BG bank accounts

[Hobbsy]

Originally Posted by Hep

When I was in LOS the first time I stayed 5 days with the same girl. She was scheduled to go home to Khon Kaen where she lived during the period where I was there but I had her plane ticket changed. She left home for KK the same day I departed home to Denmark.

When I returned home we talked a bit over email and I did think she was a nice girl. She sent me some pictures of her everyday life in KK and for me it was interesting to talk and exchange views with a person from such a different culture. I did not have any intentions of bringing her back to Denmark with me but I did plan on seeing her again should I ever go to Khon Kaen.

After a couple of months she wrote me that she needed some money because a family member had died. I had of course read the numerous stories on this board about the “buffalo is sick” etc. but still I was really considering what to do. Basically the money wasn’t that big an issue for me and it wasn’t something that I would miss in my daily life. However, it was more the concept of sending her money that I was thinking about. As LIL and many of the others write here, why send money if you are not going to pursue a relationship or want to do “charity work”. Many people, especially in underdeveloped countries need the money more, so if I wanted to send money for charity purposes it would be better to send the money there. Take Pakistan after the earthquake. Millions of homes are destroyed and the winter is setting in soon. Prognosis state that maybe 100.000 people will die from the cold as they don’t have sleeping bags – 20.000 bath would do a world of difference there whereas it probably wouldn’t make a big difference to the Thai girl in question.

One thing is for sure though.. If I hadn’t read this board here and read about the “scams” to get money I would have sent them to her. Reading this board gave me some pointers and opened my eyes to the different way things work in LOS.

After a lot of consideration I decided not to send her money and wrote her that at this time I could not do it and I hoped she would understand. Well sure enough she understood and needles to say I did not receive any more emails from her.

At my first trip I also met this fantastic girl named Oi. Unfortunately she had already hooked up with an aussie guy but I got to know these guys and spent my vacation with them. I remember thinking “damn why didn’t I see her first” many times during my vacation. She was sweet, had a sense of humour and more importantly had a functioning brain.

I did not expect to see her again, but when I returned this time in November I ran into her again. She had just returned to Patong 2 days before me so that was damn good timing.

This girl has really gotten under my skin. I know she is a BG and I am aware of the fact that I did pay her money to stay with me. I am also fully aware of the fact that she is still in Patong right now doing her stuff. I am not too happy about that but that is the terms and I knew them to begin with.

Having said all that, there is no doubt that I want to see her more and the reason why I am coming back in January is simply to spend time with her. I want to see if this can lead anywhere good and if things turn out the way I hope, the next step is to get her a tourist visa to Denmark so she can come visit me here (if she wants to that is).

There is no doubt in my mind that if she wrote me now asking for financial aid I would send it to her straight away. Maybe I would end up loosing some money if I have misjudged her, but that is a chance I am willing to take.

What it all comes down too I guess, is that it is up to everyone self what they want to do with their money and that there is no “normal” scenario. It is different for everyone as we all have different backgrounds, morals and ethics.

One good thing about Crustasians post is that the many first timers to LOS that reads this will know that sponsoring a girl don’t necessarily mean that she is yours exclusively. I know I benefited a lot from similar posts prior to my first trip to LOS. If I hadn’t read this board I would have been a sitting duck in the many pitfalls in LOS for newbie’s.

As a personal opinion I do not consider the odd gift of money to help in situations that have arisen as 'sponsorship'.

At a guess I would say the 'average' sponsor is sending these girls 10k baht a month. I base this on what many girls have told me they are receiving.

So what I consider a sponsor (again personal opinion) is someone who is paying the girls a wage if you like (the amount is not important) in the hope that they will not need to work in a bar or freelance.

[dizbuster]

Originally Posted by Crustasian

Thanks guys for all your attention.I didn't do it to deliberately offend anyone but to provoke some lively debate.I am sorry Diz if it annoyed you so much...

Perhaps we can settle this like gentlemen ?? A few beers and a game of Connect 4 to decide the winner next time I'm in town ?? 55555

By the way, Billy Graham is also the name of boxer Ricky Hatten's trainer

[Hobbsy]

And there was SUPERSTAR BILLY GRAHAM the WWF (as it was then) wrestler!

[JayBee]

Originally Posted by Hep

One good thing about Crustasians post is that the many first timers to LOS that reads this will know that sponsoring a girl don’t necessarily mean that she is yours exclusively. I know I benefited a lot from similar posts prior to my first trip to LOS. If I hadn’t read this board I would have been a sitting duck in the many pitfalls in LOS for newbie’s.

Point well taken. For every guy, there is a day when he first learns that all is not neccesarily as it may seem at first. I think it is a discussion that we all have had before, and all will have again. Just one of those things! Yet for each one, there is a first time, when it may come as a stunning revelation! Or not.

Good luck with "your" girl!

[JayBee]

Originally Posted by Crustasian

Thanks guys for all your attention.I didn't do it to deliberately offend anyone but to provoke some lively debate.I am sorry Diz if it annoyed you so much.

To help you understand here is a brief pen picture of my life.

Discovered Patong in Jan 1989 and became a regular visitor until 1998 when I retired/got pensioned off and moved to Patong.During my early years I have done all the wrong things that a newbee can do.Once I took a second girl from the same bar as mine was "away" somewhere.Needless to say girl number one was not impressed.She threw a bar stool at me.Three holidays later the same woman attacked me in the Kangaroo bar at 4am.Once in Soi Crocodile a group of us were knocked off our bar stools by a drunken girl on a motorbike. The list goes on.
Then I got a little wiser and settled down to one girl who incidently was a pole dancer in Playschool.I never paid her anything when I went away and fully expected her to keep working.Even when I settled over here I still let her work in Playschool(in a reduced capacity - no doing ST or BJs) for a year or so.We then found a good bungalow and after 8 years we are still together.
I also know many other people who have met the girl of their dreams in a bar and eventually married them and raised kids.I am just an old cynic and I like to use my sarcasm to push home a point.

So,then, you're a real live person and not one of the Blue Meanies, after all.
You certainly did acomplish the goal of starting some lively debate!!

Thanks for sharing!!!

[faultytowers]

Originally Posted by JayBee

So,then, you're a real live person and not one of the Blue Meanies, after all.

He's definately not a Blue Meanie , more of an ex-Green Meanie.

Guess you won't be Santa this year , Crustasian.

[Denver]

Originally Posted by faultytowers

He's definately not a Blue Meanie , more of an ex-Green Meanie.

Guess you won't be Santa this year , Crustasian.

And I thought Crustasian was such a nice, quiet kind of chap too!! 55555555555555

[Tilley39]

Im in Los 2 times and have learned much from this forum, particularly this thread!
Thx,
Tilley

[andy50]

Originally Posted by Tilley39

Im in Los 2 times and have learned much from this forum, particularly this thread!
Thx,
Tilley

there you go diz--

[dizbuster]

Originally Posted by andy50

there you go diz--

Team effort

[ItsmeG]

I heard once:
Him send money-him boyfriend
Him not send-him customer

[JayBee]

Originally Posted by ItsmeG

I heard once:
Him send money-him boyfriend
Him not send-him customer

Likewise, a TG I know. She has a BF named Gideon, been together for years, and she is actually faithful to him, even tho he only gets to LOS once or twice a year. I used to drink with her a lot, and she would cry on my shoulder, "He not treat me good! He butterfly!" Her GFs all told her she ought to get a new BF. Her best friend would make faces, and say, "He no good." But she would tell me, "I can not help myself, because even though he hurts me, I love him too much." When some hopelessly romantic R&B love song was playing, she would say, "That is how I feel love for Gideon. I can not help myself!"

Last trip I go to see her, have a couple drinks. "How's Gideon?" "Oh, he not my BF anymore! Because he butterfly, and hurt my heart so much, then at last, I have to say it is too much pain, and tell him he not my BF anymore. He not good man. I should have ended with him long time ago. Finally I learn my lesson and tell him no more." Good for you , I said!

When I saw her again a month later, I say, "Got new BF yet?" She says, "Oh, now I am back with Gideon." Really, after all the heart ache he caused you with his butterfly ways, I asked. I thought it was over for good, I told her. She smiled, a big happy smile, and said, "Well, he start sending me money again!! Now I love him maak maak again!" That explained a lot to me about TGs!!

Here is the actual song I remember was playing when she started crying, and said that is how she feels about Gideon:

Oooooooooooooooh!
Sugar Pie, Honey Bunch
You know that I love you
I can't help myself
I love you and nobody else

In and out my life(in and out my life)
You come and you go(you come and you go)
Leaving just your picture behind....(ooh)
And I've kissed it a thousand times(ooh)
When you snap your finger, or wink you eye,
I come a-running to you
I'm tied to your apron strings,
And there's nothing that I can do

I can't help myself,
No, I can't help myself,

'Cause, Sugar Pie Honey Bunch
I'm weaker than a man should be
I can't help myself
I'm a fool in love 'ya see

Wanna tell you I don't love you,
Tell you that we're through
And I try....
But ev'ry time I see your face,
I get all choked up inside
When I call your name,
Girl, it starts to flame
Burning in my heart,
Tearing it all apart..
No matter how I try
My love I cannot hide....

'Cause Sugar Pie Honey Bunch
You know that I'm waiting for you(waiting for you)
I can't help myself
I love you and nobody else

Sugar Pie Honey Bunch
I'd do anything you ask me to(ask me to)
I can't help myself
I want you and nobody else

Sugar Pie, Honey Bunch
You know that I love you(I dooo)
I can't help myself...
No... I can't help myself

[nelsonone]

Originally Posted by JayBee

Sugar Pie, Honey Bunch
You know that I love you(I dooo)
I can't help myself...
No... I can't help myself

sung by.......The Buttercups.............

[crazyswede]

I don´t have my favorite loom´s bank account , sorry! :

Originally Posted by Crustasian

You liked your hotel room but I bet you don't send it any money!!

[Hobbsy]

i hope u cut'n'pasted those lyrics Jaybee and didn't sit there singing and writing them out.

[JayBee]

Originally Posted by Hobbsy

i hope u cut'n'pasted those lyrics Jaybee and didn't sit there singing and writing them out.

Cut and pasted, of course. But I do confess to singing a few bars along the way!

[Jazz]

Originally Posted by dizbuster

We're all adults and as such we do as we please, so having someone come on here and tell us not to do it gets my goat !! If he doesn't want to do it then that's up to him, but get off other people's backs. This is patronisation at it's worst as if someone is payinbg money then they will have thought about the consequences and we don't need "Billy Graham" to preach to us about therights and wrongs of it.

Was that clear enough ??

A little bit close to home eh

[faultytowers]

Originally Posted by Jazz

A little bit close to home eh

As you can see , the matter was settled by the gentlemen of this forum , there is no reason for you to try and stir things up again.

Originally posted by Crustasian

Thanks guys for all your attention.I didn't do it to deliberately offend anyone but to provoke some lively debate.I am sorry Diz if it annoyed you so much.

Originally posted by Dizbuster

Perhaps we can settle this like gentlemen ?? A few beers and a game of Connect 4 to decide the winner next time I'm in town ??

[Crustasian]

OK:

Next time you are in town.I suppose it is only fitting that we do it in MTB.

[K2]

Then maybe a Tetley's or few at Faulty Towers !