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07-01-2007, 19:44
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90 days in / 90 days out now OUT?
Digging desperately around the net, as my present visa ends on Jan 20, I see this official but un-dated announcemnent: http://www.immigration.go.th/nov2004...hp?page=90days does this mean the 90in/90out policy is OUT? Read yourself and reply (by IM or post):
Notification of staying in the Kingdom over 90 days- Procedure and notification 1. The foreigner makes the notification in person, or 2. The foreigner authorises another person to make the notification, or 3. The foreigner makes the notification by registered mail. 4. The notification must be made within 7 days before or after the period of 90 days expires. 5. The first application for extension of stay by the foreigner is equivalent to the notification of staying in the Kingdom over 90 days. Offices accepting notification: 1. Counter 3, Immigration Bureau Office, Soi Suanphlu, Bangkok 2. Visa extension units, Ratchada Centre (BOI) 3. Immigration offices throughout the country Notification by registered mail 1. Copy of all passport pages (up to the latest arrival stamp in the Kingdom or latest visa stamp) 2. Copy of arrival/departure card TM. 6 (front and back) 3. Previous notifications of staying over 90 days (if any) 4. Completely filled in and signed notification form TM. 47 5. Envelope with 5 Baht stamp affixed and return address of foreigner for the officer in charge to send back the lower part of form TM. 47 after having received the notification. This part must be kept for reference and for future notifications of staying over 90 days. 6. The above mentioned documents must be sent by registered mail and the receipt of the registration kept by the foreigner. Send the mail before the renewal date 7 days to 90 DAYS REGISTRATION, ROOM 206 IMMIGRATION BUREAU, 507 SOI SUANPLU,SOUTH SATHORN RD., THUNGMAHAMEK SATHORN BANGKOK. 10120 Note * The notification of staying in the Kingdom over 90 days is in no way equivalent to a visa extension. * If a foreigner staying in the kingdom over 90 days without notifying the Immigration Bureau or notifying the Immigration Bureau later than the set period, a fine of 2,000.- Baht will be collected. If a foreigner who did not make the notification of staying over 90 days is arrested, he will be fined 4,000.- Baht. * If a foreigner leaves the country and re-enters, the day count starts at 1 in every case. * For details contact 0-2285-5142, 0-2287-3101-10 ext.2262, 2263 
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#2
07-01-2007, 21:41
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No your confusing 90 day visa reporting with the issue of opnly getting a max of 90 days issues in 180 days on visa free stamps.
Go read the 100's of pages on Thai visa about this.. Time to get a real visa..
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#3
07-01-2007, 23:07
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No, time to go home!
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No, time to go home! Where I am welcome, I just hate the cold. Maybe I'll settle on Lankawi, MY, same sun, same ocean....and 3 mo on arrival. Actually I may go practice my Spanish in Venezuela or Cuba, 6 mo on arrival, or Bahamas, 8 mo on arrival, not even a passport required there (only the US wants one upon return). Tropical beaches and willing women are everywhere.
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08-01-2007, 04:26
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Dont you think that is a bit of a hasty decision?
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08-01-2007, 06:39
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Malaysia rolls out the red carpet to live there also.. But Langkawai v Phuket.. No contest. Quote:
But it is one many people are now looking at.. This year alone, companys cannot get away with owning land, thai shareholders have to prove asset injection and face full auditing if a farangs in the co, Thais are not allowed to be non voting shares, no more non imm O multis from SEA consulates, no more multi tourist visa's from non SEA consuls, No more supporting a child visa if under 50 y/o, no more infinate 30 day stamps.. The list goes on and the amount of changes in a 1 year period are many straws which will break a lot of camels backs.
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08-01-2007, 11:04
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Breaking camp
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You got it....I lived 5 years in BKK 1993-97 and the attitude and mood of the authorities was much more relaxed then. I came in with biz visas that I got by mail from a TH consulate off-shore, no questions asked, for maybe $25, and made visa runs every 2/3 months which were fun and cheap. The pay was excellent until they had that 50% devaluation of the baht. -- It was a good reason then to return home, just to come back a few times on vacations. Things are quite different now, they don't even seem to say 'sawasdee' as often as they used to. Every farang is a suspect to the authorities and a target to gold-diggers. I'm in the lucky position that I can go whereever I damn please and will exercise that option. There are plenty of destinations to chose from. I just hate the hassles of breaking camp and moving.
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08-01-2007, 15:06
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I dont see me packing up and leaving all that yet..
But to me the new rules, the new implementation of the old rules, the increasing stability lowering, and the uncertainty of never being able to really be secured from some immigration officers whim next month.. Is really make me keep my eyes open. I am also lucky enough I can leave at any time it gets too much.. But for guys who are older, having families, maybe planning how to spend out thier retirement savings as they age in country, they are commited. The really cruel change has been that in the last few months a father can no longer have a child support visa unless over 50 !!! I mean WTF !!! Why would 50 years (when he could get a retirement visa) mark a point when you support your child.. Thats splitting fathers from children for no reason.
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08-01-2007, 16:37
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I see two camps forming.
Dreamers. Those that think that all these changes (including the still unclear 30% foreign cash hold back) as a sign that they will need to start reversing things. Clearer visa rules for those under-50-with-cash-crowd and better leasehold rights. This will then lead to a real boom here. Realists: This is a sign that the party is over. Line-up plan B. Seriously consider the Malaysia/Vietnamese options. Personally I am trying to ride the line. Make some long-term plans to keep living here, but giving more and more thought to what's next. If there are not some reversals in the next six months, I am moving firmly into the realists camp and will start lining up a new home. This assumes they don't think of more crazy things in the meanwhile.
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08-01-2007, 23:09
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I am confused with these new visa laws can I or can't I get a 3 month tourist visa or a 12 month visa I am currently in the UK and will get there on Feb 5th whats my best option for the longest visa possible to apply for (I am 41)
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09-01-2007, 00:58
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You can still get the 3 months tourist visa, no one said anything about that.
Without any proper visa you would be able to get 2 months tourist visa by applications at the Thai embassy, 1 month extension at immigration in Thailand, then 3 visa runs a'la 1 month a time. Which gives you a total of 6 months in Thailand. Then after that you need to leave for 6 months.
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09-01-2007, 03:14
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Wrong... If nor having visa but visa exempt you are allowed 90 days per 6 months in Thailand. So after 90 days on visa and 90 days on visa runs you are within that requirement. Clock starts again at 0 that time.
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09-01-2007, 03:36
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A two month+30 days extension tourist visa should be ok, as long they dont enforce the 3 in a row rule.
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10-01-2007, 10:39
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Also as long as they still give tourist visa's to those that have just done 3x30's or even in 9 months 3x30 then a 60+30 and 3x30 again..
Kinda stupid to make all these new rules with such a simple way around them..
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10-01-2007, 16:06
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na...farang are just too sneaky
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13-01-2007, 18:12
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Not sure if its stupid LIL. I dont remember how much the visa application fee is but isnt it somewhere around 1500-2000baht? Either way, as it worked before no one had to apply for a visa since they could just do visa runs passing the border for free everytime. Now with this new visa rules they will get ALOT of money coming in from the visa applications.
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13-01-2007, 18:37
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Its about 1000 baht a visa.. So they get 1000 baht once each 6 months (assuming that its visa then 3x30).. Seems like masses of consulate workload for that..
Why not allow in country 30 day extensions (and background checks) for 2000 baht a time... Pure profit and easy.
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13-01-2007, 19:08
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Always wondered about that one too lil...lots of money left to the visa run companies and it would be simple for them to do, we're talking a lot of money here, so I'm surpised that isn't being looked at...not even to mention the monies being made by just having the farrang around year round. Just saw an article about the tat wanting to try and manipulate the tourist in phuket, quality over quantity...I think that will one day be the coarse of action and the attemp to clear out the entertainment will happen one day...turn the island into a rich family place...its too late for other places, but I think they may try and make that happen one day.
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13-01-2007, 19:14
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i am not somuch into this visa problem but i guess
in worst case scenario some of the BM could share a flat in malaysia or vietnam and take turns to live there for 3 months
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13-01-2007, 19:22
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Phnom Phen probably more many BM's territory..
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#23
13-01-2007, 19:28
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i agree, PP good to have fun. also cheaper but not sure about visa in cambodia.
philipines might also be good option. good chicks, cheap and best beer in SEA in malaysia there is only KL to have fun. langkawi nice place but no girls...
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