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03-10-2007, 14:33
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restless in rawai
Cut and paste from `stickmanbangkok`
I’m not sleeping that well. I wake up at all hours of the night. Sometimes when I am wide awake I get up, put my clothes on at four or five in the morning and have breakfast. I figure, what difference does it make what time I go to bed or get up. I’m retired and I am not going anywhere. I don’t even leave the house that much anymore. So, I’m lying in bed and it’s 3:30 in the morning and I can’t sleep. Down here in Phuket, the bars in Rawai, Kata and Karon close at one o’clock. I had heard about this open-air bar near Nai Harn Beach that does not even get started until after one AM and stays open until six in the morning. Who can stay up that late? But I was awake and I thought that I would check it out. By the time I get to Nai Harn it’s almost four in the morning and I’m thinking, I must be crazy, the place will be closed up tight.’ I turn the corner, spot the bar and all I can see are arms in the air, everyone dancing, music blasting. There’s an attendant in the street, trying to direct traffic. I locate a parking spot and squeeze into the bar, a waitress finds a stool for me someplace, I order a drink and look around. I didn’t realize there were so many young Westerners here. I refuse to use the F’ word at all anymore, especially in conversation. It’s degrading. Lots of Thai girls are here too. They must float over this way when the bars and massage parlors close. Everyone seems to be younger than me and then I think, hell, I could say that anywhere. Not to be deterred, I wave over a girl and she completely ignores me. I keep looking and an attractive girl comes over. Would you like a drink?’ I say. Yes, a Heineken. Can I have one for my girlfriend?’ Typical Thai bargirl stuff but I say yes. Her girlfriend stays where she is. She looks quiet and shy, unlike the one that has just sat on my lap and the beer hasn’t even arrived yet. We start kissing and making out. Everyone is oblivious, no one cares. I want you to come home with me tonight.’ I say. I can not tonight but I will come to your house tomorrow.’ I give her my card and she tells me her name is New. I no want short time. I want to stay with you long time,’ she says. I want to live with you. We just come today. She points to her girlfriend. Where’s your suitcase?’ No have.’ It’s amazing I think, how these girls come down here on a wing and a prayer, no money in their pocket. I say to her. Let’s see how it goes tomorrow and then we can talk.’ I know the girl has not just fallen off a cabbage truck as her English is pretty good. I start to look for another suspect and she goes back to her girlfriend. I stay until six in the morning and by this time it’s broad daylight out. The bar efficiently and quickly wraps it up and I drive home wondering how much it costs to be the only bar in town open after hours. A cash pay-out to the local cops of course and by the amount of people there in off-season it looks like they can afford it. The girl calls at eight the next evening, tells me that she has just started working as a waitress in a bar not far from my house and can I come over for a drink. I go over and sit at a table with her girlfriend from last night. The poor girl looks like this is the last place in the world that she wants to be. New comes over and asks what I want to drink. As I order, an older Thai woman sits down. Excuse me, girl just start tonight, I must explain duties to her.’ I shrug my shoulders, I could care less, but I wonder what the poor scared looking girl is doing here, unlike New who looks like she has been around the block before. New tells me that since she is just a waitress, I can not bar fine her out but she will come to my house after work at one in the morning. Okay by me. I finish my drink and leave. At one in the morning the phone rings. I have to stay and clean the bar, I will be over at two.’ This is Thai-speak for I’m going to do a fast short time before I see you. I don’t care, I can’t sleep anyway. New does not show and after a few hours I go to bed about three. I’m just getting to sleep when the phone rings, it’s New. Before I come, I just want to make sure you will pay me two-thousand.’ I’m tired by now and this price is way over the limit. I say never mind and hang up. The phone rings exactly every hour until I shut it off. New calls the next day. Can I come over.’ No thanks,’ I hang up. The phone keeps ringing. I don’t answer it. I have cards printed with my name address, phone and email. It’s so much easier to give it to the Thai Airways clerk or whoever needs your address, say if you buy a new television and have it delivered. But I really should have more discretion when I hand these out to people. A few hours later, New shows up at my front gate on the back of a motorbike driven by a Thai man about thirty years old, looks a little on the rough side. There’s a cement block fence around my house with a wrought iron gate. I always keep it locked. But I’m not worried about the man, I have a full time live-in guard. You owe me two-thousand baht,’ says New. I smile and say, Why?’ Although I can see already that this may be nothing to smile about. You say I can make you boom-boom and then you say no. You must pay me.’ I turn to walk away and the Thai guy starts to shout at me. My German shepherd who was sitting there quietly and is about the size of a small pony goes nuts and tries to eat the guy through the gate. The man hollers at me in Thai. It’s difficult to hear what anyone is saying as Louke is roaring now and sounds more like a bear than a dog. The girl says to me, My friend says if you don’t pay you will have a problem.’ The guy is about my size. Up to him,’ I say and I nod my head in his direction, look right at him. Damn if someone is going to come to my house and intimidate me. I know he is not jumping over the fence right now, that’s for sure. At one time I lived next door to a small shop that repaired long tail boats. There was a piece of steel drive-shaft about four feet long on the ground. It looked like left over scrap but was the perfect size for me. I pointed to it and asked the price. Five-hundred. Jeeze we all must look stupid. I threw the guy two one-hundred baht bills and took it home with me. There was this Italian weight-lifter guy a few years back, trying to find me because I went out with his girl.’ Yeah, right. Me and half of Phuket but somehow he settled on me. He was way too big to fight, way too big. But if it came to me getting a beating or him having some old Thai lady spoon feed him oatmeal everyday because of a brain injury, it was not a difficult choice in my mind. Luckily for everyone he and his girl’ kissed and made up and that was the end of the story but I still have the steel drive-shaft leaning against the inside wall near my front door. I have iron bar in my house. Man come over fence, I break his head.’ Many men come. I kill them.’ I am reduced to speaking in broken English to the man and woman at my front gate. My dog listens well and I order him in the house and walk away. I keep my dog in the house with me in case anyone wants to throw poisoned meat over the fence. I have not seen the girl or the man in a week and I am starting to relax but I decide to go to the bar where New works to assure her that if anything happens to my dog I will kill her and the man. I really mean this, run them down in my car. I’m not kidding. Thankfully she has long disappeared. Welcome to Thailand.
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03-10-2007, 14:44
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I'm in 2 minds, whether to feel sorry for the guy or not?.......He seems to be a guy that can take care of himself.....But nevertheless this is one drama you don't need in ya life.
Like...Hello....what kinda person would give a bg he has just met, a business card with all his numbers etc on it, plus his home address?  EDIT.. I suppose my last sentence may sound strange.....I suppose if he was to have done the biz with the bg, she'd know his home address anyways? Most of my expat mates, would just be getting a st room somewhere. (Mind you....they have their own reasons for this!!) Last edited by easyrider_au : 03-10-2007 at 15:07. Reason: more info
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03-10-2007, 16:57
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Same potential situation for anyone living here I suppose.
I haven't got a dog and live on a 'so-called' secure estate but 'Lurker' still made it to my front door at 0315 hours the other week. I do have the Ping Pro-Shot 'Peacemaker' three wood close to hand but if they had a gun then I'd be fcuked. Let's hope it doesn't come to that but I can see how sometimes circumstances would lead to somekind of confrontation. Money! Simple as that! If you have never had any, it's amazing what you will do to get some.
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03-10-2007, 22:55
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Interesting story. Defuse the situation and save face or risk a broken face. If he just said to New Ok..come in for Boom Boom and then I will pay you the two thousand he might have saved himself a lot of trouble. She gets her money, he gets screwed but still saves face by not folding into extortion and he can walk away learning from his mistake.
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03-10-2007, 23:18
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and they say romance is dead
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04-10-2007, 00:08
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I think its a slim chance she would go back on that boom boom deal, when she brought a guy over to threaten him. I think he did the right thing. Safe or not, someone needs to tell people like that to fukc off. If we all pay our way out of situations we will have more of those.
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04-10-2007, 01:43
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I guess that is the downside of living in a quiet place like Rawai. One nightclub and one afterhour place and that is it. If you piss somebody off they will find you, with or without business card.....
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04-10-2007, 10:52
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Thats not a nice thing to be caller her now is it ?? Do you have to tip security to let her through or what ??
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04-10-2007, 11:41
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l would imagine Witney would be able to deal with anything a Security Guard threw at her
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04-10-2007, 12:59
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LOL.. Pobably catch it and throw it right back..
I would guess (s)hes a pitcher and a catcher 
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04-10-2007, 13:06
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Yeah and two of our three security guards are girls anyway, the guy would probably throw a handful of rice at them, thats all he ever seems to do is eat all day!!!!
This guy though was no newbie, he had a house, with dog and guard, I think right or wrong you make the call on the situation and go with what feels right at the time. Agree with MT you simply pay up and it will escalate, she'll do it to others. I kind of just think it goes with the territory and am sort of used to these kind of situations now, they seem to crop up about once or twice a year.
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04-10-2007, 17:56
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More Stickman Negativity
Has Stickman ever said anything good about Phuket????
 If it is true then this guy's story is a sad case.A bit of a no brainer giving out his card.He is nice and safe behind his fence with his dog but he has to go shopping sometime.He has drawn some unwanted attention and should not escallate it. 
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04-10-2007, 18:01
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Can`t help myself thinking that this guy has a bit of an attitude-problem?
Reminds me a bit of a guy I used to have contact with last year in the same area.....  !!!Fair deal that he told the girl to feck off over her 2000 baht scheme ,though  !!
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04-10-2007, 20:26
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I know what you guys are saying about paying. But for a negotiated 1,000 baht this could be solved and he could ENJOY living there NOT IN FEAR. Could be 500 if he invited the guy in for a beer and chat. Everyone saves face and is happy happy.
If shit did happen, it will cost a lot more than that to solve. Not fair? Maybe but he is out playing the game in a 3rd world country while living in his big gated house with live-in security. Personally I think he did a lot more than what is written in this dumb story. Not mr. innocent.
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04-10-2007, 20:58
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Pay once and they will be back.. Paying (except perhaps part paying a girl to leave if things are going badly) just makes you a mark for the next time they are low on beer money.
Tho the OP does sound like its from someone who gets in more scrapes than he needs to.
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04-10-2007, 21:44
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By doing this you are basically saying that what they did is acceptable and as LiL rightly said when times are hard they'll come back again because in their eyes you are an easy target. May as well get 'MUG' tattooed on your forehead so every other Thai in the village knows you're a soft touch.... 
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04-10-2007, 22:01
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It is the same as a traffic accident. Technically you may be correct, but it could just be a lot easier to drop some baht and have it go away.
But I don't really get the logic here. By not paying, the guy is saying he still feels like a target and is basically living in fear. But you guys are saying it is bad to pay because you are a target. No reason to think they will be back once the issue is resolved. This isn't some hardcore mafia. Just a cranky BG and some big lug she found. So easy to turn the situation around. So really how is not paying better? Trying to take a western stand on principles in thailand isn't aways the smartest action locally. Clearly this dispute was over one particular instance which he is choosing to not resolve. he is now paying a different price.
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04-10-2007, 22:11
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I get what your saying but dissagree.. Theres a line and being extorted (by some amateur idiot and a bar brass) is one where I wont cross..
Also I think there different things not the same 'target' one is a fear for personal safety, being the target of a physical attack, the other is being a patsy and being the target of scams and ripoffs.. So which target do you prefer ?? Without wanting to sound like a knuckledragger I will take the (minor) physical threat over being someones idiot farang they can squeeze a few baht out of any time they feel like.. Let them do it once and it will never stop, by paying you fail the pushover test.
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04-10-2007, 22:17
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As you rightly said its not mafia related and anyone with any sense would know that after a few days its water under the bridge and they are onto their next victim from the same bar. Its not a western principle its a stand anyone with any balls would take when knowing they are getting ripped off. Nobody wants trouble when living in Thailand but similarly the majority are not going to get walked over and made to look a tw@t !!
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04-10-2007, 22:52
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Agree here ... OP's closing comment '.......if anything happens to my dog I will kill her and the man. I really mean this, run them down in my car. I’m not kidding.' I hope this guy mellows out ... seems to lack something in the karma department.
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04-10-2007, 22:53
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