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Old 27-02-2007, 20:15
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Bar owner arrested last week

I heard that one bar owner was arrested last week. He have a bar on Bangla road and was celebrating his birthday. He changed the CD for the music and 4 plain clothes policemen walked to him and said happy birthday and then they arrested him.

He dont have work permit and is not allowed to change music in the bar.
He paid 100k for bail and he is waiting for the court, he might get deported.

I heard this from a friend of him and his gf told Ead the same.

I know this happened 8-9 years ago in Patong but havent heard anything like this for years until now.
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Old 27-02-2007, 21:34
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Just another way that the competition is out to get you..

Police or hitmen.. Often one and the same !!
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Old 27-02-2007, 21:49
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When I was in Patts 4 years ago, I got friendly with a girl who had a hot sausage stall (big sausages). As a laugh I asked her to take a photo of me cooking at her stall - she looked worried and said no, ''incase police see you''.

Gotta feel sorry for this bloke though - wonder if he had been asked for a contribution to the policaman's fund, but forgot to pay?????? 4 plain clothes pouncing as he changes in a cd in 10 seconds??
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Old 28-02-2007, 00:58
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That's one nasty story! A good thing no MIB ever saw me recruiting customers when I was sitting outside my fav massage salon while enjoying a beer
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Hope it all works out for that guy.
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Old 28-02-2007, 01:35
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every bar?? ive never had a problem in any bars ive been in while in thailand.
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Old 28-02-2007, 02:04
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Just another way that the competition is out to get you..

Police or hitmen.. Often one and the same !!

Exactly right. If you happen to piss someone off and they know some mib, then this is a very likely scenario for them to get you back. Has happended before and will happen again. Without a WP you dont do a thing in the bar with the door open.

What was it in another thread where someone said that this exact thing was ridiculous, and my statement was wrong. Welcome to the real world.
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Old 28-02-2007, 02:11
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What was it in another thread where someone said that this exact thing was ridiculous, and my statement was wrong. Welcome to the real world.

If you're going to quote yourself, get it right

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Thats problem in Thailand, even if you go about your own business and everything you do is above board, you'll still be pissing someone off, why because you are farang.

Well it seems like this guy may have not been minding his own business. Perhaps he just was pissing people off flat out. And he wasn't doing things above board.

Still feel like you made your point?
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Old 28-02-2007, 02:17
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Still feel like you made your point?

Doesnt bother me either way what you think. Whats your fvcken problem anyway, cant accept that trouble can and does find you.
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Old 28-02-2007, 02:24
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Doesnt bother me either way what you think. Whats your fvcken problem anyway, cant accept that trouble can and does find you.

If you go looking for trouble, it'll find you here for sure. This guy didn't have a work permit, he did work tasks, and that's illegal. He was asking for a problem and it found him. Real simple. No big conspiracy.

Seems that my problem is that I'm just not bitter like you. But that's a good problem that I'll keep.
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The conclusion is, if you have a bar dont do any work inside it and let your Thai staff do things. Its by law illegal to work in a bar without work permit.

I dont think we will see this often, but better stay safe.
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The conclusion is, if you have a bar dont do any work inside it and let your Thai staff do things. Its by law illegal to work in a bar without work permit.

I dont think we will see this often, but better stay safe.

i just thought you were a lazy bastard
never knew you were following the rules!!!
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Technically if you are doing any task that a Thai could do your working..

HONEY.. I need another coffee... Sorry love.. Thems the rules !!
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I have actually seen Nicke work at his bar.

He points at a customer and tells the staff get him another beer.

He actually lifts his hand almost shoulder high to do this.
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Old 28-02-2007, 09:38
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i just thought you were a lazy bastard
never knew you were following the rules!!!

This thread has been educational for me. I am now aware of the rules, and it helps explain why I've seen so many expat owners sitting around bars doing not much!
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Old 28-02-2007, 12:27
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I am now aware of the rules, and it helps explain why I've seen so many expat owners sitting around bars doing not much!
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Old 28-02-2007, 13:27
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The conclusion is, if you have a bar dont do any work inside it and let your Thai staff do things. Its by law illegal to work in a bar without work permit.

I dont think we will see this often, but better stay safe.

Exactly Nicke, I don't even give my friends or customers glasses to the staff for them to get a fresh one as this could be seen as working. I never go around behind the bar.

Too easy to have someone pissed off at you and cause some trouble. Your bar may be busier than the ones next to you so the owners, staff or friends of the owners can cause trouble for you using MIB. Not worth the problems, so just let your staff do what they're employed to do.... Most of the time, the hostesses (ladybar girls) will help out too if it's busy or you need anything.
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It's unfortunate that you can't get a wp to work in a bar.
I assume it would be good for business, having the freedom to protect your
investment "hands on"...
Would be nice to be able to chat with a farang bartender from time to time.
(from the other side of the counter)

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It's unfortunate that you can't get a wp to work in a bar.

They can and many do. Many don't for various reasons. But nearly all have the good sense not to cross the line if they don't have a WP. You can't have it both ways.
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It's unfortunate that you can't get a wp to work in a bar.

Even with a WP you can hardly do anything in your own bar!!

Bartending - serving drinks, etc - all these kinds of job are restricted to Thai's only, all you are given a WP for is to manage the place! (as owner)
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They can and many do. Many don't for various reasons. But nearly all have the good sense not to cross the line if they don't have a WP. You can't have it both ways.

I dont think you can can you ??

WP's are certainly not given for 'bar work'.. Now gaining a WP as the MD is one thing.. But you would still be in violation of the WP to then be doing bar work in your bar.

Part of the reason many bar owners dont get a WP is it doesnt actually entitle them to do any bar work.. That was my understanding.
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Why invest in a country that makes it so difficult with BS rules, enforce them only when it is screw someone or on the take, and have a government that does at will with no recourse for a business owner....

No thanks.... I will invest my money somewhere...
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Old 01-03-2007, 14:40