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18-03-2006, 01:03
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The probing is to do with my own lack of knowledge and insecurity regarding my own attitudes and feelings about how I spend my time in Thailand. I do understand now how some people might perceive me but it's proving difficult to convince those people that I don't have some hidden agenda. I just tell myself that I have as much right to be on this forum as any of my detractors. 
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18-03-2006, 01:14
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Or perhaps it was this that arouses the suspicion ? Very insecure and lacking in knowledge Proffessor Bayleaf  http://www.stickmanbangkok.com/Reade...reader2289.htm Quote:
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18-03-2006, 01:19
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I say as much about myself as I feel comfortable with. I have nothing to do with journalism. I have contributed about my experiences which are limited. I dont see that that last point disbars me from posting whatever I like on the forum as long as it's acceptable to the moderators and in my opinion the greater majority of people who read this forum. When I do take part such as when Gspot asked me a direct question; he answered the BM who posted after me instead of the answer I gave him and which he requested. You seem to be suggesting there is a way to post and interact on the forum that is proscribed by about ten voiciferous BMs. Well it's not just the loud mouths at the front of the audience that define the forum it's the silent majority that read the threads and I do enjoy posting a thread that gets a lot of readers just as some BMs enjoy validating one anothers participation by posting when one reaches a certain number of posts. In my opinion some things I get accused of I could equally accuse my detractors of. For Christ's sake it's only a discussion forum not a passion play for the Third World War. Oh and one other thing (to all BMs)- give me a fu*king break.  Last edited by bayleaf : 18-03-2006 at 01:23.
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18-03-2006, 01:31
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5555555 Ok I am a mass of contradictions. I have read a LOT about Thailand since my first trip (not a tour) 2 years ago. I find it endlessly fascinating compared to my fairly drab life in the U.K. My problem is having the courage to put my thoughts into action and what I'm trying to do is get my feelings in order before going to LOS for my third trip at the end of March as I dont want to get scammed and nearly have been several times. In other words I want to "interact' with Thai ladies without losing my shirt, my marbles, my feelings or my hard on.
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18-03-2006, 01:37
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Hi Bayleaf,
Now this is better. You are interacting inside the forum rather than asking a question and then never coming back to that thread to post. Yes, you are interacting because of the way that you feel you are being treated but at least there is now some interaction between you and other BM's. Maybe something positive will come out of that and more BM's will not look at your posts the way they have been. I will use marc26 as an example. He posts threads about something like he has done lately about BM's living situations, patriotism, and other subjects. He is ineterested in other BM's thoughts or experiences just like you are. But all through each thread you can find marc26 posting in reference to other BM's posts on each subject. He actually cares about what other BM's have experienced and is trying to learn from their experiences or their situations. His threads never feel like he is doing some kind of sociological survey that will end up as the basis for a book or a term paper. I am not a longtime member here or to the LOS scene but other more experienced BM's have seen lots of negative press about LOS and as they care deeply for the country and it's people they take offense at negative reporting as they have seen so much of it. Not to say that your posts are negative but some of your questions have been asked before and then memorialised in a negative slant when mentioned somewhere by others. Sorry if we have misconstrued your intentions. An initial post telling about yourself and your interests might have helped. Or telling the truth and saying that you are compiling information about LOS and will be asking other BM's about their opinions by starting surveys based on topics that you are interested in with the intention of posting the information on another website, forum, book, term paper, etc.. 
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18-03-2006, 01:39
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"Maybe (bayleaf this is really a friendly discription of your threads)" he has a kind of writing which leads to the conclusion he is a reporter or something like that. But i have to say that not all of the BM´s have been many times in LOS so they had time to visit MTB or meet with some other BM´s. Or have been in LOS years around but just found this forum now. So not all of us can be known well or personally by each other. One of the positive things of this forum imho is the variaty of people (characters) ! It causes sometimes misunderstandings because of the language skills (thats at the top me i guess ) or because of different experiences . I posted one time a question to BL, i think he remembers well, and i apologized after that. Also got a PM ( not Bayleaf) about that post. So if anybody has to say something about what he knows or might know its up to the other BM´s to answer or not. If you think its worthless what this BM is posting, so just don´t answer and he is just wasting a little bit serverspace. And if this BM doesnt get any response to his posts he will stop or change his mind. The serverspace problem is the work for nicke or stevem i guess. But at least they can delete the worthless thread then.
To bayleaf: it was just a question of time that some BM´s are wondering about your kind of thread. You start them and then there is often nothing more coming. So you should have been more involved in the threads you start. I also have a pic of me in my profile . so everybody can see i am a real person. maybe you add a pic of you in your profile too. So all Bm´s can recognize you getting the purlizer price for research about thailand BG/TGF/GFE and every other topic salute compadre  
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18-03-2006, 03:08
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Was thinking the same thing exactly when I read the reply. Don't worry about it Bayleaf, I'm just having a laugh
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18-03-2006, 04:08
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Thanks Seafox, I feel better for all this airing of views. The next step for me is to come for a drink (orange juice) at MTB, whether I will declare myself on the night remains to be seen, depends on the vibes. People could play guess the bayleaf (around 28March-5April). After my trip I will have some experiences to relate on the forum.
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18-03-2006, 04:19
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I realise the suspicion might remain but it's hard for me to PROVE that I'm not a reporter/writer any more than you can PROVE you are not a cross dressing bus conductor from Wigan. Has anyone seen the film Butterfly Man? I bought it on my return from Thailand first time and it depicted what must be a common experience for many Farang looking for love in Thailand. Now I have to get prepared for my trip. See y'all.  Last edited by bayleaf : 18-03-2006 at 16:31.
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18-03-2006, 07:45
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Fair enuff BL....good to see u have come out and put things straight....l wouldn't think any BM has anu anamosity towards u....so get your ar$e down to MTB
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18-03-2006, 12:30
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Yes, yes, yes, yes etc.... Oh wait. It was same same 'back home' Except she was white, fat, ugly and aggressive...
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18-03-2006, 17:16
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Now you are starting to interact and that makes a big difference in how your posts are recieved.
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I would dissagree.. The forum is about posting, that creates content. Without posters there is no content and no posts for the lurkers to read. Readers that dont post contribute nothing the lurkers and readers have no value for the forum, the silent majority is essentially useless. The loud mouths make the forum (and its content), the silent majority dont.
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18-03-2006, 17:19
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18-03-2006, 17:29
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Except im sure a bunch of the Lurkers visited Mai Thai bar.
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18-03-2006, 17:37
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18-03-2006, 18:32
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I agree but the MTB is not the forum though... I still say lurkers and non posters are no benefit for the forum whatsoever.. I cant understand how non posters could in any way be considered as 'defineing the forum'..
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18-03-2006, 18:47
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I know mate, but most people at this forum starts out as lurkers, and then when they find a very interesting post, they sometimes feel obligated to participate. Thats how i first joined the forum anyways
So without lurkers we wouldnt get that many new members, and to be honest its allways nice with new members on this forum.
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18-03-2006, 19:00
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Certainly not against new members in anyway.. Its when they stop lurking and start contributing thier own experiences that they become 'members' and create content.
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18-03-2006, 19:09
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I know mate. While we are talking about that. Wouldnt it be about time to make it a requirement to registrate before viewing the board now? I mean most people that has been to Phuket has most likely seen phuket-info.com and the forum aswell? I think that would give us some more quality members.
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