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Old 27-02-2006, 00:37
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I have to admit, he's right with most of it. We don't like Pattaya. Yes; food, hotels, BGs and everything else are cheaper up there - but who wants to live there? Phuket is just a much nicer place to be.[/quote]

If I wanted a mongering holiday I would go to Pattaya, but as you say, if I was to live in LOS, it would not be Pattaya.
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I just can't agree that Pattaya is cheaper than Phuket. Having been to Pattaya on 5 occasions and Phuket on 4, I actually believe that Phuket is slightly cheaper. The only thing I will agree is cheaper, is transport as the tuk-tuks are ridiculously expensive compared to the songthaews. But when it comes to girls and food, I just can't agree that Pattaya is cheaper, with beer being roughly the same.

Perhaps Stickman should sod off back to Bangkok and stick to what he knows best.
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I just can't agree that Pattaya is cheaper than Phuket. Having been to Pattaya on 5 occasions and Phuket on 4, I actually believe that Phuket is slightly cheaper. The only thing I will agree is cheaper, is transport as the tuk-tuks are ridiculously expensive compared to the songthaews. But when it comes to girls and food, I just can't agree that Pattaya is cheaper, with beer being roughly the same.

Perhaps Stickman should sod off back to Bangkok and stick to what he knows best.

I agree Diz, Only a couple of things are cheaper in Pattaya, One of which is the Happy hours in the bars during the day which you wont find in Patong really (As far as I know)....

Also maybe just the hotels are around a 100bt or so cheaper because of the competition there but other than that, Its pretty equal... And I have to agree with you aswell Diz, I spend a couple of thousand baht more a day in Pattaya than I do in Patong, So it really does not ring true for me either.....
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I keep reading this comparison between Phuket and Pattaya. There doesn't seem to be anything new in it- Pattaya more bars- Phuket more to do.

I would rather spend a few days in Bangkok whilst holidaying in Phuket- the flights are daily and you can find accomodation quite easily- then you can hit the nightlife and all the bars (some of which- EDEN, BJ bars like star of light etc which service you on the premises-) for a couple of nights, then pop back down to Phuket for the wonderful beaches and the relative quiet Bangla.

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I just can't agree that Pattaya is cheaper than Phuket. Having been to Pattaya on 5 occasions and Phuket on 4, I actually believe that Phuket is slightly cheaper. The only thing I will agree is cheaper, is transport as the tuk-tuks are ridiculously expensive compared to the songthaews. But when it comes to girls and food, I just can't agree that Pattaya is cheaper, with beer being roughly the same.

Perhaps Stickman should sod off back to Bangkok and stick to what he knows best.


Goods are certainly cheaper Diz, in the same way BKK is cheaper for shopping.

I brought a bg from pattaya to phuket, went around a few of the local markets etc... and she was truly shocked at the prices.

I would not disagree about prices of girls/food and of course hotels either as there is every price range of hotel in pattaya just like there is in patong but not sure about the drink prices as there are a lot of happy hours in pattaya, can get draught beer for as little as 35 - 45 baht there.Can also get very cheap spirits in happy hours and I haven't seen the same prices to match in patong. Not sure if anywhere in phuket does those kind of prices ?
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This thread could go for years

My experience in January when I visited both places:

Freelancer LT - 1500 Patong, 1000 Pattaya.
Freelancer ST - 800/1000bt Phuket, 500 bt Pattaya
Gogo - 2000bt Phuket for ST (did not ask LT ) , LT in Pats 2000bt

DVDs were cheaper in Patong

Everything else was pretty even.
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My experience in January when I visited both places:

Freelancer LT - 1500 Patong, 1000 Pattaya.
Freelancer ST - 800/1000bt Phuket, 500 bt Pattaya
Gogo - 2000bt Phuket for ST (did not ask LT ) , LT in Pats 2000bt

DVDs were cheaper in Patong

Everything else was pretty even.

Well sorry Gez but thats your own fault if you payed them prices...

FL in Patong LT...1000bt same same Pattaya...
FL in Patong ST...500bt same same Pattaya...
Agogo girls LT in both places 1500bt...

So they seen you coming my freind.. Must have been the trousers...555555555..

PS: Never talk about money and just pay the rates, If you are not giving enough the girls will tell you quick enough
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Well sorry Gez but thats your own fault if you payed them prices...

FL in Patong LT...1000bt same same Pattaya...
FL in Patong ST...500bt same same Pattaya...
Agogo girls LT in both places 1500bt...

So they seen you coming my freind.. Must have been the trousers...555555555..

PS: Never talk about money and just pay the rates, If you are not giving enough the girls will tell you quick enough


To be fair Ally,

It's very easy for a guy of mid twenties to say that, when you are mid 30's 40's and so on you may find those prices will increase.

Thai girls do prefer younger men for a variety of reasons. When you get older and 'lose your hair' it becomes more about the money.
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Well sorry Gez but thats your own fault if you payed them prices...

FL in Patong LT...1000bt same same Pattaya...
FL in Patong ST...500bt same same Pattaya...
Agogo girls LT in both places 1500bt...

So they seen you coming my freind.. Must have been the trousers...555555555..

I have been to LOS before and I do haggle. The girls were adamant as to how much they wanted, and would not budge, so I usually walked away and kept my baht.

Maybe age played a part. Pattaya does seem to attract older guys.

When I planned my January trip, I did not intend going to Pattaya, but after my experiences with the girls in Patong I wanted to see if Pattaya was the same (I was there 3 years ago). During my stay in Patong, I assumed that due to high season, the girls could be a bit more picky and ask for more money. I wanted to compare this with Pattaya and the prices I mention show the difference.

How many Phuket v Pattaya threads are on the go now??
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Old 27-02-2006, 02:33
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To be fair Ally,

It's very easy for a guy of mid twenties to say that, when you are mid 30's 40's and so on you may find those prices will increase.

Thai girls do prefer younger men for a variety of reasons. When you get older and 'lose your hair' it becomes more about the money.

Well maybe in some cases, But did you not notice that nearly all of the prices that he mentioned from Phuket were more expensive but the ones for Pattaya were the same rates that I would pay there?

Even the 2000lt rates for Agogo girls, I have been quoted them prices aswell but just laugh, And normally would never go with any of them girls anyway because I might sound strange but thats one of the things I dont like is girls asking out straight.. "How much pay"... Kinda comes across as being pushy to me, I can understand why they do it though, Just puts me off, Thats why I find a girl who does not talk about money, And then in the morning if she is not happy with the money I gave her, She can always say and then I will give her more, Has never happened to me yet though....

One thing I didnt take into consideration was whether or not the girls in Patong were more pushy with Gez than the girls in Pattaya (Assuming he asks them how much they want), Or would chance there arm more if you ask them "How much you want" than the girls in Pattaya where there is more competition in fear of losing the customer....

PS: I still think it was the trousers...5555555555..
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Maybe age played a part. Pattaya does seem to attract older guys.


I think this is definately the case.

I'm 34, not too bad looking for my age and some bg's tell me they think I look a little younger maybe 28 - 29.

In patong I feel more unattractive due to the fact that so many young and good looking men visit as it's a bit of a playboy destination (those young italians in the recent MTB tour pics spring to mind) And this is something I have noticed in all my visits.

In pattaya, I remember the 1st time, I noticed that men were considerably older on average and the women, even on my first day were almost raping me and I actually felt embarrassed because everywhere I went night or day, there were so many women shouting at me from across the street.

I even had one shout at me about 15mins after I left the hotel for the first time mid - afternoon 'hanssssssumm maaaannn, I **** you for free' which made all 'older heads' sitting in that bar turn and stare at me

So I felt considerably more handsome in patts than patong
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I have been to LOS before and I do haggle. The girls were adamant as to how much they wanted, and would not budge, so I usually walked away and kept my baht.

Maybe age played a part. Pattaya does seem to attract older guys.

When I planned my January trip, I did not intend going to Pattaya, but after my experiences with the girls in Patong I wanted to see if Pattaya was the same (I was there 3 years ago). During my stay in Patong, I assumed that due to high season, the girls could be a bit more picky and ask for more money. I wanted to compare this with Pattaya and the prices I mention show the difference.

How many Phuket v Pattaya threads are on the go now??

See there is the difference Gez, Its not age, Its you talk about money before taking the girls which I dont, And therefore I am assuming the girls in Patong haggle a lot better than the girls in Pattaya, Due to competition and fear of losing a potential customer for the night...
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I might sound strange but thats one of the things I dont like is girls asking out straight.. "How much pay"... Kinda comes across as being pushy to me, I can understand why they do it though, Just puts me off, Thats why I find a girl who does not talk about money, And then in the morning if she is not happy with the money I gave her, She can always say and then I will give her more, Has never happened to me yet though....


PS: I still think it was the trousers...5555555555..


You don't sound strange at all, in my experience those that ask up front about money are usually the kind only interested in money and nothing else.

Of course I understand that need to have a business head so perhaps they are being 'smart minded' too, generally those who don't mention money to tend to be a safer bet if you are looking for a GFE or let's say something more enjoyable than just sex alone.

I'm starting to agree...it's the trousers
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I'm starting to agree...it's the trousers

I knew you would start to see it my way, Its defiantly the trousers...555555555555..
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See there is the difference Gez, Its not age, Its you talk about money before taking the girls which I dont, And therefore I am assuming the girls in Patong haggle a lot better than the girls in Pattaya, Due to competition and fear of losing a potential customer for the night...

You have lost me with your logic there mate.

I treat the girls in both places exactly the same. I always sort out the financial agreement before the dirty deed is done. Would you buy a pair of trousers from a tailor without settling a price first?

You could be correct about the girls being different. The Patong girls could be seasoned/hardened in some way. Maybe the ratio between guys and girls is more in their favour in Patong.

A new thread has started about changes in Patong, Tiger63a made a comment that Patong was not the same and it did not feel quite right on his latest trip.

All I can do is reiterate that in my experience on my last trip Pattaya suits my mongering style much better than Patong. If anybody can explain why, I'd be very grateful, 'cos it ain't my trousers
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I knew you would start to see it my way, Its defiantly the trousers...555555555555..


I have a theory about that though.

His trousers made him look swish like he had good money to burn, hence they raised the price.

He should have turned up in cheap charlie gear, raggy old shorts, dirty sandals and a bottle of chang beer in hand.
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You have lost me with your logic there mate.

I treat the girls in both places exactly the same. I always sort out the financial agreement before the dirty deed is done. Would you buy a pair of trousers from a tailor without settling a price first?

You could be correct about the girls being different. The Patong girls could be seasoned/hardened in some way. Maybe the ratio between guys and girls is more in their favour in Patong.

A new thread has started about changes in Patong, Tiger63a made a comment that Patong was not the same and it did not feel quite right on his latest trip.

All I can do is reiterate that in my experience on my last trip Pattaya suits my mongering style much better than Patong. If anybody can explain why, I'd be very grateful, 'cos it ain't my trousers

My logic is that I never talk about money with the girls, Whether it be in Patong or Pattaya, Pay them both the same and they are always happy...

On the otherhand, You talk to them and end up paying more in Patong, I bet if you didnt mention anything about money before taking the girls in Patong, They would be happy with the same money as you give the Pattaya girls... Well it works for me anyway...

PS: I would never buy a pair of them trousers...5555555555..
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[quote=dogblower]"But reflecting on my recent trip down to Phuket, I have to wonder about the pearl of the Andaman. So much is made of Phuket being the premier destination in Thailand. Sure, it has a lot going for it, but I have to admit getting rather sick at the snootiness shown by many of the Phuket locals towards Pattaya. Truth be told, Pattaya kicks Phuket's ass in many ways. First of all, the prices for just about everything are astronomical in Phuket. Most things in Pattaya are much more reasonably priced. In terms of choice of hotels and affordability, again Pattaya is hard to beat. As far as food goes, I reckon that once again Pattaya is the pick, although this is somewhat subjective I must admit. For bars and nightlife there is little doubt where is better. In fact, apart from natural beauty and better beaches, Pattaya is a very real alternative.".....Stickman, Bkk.....26/2/06


Thanks for this Dogblower.

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My logic is that I never talk about money with the girls, Whether it be in Patong or Pattaya, Pay them both the same and they are always happy...

On the otherhand, You talk to them and end up paying more in Patong, I bet if you didnt mention anything about money before taking the girls in Patong, They would be happy with the same money as you give the Pattaya girls... Well it works for me anyway...

PS: I would never buy a pair of them trousers...5555555555..

If the girls in Patong were happy with the lower price (e.g 1000 LT), why did they let me walk away with no deal when I offered them this amount.
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If the girls in Patong were happy with the lower price (e.g 1000 LT), why did they let me walk away with no deal when I offered them this amount.

I think thats the point, Dont talk about it, Just slip 1000bt under there bag in the morning

PS: If I was to talk about money, Maybe I would be quoted the same.....
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I think thats the point, Dont talk about it, Just slip 1000bt under there bag in the morning