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The full story (Long post)
So everyone heard my whining and i figured its time for the full story.
So it all started out in Karon beach i guess 4 days or so after i landed. The night before i met Yem i had been with another girl that i met in the same bar on my first night on Phuket the bar was called Allies bar if i remember it correctly. She was wonderful no doubt but definitly not a keeper since she couldnt realy communicate at all, she was fresh in Phuket and only knew VERY basic english. Either way i had some good time with her but only for a night. She was very beautiful, very dark skin and glowing eyes, blending white teeth and a smile you could die for. And in bed she was a machine no doubt, i didnt have much to say at all about what was going on but i enjoyed every second.
The day after i got a realy bad cold, fever and all that shit, i sent the girl away and told her that maybe ill come and see her in the bar another day. After that i probably went trough ALL the shows they were viewing on National Geographics. I had a terrible time but i actually managed to get out on a few paracetamol for a dinner at nights but thats it, then straight back to the hotell with an ice pack on my forehead.
Eventually i got better, i still had a realy bad cough but nothing that would stop me from drinking and smoking too much realy. That night i went back to the bar, i didnt realy plan on seeing the same girl again but i did ask for her. Thats when i met Yem, at first she wasnt all that if im gonna be totaly honest. She's very short, and very thin, i guess cute in her own way but not what i would normally go for. She started talking about this and that and eventually she talked me into walking her home, back to her room. We didnt get that far tho, and we ended up on my hotel room instead because she said she hated sleeping alone. I was to be honest not that attracted to her at this point and i didnt realy think about having sex with her. I even told her "only sleep"
So we got into the hotel and i was about to walk up to my room with her once i hear someone yelling at me, it was the night manager yelling about Lady joiners fee. I didnt have any money on me at this time so Yem paid the 600bath and said its ok, i pay for only sleep tonight. I didnt say anything, she left her id with the manager. We got up to the room, and she said "Jimmy take shower na" But i was kinda busy with the minibar at the time grabbing whatever that was left in there and told her she can take shower first. I went out and sat on the balcony opened the jim beam whiskey. Normally im not much for whiskey but in some strange way i managed to get that 35cl whiskey down in less then the 30 min she took in the shower. When she walked out of the shower she dropped the towel, im still not sure if it was intentionally or not but none the less, as the gentleman i am, i picked up the towel and put it back around her. She said, "Very small, you dont like" With the whiskey talking i suppose i said something like "small but nice" And she was laughing and then she jumped up around my neck and gave me a kiss.
And then we didnt "Only sleep" even tho that was my plan from the beginning  We had a long night of fun together and in the morning i wake up by her jumping up on me and kissing me on my neck. I asked her if she had to go back to the bar today. She didnt want to, she said no i think you and i go to Patong today and have fun. I agreed, i hadnt been in Patong yet on this tour and ofcourse i wanned to go see how much it had changed since last time. We had a long night of dancing and drinking. She basicly had me in her strings now, i was realy starting to enjoy spending time with her, we had alot of fun together and lots of laughs. Oh and one thing, i never laughed so much as when she first started dancing, she was more or less just rolling on her head with the rest of the body just standing still. I dont consider myself a good dancer, actually im probably a terrible dancer but atleast i move when i dance!
Either way the trip with her pretty much continued with this, a few days renting a scooter driving around phuket together. She showed me everything that is worth seeing. She never ever wanted any money from me. I asked her many times if she's sure about that and the answer was always. Never worry about money, i have fun with you. Then a few days later the problems started coming, she got a call from a friend that said that the mamasan at the bar had asked about Yem and why she havent recieved any barfines. I figured id pay for the barfine so she didnt have to worry about that anymore. But she refused to let me pay. She said, i give money to you. You pay for untill today then you tell mamasan i quit the bar. I said fine, and i left her at the hotel to go talk with the mamasan and give her the money. She wasnt there but one of the girls in the bar said she would be back a little later. So i called Yem and told her that im gonna wait in the bar untill mamasan comes back. I had a few beers and started talking with some of Yems friends and had some laughs while yem was realy angry back in the hotel room.
Eventually the mamasan showed up. I tried to give her the money but she just said, Yem knows what she does, i dont take any money. I ask her if she knows that yem quit the bar and she said ofcourse, and no problems. So i left it at that, had another beer and walked back to the hotel. I gave the money back to Yem and she was even more angry now because the mamasan wouldnt take the money. I guess its about that face thing. She said, no problems for you but i live here, have to walk pass the bar everyday. Eventually she cooled down a bit and we started chatting about this and that not untill now i knew that she had a son, 2 years old. Or i guess i hadnt even asked. I went out to the balcony, and i heard that she started to cry, I walked back into the room and she jumped up on me gave me a big hug and asked me "Jimmy, what can i do when you go home, please dont go home" We had been together for about 10 days now. I was realy starting to fall for this girl or i had already fallen for her actually but i wasnt sure about her intentions, suspicious as i am. I didnt know what to answer, that was the question i never wanted, because i hadnt even been thinking about the scenario of waiting for the transfer back to the airport with her.
We spent alot of time with her friends in her room eating and talking about everything, i realy felt like i knew her. But boy was i wrong.
The day came when i had to leave. At this point we were both standing there crying like baby's as i was walking on the airport transfer. I remember how people looked at me when i walked on the bus, i tried to not look at them, just keep my face down in ground while walking over to an empty seat, trying to cover my red eyes with a news paper, but i guess it couldnt be avoided, an older man sat down next to me, and he said. "Dont worry about it, just give it time, its allways hard to leave someone you love" That didnt help me tho. she was still crying outside the bus, waving at me trough the window.
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I got back home. And the "Phuket-info" therapy time started, whining this and whining that, not sure about anything. Jelous about this and that and all the time i was getting texts and emails with pictures of her which didnt make it any easier at all. I couldnt realy sleep the first week, i wake up 4.00 in the night and sleeping an average of 3 hours per night. But at this time thats all i wanted, just so that i could call her and see so that she was allright with everything. She said she was looking for new jobs in phuket but that she missed her son realy bad and wanted to go back home. I asked her if i should send her some money so she could go visit her boy but she didnt want any money.
I told her that she didnt have to lie to me about anything. If she go with other men ofcourse i dont like that, but i cant do shit about it anyways so i told her to just be honest about everything and i realy thought that she was. She told me about every man she went with, it didnt feel good at all to hear it but i prefered that before "Im a good girl now, i work in restaurant" Never once did she ask me for money. And then all of a sudden after allmost 2 months she said she had realy big problem now. And she had to go to Singapore with a guy to make money for her mom to pay for the bank. I realy hated that, i didnt say anything tho. She said i will send text to you if i can but she didnt. I guess roaming SMS didnt work with her card.
So she gets back home and she asks me if i could send her just a little money And i did, i believe i sent her about 10.000 Bath. Not that much money but she was realy happy with that. Now i start to get texts from this guy she was with down in Singapore. Alot of texts, and also texts from yem's phone when the guy took her phone and removed my number, or thats what she said anyways. Then she goes back home for a while, to see her family she now starts texting me again, and say that she hate that guy for deleting my number and for sending texts to me. And that she will never talk with him again and that she only cares about me. But she had to do for her family.
I guess i bought it all, stupid as i am. But being a first timer in a relationship like this nothing is easy realy. I was making big plans for her to come here, and she knew about them and as i understood it she was realy excited about it too. I was halfway there today. I was actually about to send her the documents she needed for the Visa. Then i get another text from that guy, saying something like Yem is here with me now, naked in the bed. can you please stop sending texts to her. I actually thought he was just being jelous as he had done that before too, while she was back in Kalasin, I know for a fact that she actually was in Kalasin when he text me the first time. "Is it cold in Sweden? its alot warmer here in bed with Yem" But i was actually talking with her when i got that text so i knew that was all lies.
But today, i got the same shit again, only thing was that it wasnt lies this time. Yem had text me earlier that she said finished everything with that guy and he had asked her for everything he gave her back. "Cellphone, money etc etc" and she said she would give it all back to him. I text her back. "Why would you give back gifts? he gave them to you they are yours to keep"
So a few texts later i figured hell id call her just to see if she's realy playing me after such a long time without asking for anything. And as i was calling her i get a text from that guy "Now you are calling her and she says nothing about me" And he was right, she said she was with her brother. I said no you are not, you are with that guy now, but its ok. She says "Why you know?" I said because he's texting me all the time letting me know. Now she was in a realy bad hurry, "Sorry i have to go, have to do something important" Then i get a text from her, 15 min later, that said, talk to you tomorrow 3o'clock Thai time, I text her back, No we'll never ever talk again.
I got a few more texts, now she wrote, how much money you give me? i give all back to you, and to this guy too. I didnt realy want any money back as all i had given her was 10.000Bath and i figured a ****** has to be paid too.
I text her, I dont want anything more from you, never text me again. I guess she didnt want to lose face or something like that. But i dont realy care anymore. I will have loads of fun when going back to Phuket instead, and a hell of a lot less drama. I talk with the guy too, and he's actually a nice fellow and i told him that if she can trick me she can trick him too and told him to be very careful, and he agreed that he will.
I guess the point is, you can NEVER be sure, even if you think you are 100% sure about what they think or want you will most likely be wrong.
I wasnt realy open for all the advices ive got so far from the BM's even tho i realy wish that i was. So i guess i have to end this thread with a very good advice myself. And that is, listen to the advices the BM's gives you, never follow your heart when it comes to this kind of relationships, I wish that i would have used my brain the first time i asked for advices. Instead of following my heart. I guess thats it.
Please dont see this thread as another whine, today i woke up from a 2 months long love coma, and it actually feels good. And im sure that in the end i wont regret anything.
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Well done. You have just written out the classic 'my Thai GF experience' mini epic. I did suspect she was pretty much your first 'ish BG that you fell head over heals for... but believe me we have all made that mistake. They are so good at making you feel that you are special . Not a 'john' paying for sex.
Please try and go with at least 10 girls, have a strict 3 day butterfly run. Then once youve met the whole range of BG available and had a range of
experiences then you are ready to start making real judgement calls about 'the 1'.
I expect there will be a long list of BM's posting now saying 'yeah mate , hapened to me to.....'
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jimholio sorry to hear that it didnt work out.
not too bad at 10,000 baht (only 10 LT)for a lesson in love.
gotta be careful dont get to attached,myself I dont have much contact with Thai girlfriends when I return home,phone call once a month or so and dont answer Texts and "sorry dont have internet" keeps me sane.
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Nice story Jimmy. Too bad things did not work out. I good lesson learned at a small price. I know the money is not the thing, but the heavy hit on the heart hurts more. Good luck on our future trips to LOS.
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Jim well done. Respect for that open and honest post here that you´ve been wrong and what happend. Sorry to hear that but second happy to hear you´re on your way now...Everything else will now come also as you wish... i am sure 
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Jim
Great post. It was very interesting to read and I am sure it will be an eye opener for fellow BM's.
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Nice post, ejoyed it. Respect to you for having the balls to post it.
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Who ever wrote "It's better to have loved and lost than never to have loved at all" was full of shit.
They say women are the sentimental ones but I don't think thats true. I've been there Jim and I probably do it again, hard as I try not to.
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'2 month long love coma" really sums it up Jim. Thanks for the honest report but as I read it I was writing the next line and the next paragraph in my head.
Do not think you got played though. I am pretty sure this girl does like you but this is her job and as much as you want to beleieve you can deal with her going with other guys this is the reality of it.
Yes she lied, and it was the classic thai 'panic and run away' reaction when you caught her. But thais lie because it is far easier than telling or dealing with the truth.
I expect the hardest thing to deal with in all this is that she was with a complete jerk and it's a small mercy but you can rest assured he will get the same shit happen to him sooner rather than later.
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Jim,
Thanks for taking the time and effort in writing that.
I think it is a good lesson for all!!
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Good to see that you are starting to move on Jim.....you have learned a lesson about tg's and it only cost u 10,000baht....there would be thousands of guys who wish that is all it cost them.
Hope you don't think my post the other day was too tough....but you seemed not to be taking in good advice, especially from LIL.
Now you can look forward to your next trip.
Your young enough to get a few years experience with these girls over a few trips, before you decide if one of them may be right for you.....Good Luck Jim.
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Good to see that you are starting to move on Jim.....you have learned a lesson about tg's and it only cost u 10,000baht....there would be thousands of guys who wish that is all it cost them.
Hope you don't think my post the other day was too tough....but you seemed not to be taking in good advice, especially from LIL.
Now you can look forward to your next trip.
Your young enough to get a few years experience with these girls over a few trips, before you decide if one of them may be right for you.....Good Luck Jim.
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Dont worry about it, i can understand some people were tired of hearing about it.
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Good Post Jim...brutally Honest...
In Los Shit Happens...all The Time..but At 10 K......its A Cheap Lesson.......some Guys Have Lost There Businesses And In Some Cases There Lifes......
Chin Up Buddy And Move On To The Next Victim...
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Good Post Jim...brutally Honest...
In Los Shit Happens...all The Time..but At 10 K......its A Cheap Lesson.......some Guys Have Lost There Businesses And In Some Cases There Lifes......
Chin Up Buddy And Move On To The Next Victim...
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this is extremely sad but true.....seems to be a suicide every month or so in Patong.
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this is extremely sad but true.....seems to be a suicide every month or so in Patong.
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What? BG or BM Rob??
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this is extremely sad but true.....seems to be a suicide every month or so in Patong.
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Least its better than Pattaya.. When you count the number of 'suicides' where the person has both hands handcuffed and a bag over thier head along with the streetwalk skydivers that place really has to be some kind of record setter..
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Sorry to hear how things have turned out for you Jim
For what its worth I suspect this guy she has been seeing is her sponsor.
Reading ur post here about her paying for stuff etc....and what you had said previously about not having to pay, then obviously someone else was.
I think everyone of us BM's have a story to tell in one shape or another
From all the stuff you've said, she doesnt sound that bad to me, she told you alot of stuff at least close to the truth, so maybe she did genuinely like you. But i can assure you it near on impossible to sus out the real truth whats going on with them........this is the big downside of life with a thai girl
Without a doubt the longer you spend time with them and especially if you live there the more you get your eyes opened and probably to an extent the more cynical you get, myself included. Do i trust and believe Thai women including my own? No but you have to learn to live with small lies and hope and where you can ensure there are no big lies
If there is one thing i can say for sure, if you have a GF who you sponsor and she lives in patong, then it is almost certain she will misbehave at some point. Put the boot on the other foot, patong is an unreal world with a wealth of vice and temptation in your face 24/7 fuelled with alcohol and other substances to lower your self control............and a huge range of bad influences on the prowl aka your friends...............i think the pope would have severe problems not crossing over for a dip..................
Anyway my 1st post for a while and just had to get that off my chest
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aye, 1st post for a while and a more well reasoned and worded one you won't find (at least from you G hehe  )
Good do have you back m8.
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a wealth of vice and temptation.... in your face 24/7... fuelled with alcohol and other substances to lower your self control.. and a huge range of bad influences... on the prowl...
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Oi.. I resemble that remark !!!
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Well done for baring your soul Jim.
Not easy to do and it certainly gains my respect when another BM is honest.
As the others said, lesson learned, advice's now listened to, butterfly plan of action should be in place for the next trip...the future is bright for you Jimmy.
Ps..about the sickness.
Get youself a hotel room that has a ceiling fan next time, turn off that damn aircon 
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