Long-term}.I dont care what anyone says. For that amount if you could own a home outright and could live in Vegas,Florida and many other places where as the climate is just as If not much better Food is superior and yet you retain all the USA Nice things in life and maybe vacation there A few months year. Its a pipe dream for many to live on a 1000.00 a month in Thailand I am not saying IT cannot be done BUT I would love to see how THEY really live day to day I am betting its a Medicore life at best to say they live in Thailand I would pass. Advantages of living in Thailand Girls Girls Girls Maybe a beach is YOU are really a Beach person ???? Disadvantages of living in Thailand Girls with just as much bullshit as home country #2 SEE # 1 #3 SEE #2 Humidity Sucks You are still looked upon as a ATM machine You never know what the next day is bringing in terms of Daily bullshit with uncontrolled expenses .....Living in a third world country brings LOTS of unexpected BULLSHIT. Stay in your Host country pay off ALL of your debt Travel to Thailand from time to time and Enjoy everything. WHY Place ALL Your eggs SO highly on 1 Place ??????? Women are for SALE all over the world Just ASK your Ex-wife ??????? mRSTEIN |
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24-05-2006, 01:40
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In 7 month, you have made 4 posts, the first one asking about bar fines , the next was a nice post about a guesthouse , then 2 posts basically say LOS is not worth the money . Why the change in attitude , how about a post about your experiences out there.
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24-05-2006, 02:45
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Looks like someone have been burned...........If you have had so many bad experiences in Los, why bother to go back......Mybe you just have been unlucky with the people you have met, or mybe acted in a way that most Asian or others dont like.........who knows?
It would be nice to hear your story................. At least for me I love Los, even the small things that used to anoy me a little bit when I was on holiday is sometimes quite sharming when you know how to handle it  Geir |
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24-05-2006, 05:14
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Lied to by a BG.  They don't LIE do they.  So I'm not really "the only one".   Tell me it isn't so.  |
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24-05-2006, 08:05
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Lets put the brakes on Boy"s,I never once stated that Thailand is an Evil doer Hangout Did I ???????? I never did say the Thai people are the Worst of the worst did I ????? I am making a general assumption that Living In Thailand I think isnt all that its craked up to be at all. I have been to Phucket twice and pattaya twice and Bangkok at least 5 times I have had a great time each time ,,Exception the Scuba diving in Phuket was WAY OVERATED however the Chicks were Ok. What I am saying is that Once you figure and look at the cost overall and what You get for IT ?????? Does it really make sense. So what YOU GUYS are telling all of US is that to move to Thailand Hook up with a an Ex or current bargirl Pay for her shit and even Her kid or kids and Live the Life of luxury. How is that Living I ask ????? To spend 2-3 grand a month every Month to live a SO called great life with Chicks whom You have to support No matter what How is that ANY different then what most of yOU GO THRU Now. As I said I feel that going to Thailand and enjoying its fruits and Keeping everything in Check is a much better way then Over indulging into Decit and Lies. I would take a Ranch in Montana or A Beachront condo in Florida on a Fulltime basis then living Fulltime in Thailand. But then again Thats me ................................... Thailand is a land of phoney Smiles and Decit ......Fun for shortime Longtime No way. Sorry to throw some of Your dreams away. I think if a lot You talk to some Long time residents You would be very suprised what many would have to say to you. I personally know of 2 that came back home statside and it wasnt becasue they fell short of cash. It cracks me up anytime a board member will come out and tell or Spin it another way How many will come and lash out and make assumptions as those above. Just becasue someone looks thru the glass a bit different doesnt mean that they had such a Bad time or such Bad luck. I also love the posters whom jump right on that bandwagon of How many posts I have or what I had asked in the past ????? The phillippines is my usual stommping grounds and its funny how many posters I have meet over the years a few of them that claim they live these great lives and such oversea"s YEH RIGHT .....Sure they dont. Not everything is what it appears.With this being said I am sure there are a few guys outthere who do enjoy thier lifestyles and would not trade them in for anything at any costs and I say Good for You. Keep in mind thu Many who get spun over girls Usually would not stand a Chance in their own host country of landing a Somewhat Hot girl to begin with. Thailand can give You a great time Longterm thu I just dont know I wouldnt DO IT ........If anything Pussie can and usually ****s up a lot things in ones life ESP if you go nuts with it all the time. Checks and Balances Universal law My friends .............. Reality needed to be stated. Mrstein Last edited by mrstein : 24-05-2006 at 08:17. |
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24-05-2006, 12:13
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I'm guessing that your name isn't Einstein,I think maybe "Beer"stein might be
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24-05-2006, 14:20
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Its been a long time since I was in cali or florida but if you think cost of living there is equal to here I guess your eating in Dennys..
My lifestyle cost me between 6 and 10k Euro per month back in the west depending on how much partying was.. A good night out in London sets you back a couple hundred quid.. Running a car round the city multi grand per year in insurances, fines, damage, parking etc.. I think to live a nice / flash life in London would be coming close to 100k GBP in outgoings.. A flash life out here, private villas, servants, sailing and golf, the good life.. 30k GBP tops.. Min lifestyle 10 - 12k GBP.. Yes theres drawbacks, yes things are not 3rd world dirt cheap.. But there are all the first world amenaties you need for very nice non 3rd world lifestyle.
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24-05-2006, 14:34
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In reponse to your opinion about the costs of living, weather and ladies... Now first of all before picking up and moving to an asian country with the exception of Singapore and Japan, one must decide what he/she REALLY wants and likes in life... I'm quite the opposite to you because i LOVE living in asia (have lived here my whole life) I prefer going to Europe and the United States on holiday and living here but thats just my opinion...
Lets start by doing a price comparison on buying a house/apartment... In LOS you will be able to find something quite nice for about US$250,000 roughly 10mil bht... In bangkok you'll probably get a nice 3 bedroom apartment in a nice area, in Phuket you would be able to get a nice apartment with an ocean view and a house with or without a view for that price and i guarantee the house/apartment will be bigger than what you would get in the United States or Europe for the same price... In Chiang Mai you will get something similar to what you will get in Phuket except substitute your ocean view for a mountain or rice field view. Now i have no idea what property costs in the western world but i think i am correct when i say it more expensive than here... Next the subject of food... Now If you're someone that doesn't like asian food then i can understand your food costs might be a little higher, however i still think it would be slightly cheaper here than the west. For example if you're buying imported beef or salmon, cod, snowfish... Yes it costs a little bit more than local food, but still cheaper than in the west... Take for example what you would get at a regular restaurant... Simply pad thai noodle and chicken fried rice (kao pad gai), generally sold for between 80bht - 120bht... But if you go to the food stalls you can get both these dishes for 40bht or US$1. Now the ladies... Can you honestly tell me the ladies in the west don't come with some form of baggage??? And the other thing, you make it sound like there are no normal women in LOS... Surely you don't think all the ladies in LOS can be purchased for a certain price... I tell all my friends that come here to visit, treat people with respect and treat the ladies like ladies. Why should you act any different here compared to the way you act back home... Once when i was in Dragon, i saw a guy (tourist) grab one of the waitresses by the ass, she swore at him, looked at him in disgust and walked away... Now the ladies here won't slap you or sue you for sexual harassment but why would he do that in the first place...???  Would he have done that in a nightclub in the west?? I highly doubt it... In conclusion, i love living here and i will continue to live here because i see it being more cost effiencient for me. When it comes down to cost of living, its much cheaper here than the west and i don't think you can argue with that. When it comes to food, well if you like asian food that is, you can eat like a king for literally half the price you would pay in the west. And as for the ladies... Well don't expect to find that special someone in soi bangla, soi cowboy, nana plaza or patpong... Try places that regular thai people go to or local foreign residents go to... There are plenty of normal, hard working and i don't mean BG's but TG's around you just have to go to the right place... You wouldn't expect to find a nice girl in the red light district of Amsterdam or Las Vegas would you??? That same concept applies here so i don't see why you would think any different... Just remember when in LOS have a great time as i'm sure you did, treat the ladies like ladies and not "working girl" and you'll get a lot further... Now this might sound weird but the BG's here don't consider themselves prostitutes/******s. They simply take money from you for doing something that they themselves enjoy doing. And this money is then used to buy food, pay rent and is sent home to their families... And of course i have not touched on any bad stories but this happens in any country as there are bad people everywhere in the world and there is nothing we can do to change that, so just remember no matter what, just be careful...
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24-05-2006, 18:00
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Good post...........nice to see someone living in the real world and not sugar coating everything  |
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24-05-2006, 18:39
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How different people perceive Thailand
However to survive a month on a 2,000$ (75,000B) budget is a real acheivement 5555555 coz on my last humble 2 weeks trip I thought I would spend about 25K SEK (125,000B) but I had so much fun that I ended up spending about 32K SEK (160,000B) thou that includes accomodation  If I could turn back time I would do it again without any regrets And most probably I'll be doing it again for three weeks in November At home I could maybe have half the fun for two days compared to the fun and good time I had for two weeks in Thailand. That's my opinion and how I see things anyway.Cheers!
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24-05-2006, 19:19
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Sounds like you won't be moving here then MrStein.
>>Hook up with a an Ex or current bargirl Pay for her shit and even Her kid or kids and Live the Life of luxury.<< It's not obligatory to hook up with a Thai girl and bear the costs of supporting her and her family you know. I know several expats with Thai partners where not 1 baht of their money goes to her family unless he wants to make a gift like on a birthday or songkran. We all live different lifestyles depending on our needs and circumstances and personally I much prefer to rent a ladys' company by the hour/night/day for a very small donation in comparison with most other places in the world...plus it's like being in a chocolate factory here with an endless range of new flavours to try Seems your only real issue is to do with MONEY. You're as likely to get burnt financially hooking up with a woman no matter what part of the world you decide to put your roots down. >>Vegas,Florida<< Vegas...why would I want to live there?...a sh#t load of concrete and neon lights in the middle of a desert....or Florida...many desperate scary people living there plus a major chance of your home being blown away by a hurricane. Last edited by landofsmiles : 24-05-2006 at 19:28. |
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24-05-2006, 19:26
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I don't think that a 2 week holiday can be used as a yardstick for estimating the cost of living in LOS on a long term basis. Replace your hotel accommodation with a longterm rent up Nanai and slow down on the drink and BGs, then you will come down from your 160,000 baht in 2 weeks. |
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24-05-2006, 19:36
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I know and well that's one reason why I don't quite concider moving there thou when I was in Patong, I gave the idea some serious thoughts. I didn't drink too much, I was heavely drunk on 2 occations and I did have only 1 TG with me the whole time during my time in patong that is, (I was in Bangkok 10 hours on my way home and that's all I'm gonna say/admit 55555) My comment was intented as a different view on the money issue, I wanted to give my opinion with regard to the part about Thailand along with the bar scene being too expensive or not worth the money...
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24-05-2006, 21:00
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My little 2 cents.
I've never been to Thailand... yet. My closest thing so far has been to Singapore and a couple of days in Kuala Lumpur besides lurking around here on the message boards from time to time. Anyway, I had an absolute blast during my nearly two week trip to Singapore earlier this year. My only comment is regarding the costs of "fun" here in New York City (not even Manhattan but even just like places in Queens) versus costs there in Thailand. Like I said, even though I haven't been to Thailand, I've been told that it's much cheaper there than Singapore and Malaysia. In less than 2 weeks I've burnt just shy of 4,000 USD while I was there and I felt that it was completely worth it. I've been dumb enough to "go out" with some friends here to drink in Manhattan's Korean "room saloons" and burned about 600 dollars for just talking to girls without any expectations of getting them in the sack (it's really up to them whether they'll go with you or not, it's not straight prostitution and there are girls who just don't sleep with any customers). The really sad part? I don't drink.
Now, I don't make a lot of money and I'm far far FAR from retiring and I don't care about living in Thailand at all. After all, I've yet to go there. My only point is, if you spent just 2,000 dollars for the month living a vacation lifestyle and you weren't working... I'd say "Wow, that's cheap!" Roger |
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24-05-2006, 22:06
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I went to a young ladies studio apartment in Phuket. She was paying 4000 baht a month. Decent neighborhod, very clean apartment, had DSL(additional cost), 1 mile from beach. This is $104 a month.
Well I live near the beach in California and a studio here costs $1500 at the beach and at least $700 a mile away. Do the math, it is a lot cheaper to live in Thailand and anyone who thinks any different is smoking something.
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24-05-2006, 22:41
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I already live in Florida....on the water....very nice house. Hell, my fooken property taxes would afford me a very nice house w/ pool in the middle of Patong Beach. And since it would be rented, I don't have to worry about all the insurance and upkeep and the chance of natural disasters. Tsunami on the way?...Just hand the keys to the landlord and "hasta la vista baby".
And the only difference in weather is a few degrees cooler here...the humidity is the same. House for Sale!!!!!!!! LOL |
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25-05-2006, 01:04
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So far all replies have been good for the most part,,As anything you will always have a couple of guys No matter what you say or your thoughts are its never going to be good enough.
I guess a few out there in cyber world HATE the fact when a Dream killer comes on and lays out what Many know alreadyor Need to Hear. For the record I think the fact that the punters who live their and post on here DO US all a great service for sure as their insight and answers are always in a postive nature. They love their lives and would not trade them in for anything and You know thats Great, I think its a wonderfull thing that so many Love where their lives are and how it goes day to day. HOWEVER for a lot of US this is not reality in many ways. What I am representing is How A lot of US Dont think that Thailand is a catch of a lifetime Not even close,Does this mean I hate the place Not at all. Its a great time with Very nice folks Esp the guys whom you meet and Help All of us with so many questions and directions and Of course with the girls. However that is where it Stops. I always love when I hear punters claiming about How You can get an APT for 8-10000 baht a month YES you can HOW many of you seen these units I HAVE !!!!! Clean yes however if you like living in a large closet Be my guest or even many 2 bedroom places Yes they are nice but smaller then shit and maybe you can have a nice ocean view Ok nothing like having a view 15 stories up and neighbors that drive You nuts and a mangement team that doesnt fix a damn thing. Yes this could happen in many parts of the world but at least stateside You can do something about it for the most part and at least Your unit Is much bigger. One poster made a claim about buying something very nice for 250 grand US $$$ HAHAHAHAHAHA I am going to spend 250-300 grand US dollars in a third world country. YEH RIGHT So maybe the **** in a couple of years can get a hair up his ass and Thow us all out or worse yet come with restrictions that can make life Hard .....Will this happen Most likely Not But it could and then what happens ???? Living in a third world country has its advantages for sure But it also has its downfalls and the downfalls it has are Large. Lets talk about lifestyle also for a moment I have meet a ton of travelers and many ex-pats who do reside in Thailand I can honestly say that many of them Yes Nice guys in nature but the way they live thier lives is a Question mark at best ???? Most are drunks and degenarates that I would never hang out with. So what is the choice in life ???? Hang alone in Thailand or become part of the village idiots or Just tread thru life HAPPY and When vacation time draws near You know You will be Knee deep in pussie and sun. And the best part of it is that you get to Come Home and Think and smile and Think some more about that 2-3 week past vacation all year long until It comes up again. Always remember In life anything that is too good to be true Usually IS .... When I think of Thailand I think of Fox 5 news Anything they say You take with a grain of salt. It always sounds and looks good Until that perception is seen thru for what it really IS. Happy Hunting Boys Mrstein Last edited by dawsey : 25-05-2006 at 02:54. |
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25-05-2006, 01:12
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Thanks for the compliment  , guess we'll never see you at MTB then.
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25-05-2006, 01:20
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Hi FT, Thank god he will not be sitting on the bar stool next to us while we drink ice cold $2 singhas with our 20 year old girlfriend next to us waiting for our excellent $4 pizza to be hand delivered to us before we go back to our $400 a month 2 bedroom ocean view apartment and she f*cks our brains out. Hope he enjoys watching the cellulite on parade show wherever he lives. The only negative to Phuket is that they let fat women farang tourists hang out at the beach. Maybe Mr Stein should hang out at the beach more often as that seems to be what he is looking for. I wonder if he knows stevo.
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25-05-2006, 01:30
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hasta la vista baby
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What about HURRICANES on the way.....if not mistaken the season starts very soon ( june 1 st ) Hasta la vista those blowers have damaged more property during the years than any tsunami. |
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25-05-2006, 01:30
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I guess I would rather hang out with you guys than with a bunch of nagging pensioners in Florida or the lovely Country Club crowd you get over in the US of A. Kidding aside, I think from trying to show your point of view you drifted to ranting about the expats in LOS. I guess we all glad if you stay where you are.... |
