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Dreambox
Went with Nicke originally to take a look at the Forum's new sponsors operation and we liked the options available.
Went ahead and bought one - did not know at that time that my existing satalite set-up would need to be overhauled (since I for the past 18 months had been only watching Bloomberg on my satalite system - movies etc use the local cable).
Anyway - now my dish has been sorted - am very happy with the wide offerings available via the Dreambox - movies/news/music/sport and more fun channels a plenty - so would recomend anyone living here now with UBC to go to SatThaiTV shop and take a look at whats on offer - good value for money and many options for your veiwing pleasure.
Best times in afternoon/evening.
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Hi K2,
Might look a bit candid but what do you need to setup Dreambox?....Which one did you get?...Thks
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09-11-2006, 23:21
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Need internet connection (ADSL), statalite dish and box to move the dish. Straight forward if starting from stratch but if you have existing system then may need some help as I did.
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Cool! Thanks
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Worth a visit to your shop when I will be there...
Thanks for very useful information 
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Went with Nicke originally to take a look at the Forum's new sponsors operation and we liked the options available.
Anyway - now my dish has been sorted - am very happy with the wide offerings available via the Dreambox
Best times in afternoon/evening.
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wasn't sure whether you were talking about Coyotee's (our new patts sponsor) or Sat Thai TV for a second there Kev............ 
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10-11-2006, 09:34
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How many and what english channels do you get with the dreambox? Do you only have it hooked up to 1 satellite? Do you know if the viewsat works over there or if you need to have an ADSL equipped box. I am going to leave my viewsat hooked up at home and try streaming the video with a Slingbox. Looks like it might just work, but only for small screen sizes. Thanks for any info - db.
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10-11-2006, 09:48
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Slingbox over this Thai internet.. Very doubtful..
The 4 links to lyngsat above presumably have channel lists.. Multichoice, Astro, UBC and Telstar18 all seem to be done on a codeshare.. Different birds so need a mobile dish.
Finanally seems like TOT have sorted my line (please dont let that comment jinx it) and this again becomes and option. Spent 150k last week on crap tho so need a pause..
I asked in the past but didnt hear back.. The dreambox can stream over home LAN but can I stream one channel while watching another ?? I currently would liek to split my outputs to be a multi source system (GF in the bedroom on Thai TV, me in the theater with a different channel) but looking to do it on the cheap.
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Also Can ANY HDTV be picked up ??
Does Oz sat broadcast ?? Or SA ?? Or only FTA ?? I know DVB can handle HD.. Its being done in Europe (testing)..
Would become much more interested if there was HiDef programming.
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10-11-2006, 10:44
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I was checking on slingcommunity and there are people that get it to work from USA to BKK anyway. I am hoping it will work, but also inquiring on the dreambox deal. So do you guys have big dishes setup to get all those channels? It looked like quite a few of them were C-band. As far as I know you can't watch one channel and stream the other with the dreambox. db
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N1 - perhaps one day I will tear myself away from my PI trips and finally see the better sights of Pattaya and definitely want to see Coyotee's place - long overdue
Guys as far as the question on viewing multi-channels via the Dreambox - you cant do this - only one at a time and the output is A/V so need a modulator to feed it back into the home network via a splitter (I'm not sure I will bother with this yet tho).
I'm still getting used to this - have so many new channels avaialble now and after watching one (Bloomberg) for last 18 months - its bit of a kid in a candy shop experience at the moment.
PS: LiL - thats good news on your ToT line - going to order as back-up now.
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Output being AV only ??? Nicke said that he was streaming the output over his home net (wirelessly) and viewing with VLC (video lan client, a common tool for TV streaming) in his bedroom. NorhTec produce a tiny low power small form factor PC for about 100 USD so adding one to the bedroom for TV / MP3 / Video streaming or a slimbox or other media extender all becomes interesting in the whole home solutions.
I now have the xbox 360 set up as a media extender and by using MCE on the HTPC in the theater can stream TV in real time to the xbox (but dont really want to give up the xbox to the bedroom its all wired into the projector and 5.1 ) as well as my media collection of music and if I wanted rip the DVD collection to WMV.. Whole house music and video jukebox with live pausable TV / TIVO features also.
For TV I currently have UBC that can be fed out to one place at a time.. (LCD TV in main room, projector in theater main room, or junky TV in bedroom) but cannot multisource.. Adding a dreambox would be one solution (2av out source) but ideally I would rather use the codeshare system but within the HTPC using MyTheater or similar DVB viewing card and a codeshare hack.. That way UBC could be in bedroom and hacked UBC could be in theater.
Another benefit of the internal HTPC system is that by keeping the signal from the DVB card, to the image processing, digital you get a cleaner signal.. Outputting by S-Video or (shudder) composite outputs leads to signal loss and bad image quality.. If you keep it in the PC you can actually use some good tools like the dScaler (whose domains I still maintain) open source deinterlacing filters or ffdshow filters on the directshow filtergraphs. Definately not mainstream for this forum but if putting UBC up on a 120 inch screen it looks poor and anything you can do to clean the signal up and presever as much detail as possible helps..
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LiL - Thats a bit beyond my techical expertise - I want to talk to Nicke what he's doing with his output - there is a parallel and serial port at the back of the Dreambox - so I guess Nicke is using one of these.
I need to learn more about this technology - looks like alot I've been missing out on.
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The dreambox is connected to the house net.. It will somehow be serving up a video stream over the net..
VideoLAN - The streaming solution
Try pointing a browser at its IP address.
As a HTPC nut I would rather keep it all in my media PC rather than running the linux capture solution of the dreambox (it is after all a form of computer in there anyway).. I already have a HTPC running, one less box etc..
With the dreambox 7025 I see it can have 4 active tuners (2 multiple streams simultainiusly) for different sat bands.. These really get interesting if your running multi source streaming over a smarthome style network system. The ability to archive like a TIVO, watch and pause live multiple TV feeds, access media librarys, all skinned using something like meedio (I have meedio set up looking really slick).. Stuff liek this would have been either impossible or run into the 100ks territory only a few years ago.
Problem is the UBC guide doesnt work for proper EPG functions. If UBC would release a guide in XMLTV format we would do so much mroe with it..
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First I must say please dont confuse other dreambox for sale at other Dealers
or from another country or you will have a blank screen ..
These channels are ONLY access if you purchase your Box from Our Company we are the Only Company that can supply the Full Range ...
The Dreambox yes you can stream very Easy all you have to do is type the Dreambox IP in your browser .Then you will see the dreambox menu pop up with different options inc stream ...
EPG yes the Dreambox does have EPG inc UBC working EPG
there is too much to list what you can do with this Box .........
It really can do anything so much software around for Dreambox
The links listed above are all ( English ) channels and also has option to change audio language
Our dreambox setup correctly with a Motorized Dish more then 2'400 channels

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First I must say please dont confuse other dreambox for sale at other Dealers
or from another country or you will have a blank screen ..
These channels are ONLY access if you purchase your Box from Our Company we are the Only Company that can supply the Full Range ...
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Sorry but thats simply not true. I know your selling this but credibility is based on honesty.
Jsat ( DM500-S entry level set top box = Technical details ) offer the dreambox 500 with the channels code sharing that you mention as do SatThai ( :: SatTHAI Satellite and CCTV :: ) and a few other sat installers in Thailand..
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But the question is does it support multiple streams ?? I am trying to multi source so different zones support different channels simultainiously. I think unless its the 70xx series theres not 2 tuners but I am not certain as I dont have one.
In reality its much easier (for me) to use my HTPC and either a codeshare hack or hardware irdeto2 splitters. With multiple cheap DVB cards I can add multiple tuners and a DVR easily.. Then again most people dont have PC's in thier equipment rack.
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Unless something has radically changed in the last year or so the UBC EPG is practically useless.. Its not a proper EPG its just 'next program' thats not an EPG.. This is UBC's fault not the boxes at all, but this is a broadcaster limitation thats frustrated me for years..
A proper EPG lists programs that happen for a long time (pref weeks but min days or a week) in the future so you can set season passes, teach your DVR to record your show always, that kind of thing.. I have been emailing UBC for years trying to get them to release data in XMLTV format (instead of that stupid txt file) or any other industry standard EPG format as it could then be imported into ShowShifter, BeyondTV, SageTV, MythTV, Or anyone of the DVR tools out there. I even offered to help them do it, if they would co-operate at all the text file they offer could be stripped and reformated to industry standards but TiT..
If you have ever used a TIVO with EPG you would see what I am saying.. Being able to check what time next friday something is on, and set the record instantly, being able to search 'sienfeld' and set a season pass to record every episode at set times, search 'simpsons' and have it record on all channels all broadcasts.. This is what timeshifting really means and the basic building block for that is an accurate EPG without which it is impossible, UBC's is (to my knowledge hours ahead only, the next program) and makes this impossible.
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How to use your Dreambox as a PVR
For those that have bought them..
How to hook up into your net to act as a PVR via a host PC.. Slideshow of settings.
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Sorry but thats simply not true. I know your selling this but credibility is based on honesty.
Jsat ( DM500-S entry level set top box = Technical details ) offer the dreambox 500 with the channels code sharing that you mention as do SatThai ( :: SatTHAI Satellite and CCTV :: ) and a few other sat installers in Thailand..
But the question is does it support multiple streams ?? I am trying to multi source so different zones support different channels simultainiously. I think unless its the 70xx series theres not 2 tuners but I am not certain as I dont have one.
In reality its much easier (for me) to use my HTPC and either a codeshare hack or hardware irdeto2 splitters. With multiple cheap DVB cards I can add multiple tuners and a DVR easily.. Then again most people dont have PC's in thier equipment rack.
Unless something has radically changed in the last year or so the UBC EPG is practically useless.. Its not a proper EPG its just 'next program' thats not an EPG.. This is UBC's fault not the boxes at all, but this is a broadcaster limitation thats frustrated me for years..
A proper EPG lists programs that happen for a long time (pref weeks but min days or a week) in the future so you can set season passes, teach your DVR to record your show always, that kind of thing.. I have been emailing UBC for years trying to get them to release data in XMLTV format (instead of that stupid txt file) or any other industry standard EPG format as it could then be imported into ShowShifter, BeyondTV, SageTV, MythTV, Or anyone of the DVR tools out there. I even offered to help them do it, if they would co-operate at all the text file they offer could be stripped and reformated to industry standards but TiT..
If you have ever used a TIVO with EPG you would see what I am saying.. Being able to check what time next friday something is on, and set the record instantly, being able to search 'sienfeld' and set a season pass to record every episode at set times, search 'simpsons' and have it record on all channels all broadcasts.. This is what timeshifting really means and the basic building block for that is an accurate EPG without which it is impossible, UBC's is (to my knowledge hours ahead only, the next program) and makes this impossible.
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Dont be Confused
The other companys you mention CANNOT supply the channels we offer !!
Also take a look at the crazy price and you DO NOT get any FREE SERVER .
( They clearly state (you will need a subscription - ASK us about this option)
Maybe you should speak with K2 he will explain to you .
We supply everything FREE / FREE
So i will tell you again NOBODY can supply you this Product that we sell ( WORKING )
We also are going to ADD more and more

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PSISat JSat and the SATThai.tv all offer this I HAVE spoken with them.. If you read the web page at jsat in the very first link it lists..
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Thats the channels your offering correct ?? Those are listed with the JSat page.
I understand what your offering, Dreamboxes with firmware that uses a codeshare system working for one year (you said it was one year working, then subscribe to the private 'club' for the keys).. You claim its unique, sorry but thats not true.
Since looking around it seems codeshare is nicely speading now that broadband is getting established Cardsharing Informations - Your No. 1 Resource for PayTV Cardsharing!
I wish you all the best in your service and business but claiming your the only place to get this is not factual.
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PSISat JSat and the SATThai.tv all offer this I HAVE spoken with them.. If you read the web page at jsat in the very first link it lists..
Thats the channels your offering correct ?? Those are listed with the JSat page.
I understand what your offering, Dreamboxes with firmware that uses a codeshare system working for one year (you said it was one year working, then subscribe to the private 'club' for the keys).. You claim its unique, sorry but thats not true.
Since looking around it seems codeshare is nicely speading now that broadband is getting established Cardsharing Informations - Your No. 1 Resource for PayTV Cardsharing!
I wish you all the best in your service and business but claiming your the only place to get this is not factual.
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I tell you again they CANNOT Supply what we do ( Impossible )
and im not going to post why .But you can buy your dreambox anywhere you wish when you want it to work i can upgrade for you for 6'000 baht .
There are servers and then there are real servers not like ching chong server which is more down than up ??? but they still cannot supply what we do ..
As for my last post about the add part
There will be 16 packages ( Open ) which nobody else can supply 100% becuase i own the BOX Controller and will not give to other dealer's
Please do post here what price they told you and what it will open on there mickey mouse server ??

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I am considering renting a house in phuket for the winter. If the owner already has satellite tv will i get more channels by only switching to a dreambox - or do I have to talk the owner into changing or adding another dish. Thanks, db.
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Had problems with my ADSL - so not been able see this thread (or TV either) - still hope the back up ToT line on order will limit these downtimes.
LiL is way ahead of me when it comes to this technology - its pretty new to me.
As I get it - service is good once all installed properly - but need a dish capable of moving to all desired satalites and C and Ku band LNB's that can pick up the signals (which I did'nt have initially). You also need a working ADSL line - doesnt use much bandwidth though - so not found any interference with main internet activities.
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