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04-10-2004, 15:01
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To live in Thailand
What kinds of things do you need to do, or have, to live in Thailand.
What kind of jobs are available to farang?
Is it even possible to live in Thailand if your not married to a local?
I only ask coz I have been there at least 10 times over the last few years, just got out of the U.S. Air Force, and would love to live there for a little while.
Any info would be appreciated!!!!!!!!
(BTW I'm new to the forums!!! Nice to chat with you guys!!!)
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Need much more info..
How old are you.. Over 50's can retire here if you show 800k in the bank...
Under 50's generally have a much tougher time having to play the visa run game or getting by with multiple tourist visa's.. Both of which are getting tougher but in Thailand there is nearly always a way...
Married to a Thai you only need to show 400k in the bank and can get the visa at any age...
Working gets tougher.. Usually the jobs for farangs are ones you make yourself, starting your own business etc. Contact someone like sunbelt asia or indo siam for solid legal advice.
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.. Over 50's can retire here if you show 800k in the bank...
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Have I to show the amount on a Thai bank?
When I retire in Thailand for an over 50 ´s what have I to do?
Get I a visa for more than 3 month?
You gave me new perspectives 
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For a non immigrant 0 visa you can show 800k in the bank or a certified income (pension etc) of 65k per month or a combo of the two (say 400k and 35k income)..
You then get a 1 year non imm O and merely have to report to the local immigration office every 90 days to do an alien report card. Next your prove the assets again and its extended.
Over 50's have it easy.
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For a non immigrant 0 visa you can show 800k in the bank or a certified income (pension etc) of 65k per month or a combo of the two (say 400k and 35k income)..
You then get a 1 year non imm O and merely have to report to the local immigration office every 90 days to do an alien report card. Next your prove the assets again and its extended.
Over 50's have it easy.
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Dumb question - When you say 800K are you talking baht or US$???
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04-10-2004, 16:33
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Dumb question - When you say 800K are you talking baht or US$???
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I believe thats in baht!!!
Also I'm only 28!!! LOL
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04-10-2004, 16:41
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I believe thats in baht!!!
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Yes it is baht.
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04-10-2004, 17:52
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STEVEM,
Do you have any idea why the requirements for over 50's to live in Thialand are so reasonable?
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04-10-2004, 18:13
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STEVEM,
Do you have any idea why the requirements for over 50's to live in Thialand are so reasonable?
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Because they want to attract the retirees, as they believe these are good people to have around. Not like the young and the reckless.
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04-10-2004, 18:44
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For STEVEM
Hmm, might make some enquiries next time I am over there. I am a fan of Kamala and am looking for a place to drop out. Will be over there for a couple of weeks this month. It is so easy to organise everything from Oz that it only took me 1 day from when I decided to go again to set everything up. I have a Norwegian friend who owns a guest house in Kamala and he is a very happy man.
Are you happy over there?
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04-10-2004, 20:33
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I believe thats in baht!!!
Also I'm only 28!!! LOL
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Heheeeee
Very interesting - I change my paspor in Indonesia tommorow for 51 years old and the day after of to the Thai embassy in Sillypore.
This is really good news to hear.
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so as long as you can show you have say £11,000 in bank account over 50 you can retire to LOS,
hell better not tell the old dad that otherwise i can see my inheritance going over sea`s in January lmbo
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Can anyone get me some fake I.D to say i`m 51??
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Can get you an Indonesian paspor for between 1-2 million Rupiah (Including IC card) or 180-370 Singapore dollars.
BTW this is the serious price and can be done (I'm sure my Interpol rating just got worse - If thats possible  )
Only problem is you would have to become Mohammad SafeAs - But if you don't mind then nobody minds 
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Our these numbers for real? If you only have 800k baht that is around 20k US$. My question is how in the fock are you going to live on 20k?? What would that seriously last you? I would bet you could not even come close to living half a year on that little nest egg. I do not think there will be a huge wave of horny retired dudes running to LOS with 20k in their pockets!  Although it would be nice!!!
Would be an awesome place to retire but I think we need to get a little more solid numbers to be sure what the specifications are.
Any body got some more info...
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Thats to prove that you have it each year.. And yes you can easily live on 800k per year including home GF car bikes internet etc...
I know many people living on 20 - 30k per month (500 - 750) I could not but many do.. Even to live in a villa with pool can be done at not much more...
Also Phuket is (along with BKK) pretty much the most expensive place in Thailand.
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Plan to retire to Phuket in18 months. Will spend 6 months there 6 months in Oz. I have TGF but am interested to know what they expect from you if you are in a pemanent relationship with them.
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Mine get to sleep in a room with AC
Then again I always was the generous sort..
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I too would be keen to learn what kind of weekly/monthly "pocket money" a TGF would expect to get.
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very hard to say because it depends totally on
A) How much the girl wants to be with you
B) What dependants the girl has (Kids / Sick mother / Thai Boyfriend)
C) How long she has been in the scene and if she likes it
D) How much of a stunner she is and how much she makes now
E) How well you treat her as a GF
F) Do you expect and give fidelity !!
Lets say that at a minimum she will need to cover costs (keeping her own room, basic life etc) and does not move in with you permantly (keep the room.. its worth it.. I PROMISE you) you would be needing to look at min of 8 - 10k per month.
As a more normal figure so she can send some money to momma, get some clothes and shoes, keep some face and have some money in her pocket to buy her mates the odd drink, if your not 25 with a 6 pack (not the carry out kind) 15k per month is normal and not really abusing you.
This is assuming they are not moved in totally and permantly and so have a running room cost of (guesswork shared room and rented TV) of 3k or so... Maybe renting a motorbike or other fixed costs. Numbers would be adjusted if she has none of these fixed costs or you take care of them directly and she becomes a full time live in girlfriend / wife with no room. Personally the room is the safety net and one that I advise should be kept for many months. Also once in a living together setup how much is for her and how much is housekeeping, does she pay off any bills or go to the market etc on money you have already given her ? Its easy to forget that she spends money on you if you dont see it, try to spot this and treat her accordingly.
You must also remember a absolute stunner may have 3 or 4 buffalo farang each sending 20k per month or so.. I have known some girls on 100k baht before they even worked a night simply cause they were good at finding fools and spinning thier magic on them. A girl like this who has been in the scene for a while is a much harder traget to pin a cost on, are they being honest with you, do they have other sponsers, does she enjoy her time with you or is she working you. All those are tough questions that dont get easy (or honest) answers not only from her but from yourself, look in the mirror and ask does she like me for me or does she like me for my money or the lifestyle I am giving her ?? Now wonder if you believe the answer  I think this factor alone is why many of the long termers / expats will be looking for a less hardened girl for long term relationships, they will expect less and give more and leave you in less personal doubt.
Any girl that 'demands' money to stay with you should be axed from the list.. Shows a mentaility to drain you from the outset and starts the relationship badly. Theres plenty of sweet girls that will work away at you without demanding anything directly.
In a long term relationship I think its better to get the money thing sorted and clear.. Then have that allowance dealt out (though not in one chunk as the month will be spent in a week) and clear that thats all, not an allowance and drip drain system also. Easy to say and tough to do.
Any hocking of jewellry and or phones etc stay hocked until the next pocket money date etc. No need to be hard or cruel just firm and clear, many of these girls need a little education in fiscal responsibilty and getting them to live in a non hand to mouth way and budgeting is actually good for them (I know that sounds patronizing as hell but it is true)..
This conversation and topic can be discussed after a couple of weeks to a month if things are going well.
Damn that was much more than I intended to write... Complete financial HOWTO there...
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very hard to say because it depends totally on
A) How much the girl wants to be with you
B) What dependants the girl has (Kids / Sick mother / Thai Boyfriend)
C) How long she has been in the scene and if she likes it
D) How much of a stunner she is and how much she makes now
E) How well you treat her as a GF
F) Do you expect and give fidelity !!
Lets say that at a minimum she will need to cover costs (keeping her own room, basic life etc) and does not move in with you permantly (keep the room.. its worth it.. I PROMISE you) you would be needing to look at min of 8 - 10k per month.
As a more normal figure so she can send some money to momma, get some clothes and shoes, keep some face and have some money in her pocket to buy her mates the odd drink, if your not 25 with a 6 pack (not the carry out kind) 15k per month is normal and not really abusing you.
This is assuming they are not moved in totally and permantly and so have a running room cost of (guesswork shared room and rented TV) of 3k or so... Maybe renting a motorbike or other fixed costs. Numbers would be adjusted if she has none of these fixed costs or you take care of them directly and she becomes a full time live in girlfriend / wife with no room. Personally the room is the safety net and one that I advise should be kept for many months. Also once in a living together setup how much is for her and how much is housekeeping, does she pay off any bills or go to the market etc on money you have already given her ? Its easy to forget that she spends money on you if you dont see it, try to spot this and treat her accordingly.
You must also remember a absolute stunner may have 3 or 4 buffalo farang each sending 20k per month or so.. I have known some girls on 100k baht before they even worked a night simply cause they were good at finding fools and spinning thier magic on them. A girl like this who has been in the scene for a while is a much harder traget to pin a cost on, are they being honest with you, do they have other sponsers, does she enjoy her time with you or is she working you. All those are tough questions that dont get easy (or honest) answers not only from her but from yourself, look in the mirror and ask does she like me for me or does she like me for my money or the lifestyle I am giving her ?? Now wonder if you believe the answer  I think this factor alone is why many of the long termers / expats will be looking for a less hardened girl for long term relationships, they will expect less and give more and leave you in less personal doubt.
Any girl that 'demands' money to stay with you should be axed from the list.. Shows a mentaility to drain you from the outset and starts the relationship badly. Theres plenty of sweet girls that will work away at you without demanding anything directly.
In a long term relationship I think its better to get the money thing sorted and clear.. Then have that allowance dealt out (though not in one chunk as the month will be spent in a week) and clear that thats all, not an allowance and drip drain system also. Easy to say and tough to do.
Any hocking of jewellry and or phones etc stay hocked until the next pocket money date etc. No need to be hard or cruel just firm and clear, many of these girls need a little education in fiscal responsibilty and getting them to live in a non hand to mouth way and budgeting is actually good for them (I know that sounds patronizing as hell but it is true)..
This conversation and topic can be discussed after a couple of weeks to a month if things are going well.
Damn that was much more than I intended to write... Complete financial HOWTO there...
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LIVINLOS, thanks for a very full reply. I was assuming that the term TGF implied living in. If she didn't live in I think she would assume that her own time was "up for graps" by any punter. If you wanted (and were prepared to give) complete loyalty I would have thought that live-in was the only way to go. The one I'm thinking of is not a BG(honest) and live -in would be the only way so I guess that would put her at the top end of your figures.
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Just broke up with my "Teelak"
We were together for two months and barring a Bangkok trip she was my exclusive and I assumed the same from her and we talked about it. I also gave her a generous allowance in the range LOS talked about. First thing she did was quit my friends bar. Moved to another room not sponsored by the bar and started working another bar on soi eric but "didn't go with customers" as she was always around to meet me after I got back to Patong after work.
The last week I give her the allowance, and she wants more, I reply that's what we agreed on and it's twice as much money as most of my employees at the restaurant make (wrong move). Anyhow that evening I don't get the usual call from her and I don't call her. I sleep alone. The next day she's calling and calling over and over, I don't answer, I'm mad at her. That night i'm sleeping alone forget to to lock my door and she comes in when I'm sleeping.
I wake up and she says why don't I answer her calls and I say she makes me sad. She asks why and I bluff and say I saw you "go with man" she then replies but he was old and it was only shortime.
It surprises me how these girls (not all) can just not have any loyalty to someone who took her and her friends to movies, give her money, take her shopping. And this is how she repays me.
Well I told her we can still be friends but she make me sad and I don't want to be with her and after that I haven't seen her or talked to her.
I wasn't in love so I'm not sad just a little disapointed. I was also getting bored banging just her as well (and maybe she got tired of me as well).
Thought I would share.
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Sorry to hear about your breakup, urtheman. Hope you will keep your spirit up despite the disappointment. I wish I can be there to buy your a drink instead of stuck here in this awful city surrounded by a bunch of hypocrites.
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We were together for two months and barring a Bangkok trip she was my exclusive and I assumed the same from her and we talked about it. I also gave her a generous allowance in the range LOS talked about. First thing she did was quit my friends bar. Moved to another room not sponsored by the bar and started working another bar on soi eric but "didn't go with customers" as she was always around to meet me after I got back to Patong after work.
The last week I give her the allowance, and she wants more, I reply that's what we agreed on and it's twice as much money as most of my employees at the restaurant make (wrong move). Anyhow that evening I don't get the usual call from her and I don't call her. I sleep alone. The next day she's calling and calling over and over, I don't answer, I'm mad at her. That night i'm sleeping alone forget to to lock my door and she comes in when I'm sleeping.
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