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Old 16-01-2006, 07:07
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Hi all. I,m fairly new to this forum and have visited Thailand twice. This post is about whether or not people feel information gained from your BG's e-mail account should be used to intervene in her games if one of her boyfriends is at risk of losing his money, property, sense of wellbeing or whatever is discovered.
Example: I met a hotel receptionist last year and fell in love with her. Through emails we discussed marriage etc and she took the initiative insisting I not look at another girl and expressing her undying love for me alone. However a few inconsistencies in her stories led me to believe she was not as pure as she claimed. I guessed her email password and discovered her duplicity. Yes the lying ***** had a few farang on the go and yes they were sending her money. She, age 26 is at this moment in Koh Samet with a 66 year old East European fanny magnet. He has sent her at least $2000 US in the last year. She despises him.
I sometimes think of forwarding mails to her different boyfriends to spoil the whole game. Then again maybe they know the score and are playing her just as she is playing them and for all I know her 66 year old love God may think he's getting $2000 worth of pussy for his money (and planning to find her a job in the spring in his country but pssst, don't tell his wife).
Do these things happen for a reason? Is it best left alone? Would you like another man to inform you that your teeruk is a five timing business woman who wouldn't know a true emotion if it flew up her well used pussy?
I'm not her boyfriend anymore.
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Old 16-01-2006, 07:19
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If it was someone I knew or I thought it was going to cause serious financial damage I would tell him otherwise I'd leave it alone - best to learn the lesson and move on.
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Old 16-01-2006, 07:44
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If this other guy is a mate then tell him, he probably wont believe you anyway, have seen that all before. But, you must also consider that you yourself have committed an offense, in accessing someone elses email account.
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Old 16-01-2006, 07:59
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Just goes to prove that the "good girls" are sometimes the "bad girls"
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dishonesty

i hate dishonesty, so i would tell the parties concerned, via an new email account at an internet cafe.

up to them if they are happy taking at least only 1/5 of her available p*ssy time.

i am very wary of girls in the tourist areas, real tgs dont look men in the eyes dont initiate conversation with strange men.

different i know, for a hotel worker she must talk to farang, but notice how the girls change after a few months exposed to tourists. everything about the girl is sharper, and the flirting with eyes as she hands you your room key or takes your food order, becomes obvious

its all game in tourist thailand, and there is winners and losers.
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I tried cracking the password several times but never seems to get it..
How did you do it?
I wanted to check on my wife. She use to do that but accordingly to her not anymore.. she had stop after our marriage but sometime there are signs showing she might still be at it...
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I would only do anything if it was a direct and close friend not even for an aquaintance.. They know what they are doing, its thier money..

I was recently in this direct situation and even after telling him, he still didnt change anything..
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I tried cracking the password several times but never seems to get it..
How did you do it?
I wanted to check on my wife. She use to do that but accordingly to her not anymore.. she had stop after our marriage but sometime there are signs showing she might still be at it...


If you have physical access they you need to install a keylogger.. Many of them now show up in Anti virus scans so finding a new one or disabling AV for a ferw days does the job..

To do it remotely is a fair bit harder where you need to trojan her machine (burying the trojan into a filetype that will be executed with something like slipknot) then once remotely controlled install the keylogger.. To be honest this is non trivial if she has anti virus tools on the machine as you need tools that are not out in the public domain (as once they are they get added to the virus profiles)..
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i hate dishonesty, so i would tell the parties concerned, via an new email account at an internet cafe.

up to them if they are happy taking at least only 1/5 of her available p*ssy time.

i am very wary of girls in the tourist areas, real tgs dont look men in the eyes dont initiate conversation with strange men.

different i know, for a hotel worker she must talk to farang, but notice how the girls change after a few months exposed to tourists. everything about the girl is sharper, and the flirting with eyes as she hands you your room key or takes your food order, becomes obvious

its all game in tourist thailand, and there is winners and losers.

think accessing email is also dishonest maybe even illegal !!!!!
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Old 16-01-2006, 11:44
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no maybe about it. It is illegal.

If you suspect foul play then in all likelihood it is there and it's just confirmation you want. Either live with it or finish the relationship are the realistic options.
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Tell them

If you know the guy, then tell the guy.
He can make up his own mind with what to do next...
Another thing is that I would never help out a BG or even a female friend of mine to construct/send and email to another person(knowingly misleading them)....
My motto is treat people the way you like to be treated.
I would be so pi*sed off if I found out that my girl was sending me misleading emails...but even worse if another guy was helping her....
As the guy...what satisfaction do you get ripping someone off???
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yes dishonest

yes cracking somebodys email is illegal, but its shades of dishonesty.

some poor suckers sending a manipulator money, i would hope someone would try to save me from that.

but as LIL and SteveM said told men but they would not believe them anyway.

shades of dishonesty is a moral judgement on your own.
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yes cracking somebodys email is illegal, but its shades of dishonesty.

some poor suckers sending a manipulator money, i would hope someone would try to save me from that.

but as LIL and SteveM said told men but they would not believe them anyway.

shades of dishonesty is a moral judgement on your own.

Shades of dishonesty? This is an interesting comment. Is it analogous to commiting a "little murder"? If some action is dishonest, it is dishonest. There are no shades involved. I regard the action of accessing someone's email as detestable as the action that led to it.

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Old 16-01-2006, 14:35
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shades of dishonesty

of course i would be upset by some one cracking my email.

in a past life when i was involved with disciplined force i saw a version of street justice being handed by 1 man upon another.

i of course in professional capacity intervened and upon looking at the 2 protagonists, the "victim" was a known and convicted child molester.

a fairly heavy assault vs the feelings of a father about what happened to his child.

you want the man handing out the street justice the father of 1 of the child victims to end up in deep trouble ?

no it was a matter of leave now and i did not see it.

shades of dishonesty yes. unprofessional yes, but i never will lose sleep over it.
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Shades of dishonesty? This is an interesting comment. Is it analogous to commiting a "little murder"? If some action is dishonest, it is dishonest. There are no shades involved. I regard the action of accessing someone's email as detestable as the action that led to it.

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I dont tend to see the world as black and white.. To me its sounds nieve to think that all things are totally good or totally bad..

So knocking someone out (assult / grievous or actual bodiliy harm) if you see him beating up a weaker person without cause or attempted rape is wrong ??

Trespassing on someones property to recover somenthing stolen from you is wrong ??

Consider leaders decision processes about everything from going to war v the cost of fitting safety features to a car v its price.. All these things result in loss of lives yet for 'the greater good' can mean simply having a lower sticker price on a new ford !!!

Life is not so simple..
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As has been said many times Thai ladies want many farang as possible to increase the chance of marriage....

So if you send a Thai lady money each month then surely it is your choice ? You can close your eyes to what she MAY be doing whilst you are not there and sending her money but I think you asked if shes sponsored already ? and asked to see her email account opened, her bank book opened her handbag opened and seen her contact book, opened her mobile and checked her contacts and incoming international calls......etc etc......

If your GF/BG/LBFM refuses to let you see any of the above then for sure you are buying time share ? So its then up 2 U.

Thats your choice. As regards her email. These other people are strangers. I would not tell them anything. There could be trouble ahead.

Just forget the lady and move on....

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Old 16-01-2006, 16:42
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Thanks for the comments on my original post.
I agree it is 'wrong' and illegal (go to prison for it? Do you know anyone who's been prosecuted for it?) to access someone elses email a/c. It does not feel good and it becomes like a compulsion looking from afar on someone else's life without any longer being directly involved. HOWEVER had I not accessed her a/c I might now be the bewildered HUSBAND wondering what was going on. We all know it's not easy to get true information about people in Thailand. Cover up's , half truths, lies, Thai smiles. By this means I was able to be 100% certain I was being conned. I could have lost everything. Jeez I never even kissed her. I loved her. I am a lot wiser now. I know I was a fool in retrospect and she preyed on my vulnerability. That beautiful smile can cover up a lot of scheming artifice.
As for telling the other guy(s), I will not because my true motive is of revenge on HER, raining on her parade, rather than helping HIM (he's not very nice). He after all has at least got shagged by her and is not marrying her. Who am I to intervene? I do believe things happen for a reason. I was lucky to find out the truth and it kept ME safe but for the others they would not welcome my intervention because they are MEN and their ego's would not allow them to accept the reality- they would be 'playing her'.
I dont recommend accessing your BG's email a/c; that way madness lies. But be careful, read the website reports and remember "bar girls (and receptionists) are for recreation only". Knowing that won't stop me falling in love with one again though. Aaaaaaaaaargh!!!
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I dont tend to see the world as black and white.. To me its sounds nieve to think that all things are totally good or totally bad..

So knocking someone out (assult / grievous or actual bodiliy harm) if you see him beating up a weaker person without cause or attempted rape is wrong ??

Trespassing on someones property to recover somenthing stolen from you is wrong ??

Consider leaders decision processes about everything from going to war v the cost of fitting safety features to a car v its price.. All these things result in loss of lives yet for 'the greater good' can mean simply having a lower sticker price on a new ford !!!

Life is not so simple..


Sefton,

I think your logic is akin to saying something is "quite unique". Moreover I would suggest that your analogies are flawed; knocking out someone who is about to harm someone else is not morally wrong, reading someone's email is. Citing the actions of "our beloved leaders", be they George Dubbya or little Johnny Howard is fraught is danger, as most politicians deal from a platform of self interest rather than looking at the common good. And "yes", I would argue that trespassing on property to retrieve something stolen from you is wrong. Reading someone's email is intellectual theft, regardless of the reasons behind such an action.

Perhaps it is a trait of my Aries character that I tend to see things in these terms; I would not regard it as naivety. You might see it otherwise - de gustibus non est disputandum.

Whatever, should you so desire, I am really looking forward to having a deep and meaningful face to face philosophical discussion in a couple of weeks about the above and other related topics such as the meaning of life - naturally lubricated by a beer or three. (I can still bring a decent Bordeaux if you prefer). It could be fun.

Ron

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I dont tend to see the world as black and white.. To me its sounds nieve to think that all things are totally good or totally bad..

So knocking someone out (assult / grievous or actual bodiliy harm) if you see him beating up a weaker person without cause or attempted rape is wrong ??

Trespassing on someones property to recover somenthing stolen from you is wrong ??

Consider leaders decision processes about everything from going to war v the cost of fitting safety features to a car v its price.. All these things result in loss of lives yet for 'the greater good' can mean simply having a lower sticker price on a new ford !!!

Life is not so simple..


I'll take the opposite tack to the previous post, and say 'Amen'.

Black and white morality is drilled into society because that way it is easier to control. Those in power, economically, politically and religious, don't subscribe to it for themselves. It is only for the followers....
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I tried cracking the password several times but never seems to get it..
How did you do it?
I wanted to check on my wife. She use to do that but accordingly to her not anymore.. she had stop after our marriage but sometime there are signs showing she might still be at it...

Mal140, if your wife is working from your homecomputer, and she uses a webbased emailaccount (e.g., hotmail), you might check the cache on your pc, where all the files loaded from the net are saved. And since it is your own pc, I would not worry about privaacy and things being illegal.
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will do just that....
Thanks for your advice..
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Lets stick to the facts,

as long as she is not married with you, she will have as many farangs as possible, who send her money or pay holiday. Some of them she likes like good friend, others are just customers, but she cares good, while staying with them.

after she is married, she may still see the marriage as a job, maybe she thinks : someday i will love him, or find true love somewhere else.

and in any case, she wants not to be controlled, but she wants to be smart, and accepts that sometimes you are smarter than her.

so when you get some info about her other paycheck. why not talk with her about him. just tell her, you met him by chance on internet, and you found out that you were going out with the same girl. she will accept this, because internet is just something obscure for her, where you can do many things, but do not know, how it works. So maybe she thinks, 'ok, this time you won, but next time i will win'. But you can argue with her about the other boyfriend and she will tell you, what you want to hear : you are more handsome man, love you more than him. And in case you tell her something you know from another source, she will never deny or try to explain, she just asks you bluntly : How do you know ?
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