BG bank accounts

[Crustasian]

I am amazed at how many guys do send money back here to a BG that they only met for a week or so.They then get upset to find out that they are not the only sponsor.Let's get real here - time with a BG is bought and paid for.

You liked your hotel room but I bet you don't send it any money!!

[dizbuster]

Originally Posted by Crustasian

I am amazed at how many guys do send money back here to a BG that they only met for a week or so.They then get upset to find out that they are not the only sponsor.Let's get real here - time with a BG is bought and paid for.

You liked your hotel room but I bet you don't send it any money!!

Thank you Billy Graham

[LivinLOS]

Sorry but I agree with him.. Unless your going to either get them a visa to come to you or planning to go and be with them on a longer term what is the point ??

All that missing each other, second guessing motives, wondering what will happen, heartache etc.. Not to mention the cost.. Just get a new one next tour if its just a few weeks a year.

Only possible exception is if you really are just doing at as a good deed to help someone in life as a charitabe act.. I personally cannot see any reason to buy a pen pal for 50 weeks of the year. Its either your worth continueing something with so lets do the visa get together start a relationship and see what happens or its just a bit of fun.

[faultytowers]

Originally Posted by dizbuster

Thank you Billy Graham

Don't think he's preaching, I've met a lot of "Newbies" who are under the impression that just because they send money to a BG, she is "theirs".

We are all aware of the problems that can arise if more than one "sponsor" is in town at the same time. And with Christmas and New Year coming up, this is going to be happening a lot.

Remember : A BG is for Christmas - Not for ever.

[dizbuster]

We're all adults and as such we do as we please, so having someone come on here and tell us not to do it gets my goat !! If he doesn't want to do it then that's up to him, but get off other people's backs. This is patronisation at it's worst as if someone is payinbg money then they will have thought about the consequences and we don't need "Billy Graham" to preach to us about therights and wrongs of it.

Was that clear enough ??

[Benjy]

Hes not having a go at them for doing it, hes saying that they shouldnt be surprised when they find out they are not the only guy sending money, or that shes still working.

Didnt think the OP was preaching at all, might have touched a nerve though!

Who's Billy Graham?

[LivinLOS]

Why does it get your goat.. He says he is amazed that guys do this.. personally I am no longer amazed by it but I must admit it does kind of baffle me that people do it..

There are some valid reasons.. Charitable act not expecting anything in return, helping a girl go to school and change her life, to allow a girl you like to go home and take care of her kid instead of working bar, etc.. But just to send money to someone while they still work and stay in Patong.. I cant see the point myself.

Either you want a relationship to go further and so try the visa thing and family like ETV seems to be doing (and a few other BM's doing Thailands export trade ) or just leave with the memories and see them next trip if they are still working. Sponsership while they work bar gains the sponser nothing in my eyes, the girl is still husband hunting, the girl is still in the bar, and all you get is heartache and headache for your generosity.

[dizbuster]

Originally Posted by Benjy

Hes not having a go at them for doing it, hes saying that they shouldnt be surprised when they find out they are not the only guy sending money, or that shes still working.

Didnt think the OP was preaching at all, might have touched a nerve though!

Who's Billy Graham?

Billy Graham is/was a big name in the church and is/was widely recognised as a travelling preacher from America going around telling everyone that they were committing sin in the eyes of God and should repent.

Having re-read the first post, I still think Crustasian is preaching and in fact I think Crustasian may not be his only sign-on to this forum as it's yet another post that is written in a way that is contraversial. If he was really trying to warn people, then he chose some funny words in which to post his warning. Like a lot of other posts here, the inital poster picks a subject which many people have opinions on and starts it off with a strong leaning in one direction knowing full well that there will be others who disagree and post accordingly.

I think he's guilty of treating/thinking of BM's as people without a brain and who can't think for themselves. Well, he's wrong and in my opinion should delete this thread as it serves no other purpose other than to wind people up. It's not written as a warning nor as information.

[dizbuster]

Originally Posted by LivinLOS

Why does it get your goat.. He says he is amazed that guys do this.. personally I am no longer amazed by it but I must admit it does kind of baffle me that people do it..

There are some valid reasons.. Charitable act not expecting anything in return, helping a girl go to school and change her life, to allow a girl you like to go home and take care of her kid instead of working bar, etc.. But just to send money to someone while they still work and stay in Patong.. I cant see the point myself.

Either you want a relationship to go further and so try the visa thing and family like ETV seems to be doing (and a few other BM's doing Thailands export trade ) or just leave with the memories and see them next trip if they are still working. Sponsership while they work bar gains the sponser nothing in my eyes, the girl is still husband hunting, the girl is still in the bar, and all you get is heartache and headache for your generosity.

I agree with what you say and have no issue on that, but it's the way it's written as if everyone who sends money is stupid and they should "get real". Who the fcuk is he to judge and preach like that ? That's what I am saying.

[stevem]

Originally Posted by dizbuster

Having re-read the first post, I still think Crustasian is preaching and in fact I think Crustasian may not be his only sign-on to this forum as it's yet another post that is written in a way that is contraversial.

Now you can stop that bullshit right here, why must some people always accuse BM's of being someone else in disguise.

Crustasian is a geniune guy and is a well know expat in Patong and has been living there for years, probably longer than other expats on this board.

Those that know him, know that he is not the preaching type, and is only offerring his opinion.

[dizbuster]

Originally Posted by stevem

Now you can stop that bullshit right here, why must some people always accuse BM's of being someone else in disguise.

Crustasian is a geniune guy and is a well know expat in Patong and has been living there for years, probably longer than other expats on this board.

Those that know him, know that he is not the preaching type, and is only offerring his opinion.

OK I retract the fact that he may have other sign-ons and apologise for that, but he should learn not to write in such a contraversial way or else he will get responses like he did.

As for your "bullshit" comment, you should know more than most that your comment was out of order as well.

[the bigboy]

in case some one is iterested i can give you the number of my ex gf bank account she need a lot of money her buffalo is sick

[Dodger]

Originally Posted by dizbuster

We're all adults and as such we do as we please, so having someone come on here and tell us not to do it gets my goat !! If he doesn't want to do it then that's up to him, but get off other people's backs. This is patronisation at it's worst as if someone is payinbg money then they will have thought about the consequences and we don't need "Billy Graham" to preach to us about therights and wrongs of it.

Was that clear enough ??

Diz I dont think Crustacian was preaching but just saying how amazed he was at guys meeting a bg for one week and then sending money and expecting she will be waiting for them for the next 50 weeks. I can totally agree with him cos I also find that amazing however taking it further I do realise that there are not any generalisations that can be made about guys who do decide to do this, only odds are stacked against it turning out alright, although of course sometimes it does.

I think your reaction is coming from a different direction, I met you this trip for the first time, instantly liked you and we had some good old chats, yours and others experiences are not what he is amazed at. There are many newbies that do meet up and then instantly start sending money every month without having a fuller understanding or comparable experience to judge their decision on, this is nothing like your personal experience he's describing.

Getting back on thread, do the guys who that do send monies after knowing the girl for one week do it because in our terms it is only a small sum? because it makes them feel better financially helping a friend because they can? I just wondered if anyone that has done this, after thinking it all through might say their own reason. As Diz said we are all adults we make our own decisions just wanted to get the alternative opinion to my own for a better understanding.

[Benjy]

Still cant see why hes wound you up so much, I agree with LivinLOS - what point is there to sending money to a girl who is working in Patong?

Sure if she goes back to Issan and gets some education, starts a business or something then I'm sure its worthwhile. But to just give them extra money whilst they are already earning a high income doesnt really make any sense, unless the sender of the money thinks that this will make the girl less promiscuous somehow. If your not going to enter into a serious relationship with them now or at some point in the future, what are you paying for that you couldnt just pay for when you visit?

[stevem]

Originally Posted by dizbuster

As for your "bullshit" comment, you should know more than most that your comment was out of order as well.

No I dont know that, or more to the point so what. When someone has a go at a good friend, and also you should know a BM that is well know and liked by alot of other BM's, I will defend them.

[the bigboy]

hey dizzzzzzzzzzzzz don't be so angry bb is back 555555555 4 month to heaven patong will miss the two big fat farang

[the bigboy]

dodger u ugly bstrd it's cold in europe

[dizbuster]

Originally Posted by stevem

No I dont know that, or more to the point so what. When someone has a go at a good friend, and also you should know a BM that is well know and liked by alot of other BM's, I will defend them.

So the next time I defend someone and stand up for them in a way you don't like, it means you are not going to "moderate" my post(s) ?

Not only do you write it but you also talk it !!

As for well known, you're wrong and if you don't believe me then look at the "join date". 2 months is hardly enough to become "well known" - so now who's talking bullshit ??

[Dodger]

Originally Posted by the bigboy

dodger u ugly bstrd it's cold in europe

BB you XXXXL shirt wearing Dutchy, your right, fecking freezing.

[Hobbsy]

i just stapled my finger.

[Dodger]

Originally Posted by Hobbsy

i just stapled my finger.

5555555555555555...Rob what the feck has that got to do with anything other than make me laugh!!

[faultytowers]

Originally Posted by faultytowers

Don't think he's preaching, I've met a lot of "Newbies" who are under the impression that just because they send money to a BG, she is "theirs".

We are all aware of the problems that can arise if more than one "sponsor" is in town at the same time. And with Christmas and New Year coming up, this is going to be happening a lot.

Remember : A BG is for Christmas - Not for ever.

Diz, I posted this in reply to your "Billy Graham" comment, as I felt you had got the wrong end of the stick, and wanted to try and clear things up. After reading the rest of your posts, I think you are completely out of order. We are all entitled to our views,and although Crustasians manner is perhaps blunter than you like,he makes a valid point.

As someone who has lived in Patong for years and has "seen and heard" all the "heartbreak" stories ,I think he is probably in a better position than most to offer advice.

There was no personal attack on anyone,no name calling , only his attempt to get the point across to Newbies that they don't "own" a BG just because they send a few quid every month.

If any apology is required,or posts need deleted ,then, I think it should come from you. And then we can get back to the usual relaxed atmosphere that is normal on the forum.

[andy50]

i second that faulty,i can,t find anything wrong with the post by crustation,
and i was, at one time sending money to a b/g in pattaya
only when i got a computer, and found this board (and others )did i find out what a twat i had been!