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23-04-2008, 05:09
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Car/Motorbike Batteries
Two days ago, talked with my "Little Thai lady" 55555.
She told me that her "car no start". And, she had the local village "mechanic guy" look at it. He told her the battery was "done", then he put a charger on it for a few hours, to get her on her way. Now, the car is less than 2 years old...and I thought that it was a bit early, for a battery to die. I looked through "Thai Visa" and found that a replacement battery for a Toyota should probably last for around 2 years. And, cost in the area of 1500thb. (Sh1te battery's in LOS, I guess) She took the car to the Toyota dealer, and wound up paying 2450thb, for a replacement. They said, "last fall the cost was 1700thb...but now it is more expensive". ????? Inflation at quite a rate! Anyone offer any information regarding this? And also any info, with regards to motorbike battery replacement? Thanks. Last edited by pablo : 23-04-2008 at 06:23. 
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23-04-2008, 05:15
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Last motorbike battery I bought was 600 Baht, out of the box and fitted. He also greased the chain, cleaned the bike and tightened the brakes....without me asking him to! All for 600. That was about a month ago Pabs.
Think Bernie bought a new battery for the Chevvy a while ago! Not sure!
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23-04-2008, 07:06
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For some reason I have bought more batteries here that I would have deemed possible.. Partly I guess cos I buy toys and they dont get used daily, partly cos I have had some bangers, but there must be something for them being crap too.
On my car and bikes I am keeping I now always buy the sealed gel batteries. Last one I had to change was 2k ish for a liquid and 3.5k for a 3 year warranty gel battery.. That was late last year.
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23-04-2008, 07:10
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Hmmmm??? If it lasts that long, it would be worth it.
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23-04-2008, 08:53
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I bought 6 truck batteries for a boat last year cost 30,000 baht. The boat had a bit of an accident and I had to replace them this year, cost 37,500 so the price for batteries has gone up sharply in 6 months.There is a shop in Phuket town that sells genuine Yuasa batteries which most Japanese bikes have fitted as standard and are cheaper than anywhere else on the island.
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23-04-2008, 09:04
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Slightly OT, but the price of car batteries here in Oz have gone up in the past 6 mths too.
My battery man is justifying the price rise, tellin me it's cos lead has gone up in price????? I replaced my WR 450's battery 2 weeks ago...comparative price here in Oz, with trade discount....2,200b.....Shitty Chinese aftermarket type. I have found Yuasa to be the best in motorbike batteries over the yrs.
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23-04-2008, 10:29
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yes, i agree, just make sure you check them (water levels) the same time you ( if you do ) check your oil levels 
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23-04-2008, 11:52
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Bought a car battery 11 months ago and that replaced the original battery, which I suppose was a couple of years old at that time. The guy told me it was because I had not kept an eye on the water levels in the battery and because of the humidity, they evaporate at a faster rate than UK. So, looked after the water rates on the new battery and it only lasted 11 months.
Can't remember its cost but new one from Chevvy on call out was 3,800 baht, was wearing my sucker farang tee shirt that morning and needed to be somewhere, so didn't think about the price until now!!! Reckon getting dry cell battery must be best option, no need to look under the bonnet and seen them guaranteed (guaranteed???? yeah right) for so many years, but more expensive, well more expensive than normal batteries not Dodger ripped off price batteries!!!
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23-04-2008, 12:06
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Had similar battery problems and both Honda and Toyota changed about the same (1800 Baht) last year for new batteries - now keep a closer eye on water levels - distilled water like 10 Baht at Lotus - need to top up ~ 6-8 weeks it seems.
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23-04-2008, 12:10
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I also replaced my battery last year, think it was 1800 and additional 100 baht for delivery and replace work.
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23-04-2008, 17:37
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This is a bit OT ,but I was wondering if anybody had tried any of the
battery Desulfator devices on the market? If the battery has crapped out because the plates are furry then these circuits might help recover it... Low Power Desulfator Info Lead Acid Battery Desulfation - Message Board - Yuku
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23-04-2008, 19:29
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In uk I used to get these pep pills (not those ones.. Well.. As well as those ones).. for batts..
Think they were called batt aids.. You could get some cruddy 2 year dead batter thats sat out in a wreckers yard and pop these things in, they would fizz and bubble.. and pretty much put life back in it.. Just as long as the plates were not warped and touching..
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24-04-2008, 06:23
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Car battery`s have gone up in price all over the world , due to the replacement of the lead plates , into something else [environment]
Due to the warm /hot environment in LOS , the cells don't charge up completely , As the dynamo doesnt have to work that hard in a warm climate [The dynamo is coupled to your central car computer [ecu] nowadays] best thing to with a new car battery is the same as with a mobile phone/ digital camera etc. buy a new one , discharge it , then place in your car , start your car again .go out for a ride 2 hours or-so have all lights /aircon on , and the ECU will charge with 16v instead of the normal 13,8 v this will give you an extra year or 2 on the battery if you use the car daily , always have your lights on , ! and not just for safety! !!!!!!!!!!!don't forget , most car`s have some car stereo / GPS / alarm /central locking / ecu controlled windows and so on , !!!!!!!!!!! so when replacing the battery , you will have to re-install these functions! BIG PS!!! I will not be responsible for any damages , what-so-ever!!!!!
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24-04-2008, 09:36
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24-04-2008, 10:44
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I thought the same Mr. Soupdragon.
Lead-Acid types are a different beast than lithium, or (as I'm more experienced with) Nickel-Cadmium battery's. Part of normal maintenance with the "Nicad" battery, is performing a "deep cycle"...as described by ThaiKwanDo. (completed discharge and recharge) Don't know much about these newfangled ECU's, but TKD says that they are now coupled with generators (oops dynamo's), and other car functions. (and he's in the biz) As a side note: I heard a rumor that the B777 that landed short at Heathrow may have had electronic interference with his "electronic fuel control units". The rumor was, that HRM The Queen and entourage were passing nearby the approach area at that time. Possible electronic jamming, security stuff, etc. Sorry to hijack my thread...back to the battery's. 555555  Last edited by pablo : 24-04-2008 at 10:46.
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24-04-2008, 10:57
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2-3 years seems to be the average out here Pablo. I've got a sealed one at the moment- will let you know when it dies. I went to a reputable spares place ( yes they do exist!) in Phuket town and the cost was about B1800. As with anyhwere in the world go the the dealership and you'l pay a premium. Tilak probably could have got it cheaper but there you go.
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24-04-2008, 14:16
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Part of what I used to do as a living Pabs. Regularly headed to Heathrow and other major airports on the arrival of dignatries and had the lads set up a 1Kw Jammer on the back of a Bedford. Ground to air 'guided' missile attack but, as you say, played havoc with the aircraft and ATC as well...............Oops! Had quite a few aircraft stacked at Manchester once...........Can't remember our record for pilots p1ssed off in one day. I'd love to tell you more about the 'other' stuff we used to get up in London and Northern Ireland too! But there is a man in a black cloak outside my apartment with a biggish 9mm lump under his left armpit moving his finger from side to side.............Bloody official secrets act...........I dunno! Anyway, thread on track............We had some fcukin' hoooooooge batteries!
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24-04-2008, 14:41
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I wouldn't at all be surprised, if this scenario (B777 Heathrow) were the truth. In fact, I had mentioned this possibility to a friend, following the crash. My expectation however, was that it could have been some "bad guys" doing it intentionally. (osama bin who...) I would never have dreamed, that Her Majesty and lads could be the culprits. 55555 The same fears of "electronic interference" with some of the "new" aircraft technologies (electronic system controllers), led to the initial ban of cellphone usage on commercial flights. Even police now, are testing "jamming" devices...to shutdown automobile motors, during police pursuits. We have strange things happen here in Las Vegas on occasion, as well. I remember a couple of years ago, my electronic garage door opener AND my remote key opener (for my car), went on the blink! Strange coincidence? I drove to the auto dealership, to have the battery checked on my remote key. The man just pushed a copy of a page, from the afternoon newspaper over the counter to me. (He had plasticized it, to save it from tearing) The news read, that over 100,000 people in the valley had suffered mysterious failures of garage door opener's and remote keys, overnight. 55555  At least I wasn't alone. Nor, had the car dealer been, apparently. 5555 At first I thought that it might be an Nimitz class Aircraft Carrier, sailing through Lake Mead on it's way down the Colorado River. But that idea turned out to be somewhat flawed. 5555 I then, chocked it up to some arriving or departing (secret) flight from Nellis Air Force Base (outskirts of town) and the possibility of inadvertent activation of some secret "ray beam". Or, who knows what the boys at "Area 51" are ever up to????? (  music from Twilight Zone here... )There's just a lot of strange sh1t going on out there! OK, back to battery's. 555555
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24-04-2008, 23:22
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25-04-2008, 04:15
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Ay an we know where ye children go to school an we know where ye wife works.............B'stids. Just as a nice white haired old lady gave us a cup of tea with ground glass in it............Lovely days! I do miss it! But I know my wife had a vibrator while I was away and...........(Getting the thread back on track).................That had batteries!
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25-04-2008, 05:50
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Those ones are rubbish apparently! The ones the ladies 'really' like are mains opperated. Or that what my ex-ex said. O thought there was a problem with car batterys due to the hike in some metals price. Bloddy Asians, piss me off with there need to improve their lifes!
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29-04-2008, 15:27
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A little research (IJ would be proud of me) shows that the spot cash price for Lead rose from:USD $ 1010.50 per tonne in July 2006 to USD$ 3462.50 per tonne in July 2007 around the time the lead/acid battery manufacturers were securing supplies for todays batteries.
This huge price increase is caused by huge demand from China for the manufacture of (you guessed it!) LEAD/ACID BATTERIES. Why do I know this? Because I wanted to waste some of the 31 Days Left before i take off for LOS. IMHO the use of distilled water regularly; sandpapering the terminals and cable brackets regularly after using bicarb soda mixture to remove acid deposit build- up will greatly prolong the life of your batteries. Boring maintenance I know but it will keep you off the pizs for a few minutes (or teach the missus how to do it).
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