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Old 05-07-2007, 07:31
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I think it is almost fair to say that SDK is full of Kamala and maybe should be since he lives there, but at the same time is not willing to accept that it can be a crime ridden area, whether it originates from there or just happens around it. Which was my original premise...

I would just say to you... wake up. Maybe some BM's live in a farang protected area in Kamala and may support you, but there must be a reason for that... Maybe???
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Old 05-07-2007, 10:00
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Tanman please show me your facts and sources of your facts for your impression that Kamala is a crime ridden area. I live in Kamala and see no more signs of crime than in any other part of the island. Some BM's have got a fixation about Kamala and crime, but it is never founded on any form of evidence only their personal opinion.

I live on a farang protected development in Kamala the reason is very simple really it adds an extra layer of protection against theft. It is not exclusive to Kamala as there are many such developments on the island. My girlfriend was pleased with this aspect of where we live as it made her feel safer, she was not feeling unsafe because she lived in Kamala but unsafe as she is a Thai and is aware of potential dangers living in her country.

But the essence of all of this is simply, I feel a lot safer living here in Thailand than in almost anywhere else I have been in the world. Without looking for statistics, my OPINION is that this place is a lot safer, a lot less crime which is why it makes the newspapers when an incident happens.
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Old 06-07-2007, 06:06
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Tanman please show me your facts and sources of your facts for your impression that Kamala is a crime ridden area. I live in Kamala and see no more signs of crime than in any other part of the island.

Dodger, that is a typical statement from someone who drives a car in and out of Patong and into their gated community. It is a lot different if you are on a motorbike. SDK has already admitted to robberies, run off the road, street racing, et. al. Sorry, I just don't hear the same kind of noise from other beaches... In fact, anything he has described in his posts have never happened to me personally and I camp out in Patong when in Phuket.

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Some BM's have got a fixation about Kamala and crime, but it is never founded on any form of evidence only their personal opinion.


It is the news and media which gives this impression, plus hearsay of course. Sorry, I don't have any empirical data to support, but it is clear to me that there is something inherently different about Kamala. The parents of a good friend of mine want to get out of Kamala ASAP, partially because of the crime factor, whether real or imagined I do not know.

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I live on a farang protected development in Kamala the reason is very simple really it adds an extra layer of protection against theft. It is not exclusive to Kamala as there are many such developments on the island. My girlfriend was pleased with this aspect of where we live as it made her feel safer, she was not feeling unsafe because she lived in Kamala but unsafe as she is a Thai and is aware of potential dangers living in her country.


But, why do you need the extra layer of protection in the first place. I have seen far too many single/married mothers (with farang sponsors off somewhere overseas that would make excellent targets by the way) living in the heart of Patong and they just don't think about the crime aspect of life in Phuket.

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But the essence of all of this is simply, I feel a lot safer living here in Thailand than in almost anywhere else I have been in the world. Without looking for statistics, my OPINION is that this place is a lot safer, a lot less crime which is why it makes the newspapers when an incident happens.

That is good, but again, you are driving a truck and live in a gated community. Many cannot afford this kind of lifestyle. When I drive through the streets of Miami Beach I never notice the riff raff, but if I walk around, then I surely do.

Dodger, if Kamala Beach gets a bad rap for whatever reason, then I could only conclude that it is a good thing for the residents there. Less people, more room to stretch your arms, and cheaper prices for all...
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Old 06-07-2007, 08:19
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I appreciate what you are saying Mav and I don't doubt his advice.
I was just suggesting my own experience of Patong.
You know I once was trying to organise a trip to the Phillipines with my wife and read a lonely travel guide that said be careful over the there as Pillipinos shoot quickly if you don't give them what they ask. ( including your wife)
Now I am not a wimp and will fight and stick up for what I beleive is a threat to my wife and I, but on her reading this it was the end of travelling to the Phillipines. We ended up going to Thailand.

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Ah, you have a wife you do say? Do you have a mind of your own though? You seem to mention the "wife" quite a bit, but does she mention you as much as you do on her forums?

Approximately 60% of your posts mentions "your wife". I can see that it is great that you include her in your decision making, but I am not quite clear as to why you have to mention her 60% of the time in your posts, unless you are nada without her....
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Tanman you are miles away from any form of fact or truth just your personal opinion. I do own a truck but I also own two 125cc bikes and ride around Kamala all of the time on them. I do live in a gated community because I choose to not because of any potential crime or additional risk living in Kamala, you missed my point, there are gated communities all over Phuket, all over Thailand, all over the world, not only placed in 'hoods'. My girlfriend choose to stay living here, when I wanted to move to another property in Kamala, why because she felt safer when I was out, why did I listen to her and not you? she is Thai and surely knows her country a little better, her concern is not Kamala people but building workers from Mynamar.

Read ITM post which starts this thread, read his subsequent reply, it is not in Kamala that this one attack occurred but on the road to Surin, in fact closer to Surin than Kamala, so we should be discussing the crime rate in Surin not Kamala. Last year, note last year, there was an incident on the road from Kalim Bay to Kamala, not in Kamala.

Now lets consider your super safe. no trouble Patong, Lil tells us last year of a similar bike incident on the road from PATONG to Karon, Crusty tells us this year about him being knocked down and robbed in PATONG, another thread at present tells us about a guy who had his apartment robbed and laptop taken, in PATONG. Nicke gets his cat poisoned in PATONG.

But lets not consider just these crimes reported here on the forum, lets go by your feelings, you must of lived here in the village for quite some time to get such a good local informed opinion, whoops no of course you didn't did you, you stayed in PATONG and never experienced any crime whilst here so there is obviously none, but then surely you must have driven through Kamala and been attacked or robbed, what no you didn't? Perhaps me and Sundancekid who do live here actually do see and actually do know the crime rate, actually are aware who lives here and get a little fed up with the same people seemingly knocking where we live because they think its a crime spot, get me some facts and I'll eat my hat!! there's a challenge to you!
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Now lets consider your super safe. no trouble Patong, Lil tells us last year of a similar bike incident on the road from PATONG to Karon, Crusty tells us this year about him being knocked down and robbed in PATONG, another thread at present tells us about a guy who had his apartment robbed and laptop taken, in PATONG. Nicke gets his cat poisoned in PATONG.

You can add to that me a few weeks ago having my Paypal/ebay/email accounts hacked from an internet shop in PATONG.
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Geeez, I'm afraid to ride a motorbike anywhere, after dark. (usually a bit mao) 5555

Cep't for an occasional spin down Nanai, to hotel around 4:00AM. Hardly any traffic then.



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Ah, you have a wife you do say? Do you have a mind of your own though? You seem to mention the "wife" quite a bit, but does she mention you as much as you do on her forums?

Approximately 60% of your posts mentions "your wife". I can see that it is great that you include her in your decision making, but I am not quite clear as to why you have to mention her 60% of the time in your posts, unless you are nada without her....

i see nothing wrong with DBaron's posts
if and when I am married, when traveling to a 3rd world country, my main concern will be my wife's safety
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Old 07-07-2007, 03:00
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Ah, you have a wife you do say? Do you have a mind of your own though? You seem to mention the "wife" quite a bit, but does she mention you as much as you do on her forums?

Approximately 60% of your posts mentions "your wife". I can see that it is great that you include her in your decision making, but I am not quite clear as to why you have to mention her 60% of the time in your posts, unless you are nada without her....

Fallen off the bike and hit your head....? Or envy he has a wife...?
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Old 07-07-2007, 06:14
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Fallen off the bike and hit your head....? Or envy he has a wife...?

No envy at all. It just seems strange to me that someone would mention "his wife" in as many posts as he does. Check the logs of his if you want to know what I am talking about...

I am not faulting something or someone like this, but I think when you keep mentioning a girl (wife or not) in that many posts when including her is irrelevant to the topic, well you start to sound like half a man.

That is just my take on it. No offense intended really.
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I am not faulting something or someone like this, but I think when you keep mentioning a girl (wife or not) in that many posts when including her is irrelevant to the topic, well you start to sound like half a man.

That is just my take on it. No offense intended really.

Come on, now your sounding like half a man. You can tell someone there are pussy whipped then say "no offense". Of course you are being offensive, so just own up to it.

There are many guys in this thread talking about their wives, girlfriends, play friends. Most of us have one. And when it involves safety, damn straight they will be in our thoughts. That's part of being a full man.
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No envy at all. It just seems strange to me that someone would mention "his wife" in as many posts as he does. Check the logs of his if you want to know what I am talking about...

I am not faulting something or someone like this, but I think when you keep mentioning a girl (wife or not) in that many posts when including her is irrelevant to the topic, well you start to sound like half a man.

That is just my take on it. No offense intended really.

And what is a "real" man then? You?
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No envy at all. It just seems strange to me that someone would mention "his wife" in as many posts as he does. Check the logs of his if you want to know what I am talking about...

I am not faulting something or someone like this, but I think when you keep mentioning a girl (wife or not) in that many posts when including her is irrelevant to the topic, well you start to sound like half a man.

I have known couples like that, who are "joined at the hip," so to speak. They just really are so close to each other that they can't imagine doing things apart, want to be together most of the time, and just really enjoy each other and always being close. When they are separate and seeing new sights, then they think of how they will describe all the new things and are eager to talk to their spouse and tell her/him about it. When they think about their opinion on a subject, it is always with "what would she/he think," in their mind as they form their opinion. They are two different people, but in many ways, operate as one larger entity.

I don't see anything wrong with that. There were times with my ex when everything was going along every smoothly, that our relationship approached that level and maybe even a few seasons when we hit that level. Then, I never imagned that we could ever divorce. I didn't imagine that a time would come when I felt lost in the entity I had become a half of, and could not even remember who the real, the separate me was. That was a little scary.

But for some people, things just continue to go along smoothly, getting even better maybe. They are secure in who they are, and happy to be part of the bigger thing of both of them.

Nothing wrong with that! If it makes you happy, then what could be better?

Maybe that doesn't work for you, Steven. Or for me anymore. But I experienced enough of it to know that when it is working, it can be a wonderful thing for two people.

Sometimes, when you criticize something you don't understand, your criticism just doesn't hold water, because, since you don't understand it, you really don't know what you are talking about!
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Come on, now your sounding like half a man. You can tell someone there are pussy whipped then say "no offense". Of course you are being offensive, so just own up to it.

There are many guys in this thread talking about their wives, girlfriends, play friends. Most of us have one. And when it involves safety, damn straight they will be in our thoughts. That's part of being a full man.

Get off your pedestal and once again (as usual) stop putting words in my mouth.

1. Where did I use the term "pussy whipped"?
2. Maybe I should have used the term "half person". OK, I will own up to that one.
3. I said look at his older posts and in the aggregate, yet you focused on this one only.

Why, in your somewhat limited mind, do you equate a critical post as being an offensive one? Maybe you have tunnel vision and cannot see the difference. Either way, get off your horse. Oh, and clean up your spelling errors...
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Get off your pedestal and once again (as usual) stop putting words in my mouth.

1. Where did I use the term "pussy whipped"?
I summed up several of your posts. Strongly implied three times:
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unless you are nada without her....
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3. I said look at his older posts and in the aggregate, yet you focused on this one only.

Cause I'm staying on topic. For this topic, what dBaron is writing is also on topic. You are way off topic. You should do your bashing on another thread.

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Why, in your somewhat limited mind, do you equate a critical post as being an offensive one?
You are the one that brought up the "no offense" thing.

So what gives you the right to be critical of dBaron and his wife's relationship?

If dBaron and his wife are tight, have a great relationship, and she is in his thoughts, well lots of people that would be jealous for something similar.

Again your "critical post" is way off topic.

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Maybe you have tunnel vision and cannot see the difference. Either way, get off your horse. Oh, and clean up your spelling errors...

You just picked the wrong thread for your latest rant.
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Come on guys, cool it down. Don't get personal, there's more important things in life.

Let's also remember the topic here.

I live in Kamala too, not in a gated enclave either and I ride a m/bike. I keep my eyes open and try and stay away from any possible trouble. As said previously I usually drive with a purpose and try and stay away from trouble, not that I can really say say I've seen any.

I guess everywhere will undoubtedly have it's bad side, but hopefully we don't meet it.
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How happy I am to be safe in Sydney now and not in crime riddled Kamala!

Too fcuking cold & rainy here for the muggers to be out ...
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Ah, you have a wife you do say? Do you have a mind of your own though? You seem to mention the "wife" quite a bit, but does she mention you as much as you do on her forums?

Approximately 60% of your posts mentions "your wife". I can see that it is great that you include her in your decision making, but I am not quite clear as to why you have to mention her 60% of the time in your posts, unless you are nada without her....

Okay.
I have sat back and not commented after you slagging off me and my wife and now it is time for me to comment about your crap opinions.
I do have a mind of my own Tinyman. In fact my wife follows what I say in almost every way. As for forums she does not subscribe to any at all as she does not use the computer very much at all and is not a member of one.
I mention her often because we have been together since 1980 and are not only lovers but best mates and we do every thing together when we are not working. When you have a relationship like ours you do everything together and when not around one another life is not the same in terms of excitement.
You might have your mates but they are different to a real lover and mate as at the end of the night you go your own ways. to have the fun my wife and I have each and every day you can only be jealous of as I am sure you are after posting such comments. You will be waiting some time for a companion as you are a loser and not capable of having a long term relationship with the attitude you portray.

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Guys, there is no need to start flaming each other on the forum. This is not the place.

Steve (Tanman), I think maybe you made a bit of an error commenting on the relationship of dbaron and his wife. Unless you have been married yourself, I don't think you are qualified to make those statements.

Can we drop the arguing please and stick to the subject.
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