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Old 25-08-2006, 03:07
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I just wonder how deeply are those men involved with these women that they send them money on regular basis? First trip, first woman that falls in love with them at first sight. The men cant believe their luck and stick with that girl for the stay, they get treated good, loving on regular basis, what else could they ask for, to wait for them till they return Oh yea, the BGs wont take them to lesbian shows or gogo bars, so maybe that also limits their views on entertainment in thailand. The longer you stay with a girl the harder it is to let her go, in my opinion if you like a particular girl, dont book her for 24 hours, book her for LTs once in a while. That way the barrier of customer relationship wont be broken But the spark will always be there. And i think its a good idea to book the same girl twice or more(depending on the length of your stay), as second time she will be more comfortable around you. (my opinions, and not facts


I had mentioned in a previous post that me and my TG fiance just recently split up after two years together. She decided to make a sudden carreer move and became a BG (again), end of relationship as far as I'm concerned. I ponied up the money and bought her a store with an apartment back in her village so she could be close to family and her daughter. She sold the store losing half the money in the transaction and gave the other half to her parents. She says she had to make the carreer move to Patong because "she need money". Well duh............

She just called me and said she will find falang to buy her house and car. The odd thing about that is she doesn't know how to drive......5555555

The point of this rant is BMs harden your hearts and guard your money. If there is one BG in Patong looking for a house and car, there are plenty of other BGs thinking the same thing.

MF....owner of a broken heart
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Old 25-08-2006, 08:31
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vxdxm, it sure sounds like we have travelled down the same road!! I find that the only thing I can really do to harden myself to the wiles of the BG is to make sure that they get paid for every minute that they stay with me! It's not much, but at least I can remind myself that the whole thing is just a fantasy!!
When asked to send them money, I always ask myself "What am I getting for the money sent?" The answer is usually "nothing" so that is what I send.
It is awfully hard to explain these things to people who have not gone through it and even harder to resist some of these girls.
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I had mentioned in a previous post that me and my TG fiance just recently split up after two years together. She decided to make a sudden carreer move and became a BG (again), end of relationship as far as I'm concerned. I ponied up the money and bought her a store with an apartment back in her village so she could be close to family and her daughter. She sold the store losing half the money in the transaction and gave the other half to her parents. She says she had to make the carreer move to Patong because "she need money". Well duh............

She just called me and said she will find falang to buy her house and car. The odd thing about that is she doesn't know how to drive......5555555

The point of this rant is BMs harden your hearts and guard your money. If there is one BG in Patong looking for a house and car, there are plenty of other BGs thinking the same thing.

MF....owner of a broken heart

Wow! I am momentarily speechless! ............................................

But not for long. I am really sorry for you to hear this. But every time that I have fallen for a BG or TG, and got my heart broken, after a painful period, then I have said to myself, "You're lucky that this happened now, better than later. If she could do that to you, then the sooner you fiind it out, the better off you are." And honestly, when I would first tell myself that, it would ring hollow, and I would feel like I was only trying to rationalize away the pain, as my gut was still asking where it went wrong, what mistake I made, and how could I get her back.

But as time worked its' healing magic, slowly mending the wound she inflicted, which seemed so deep that it would never heal, I would eventually come to see that I was right about being lucky!

Now, I'm a little older, maybe a little wiser, still without that great LT relationship that all of us hope for at one time or another. But there are two great things that make up for all past misfortunes: 1) I am free, healthy, and learning that life is a great gift and great joy just to live it every day, and I won't let any stupid girl take that away from me, and 2) My heart is still open to the girl that can show me that she really deserves my attentions, but she would have to show me a lot, because I am very careful now.

I remember meeting you and her at MTB, and seeing the joy that you two shared and it lifted my heart to see it. So I feel bad for your pain, and bad to see my own belief in the ideal of romantic love knocked down a notch, its' shine tarnished once again. It seems to further my current sense that love is for the moment, to enjoy while you can, but don't invest more in it than you can afford to lose, because it may just be a wonderful illusion, as fleeting as the image of a lake up ahead of you as you drive through the desert on a sweltering hot day. Enjoy it while you can, wallow in it, soak it up, indulge in it like an addict mainlining heroin, driving the needle deep into his vein, then let it go, and NEVER EVER let a girl hold your relationship with her as hostage for a ransom of gold!
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Old 25-08-2006, 16:09
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Wow! I am momentarily speechless! ............................................

But not for long. I am really sorry for you to hear this. But every time that I have fallen for a BG or TG, and got my heart broken, after a painful period, then I have said to myself, "You're lucky that this happened now, better than later. If she could do that to you, then the sooner you fiind it out, the better off you are." And honestly, when I would first tell myself that, it would ring hollow, and I would feel like I was only trying to rationalize away the pain, as my gut was still asking where it went wrong, what mistake I made, and how could I get her back.

But as time worked its' healing magic, slowly mending the wound she inflicted, which seemed so deep that it would never heal, I would eventually come to see that I was right about being lucky!


Now, I'm a little older, maybe a little wiser, still without that great LT relationship that all of us hope for at one time or another. But there are two great things that make up for all past misfortunes: 1) I am free, healthy, and learning that life is a great gift and great joy just to live it every day, and I won't let any stupid girl take that away from me, and 2) My heart is still open to the girl that can show me that she really deserves my attentions, but she would have to show me a lot, because I am very careful now.

I remember meeting you and her at MTB, and seeing the joy that you two shared and it lifted my heart to see it. So I feel bad for your pain, and bad to see my own belief in the ideal of romantic love knocked down a notch, its' shine tarnished once again. It seems to further my current sense that love is for the moment, to enjoy while you can, but don't invest more in it than you can afford to lose, because it may just be a wonderful illusion, as fleeting as the image of a lake up ahead of you as you drive through the desert on a sweltering hot day. Enjoy it while you can, wallow in it, soak it up, indulge in it like an addict mainlining heroin, driving the needle deep into his vein, then let it go, and NEVER EVER let a girl hold your relationship with her as hostage for a ransom of gold!

Hi Jaybee, yeah I remember that night at MTB. I had to take her out of the soi so she could puke on a tuk-tuk....too many black deaths.

I have now become so jaded now, I am sure I will heal quickly.
The funny thing (or not) is I feel guilty for no longer being able financially (medical bills have nearly wiped me out) to take care of her as seems to be the custom of their culture and society. Hence, I lost her.....or was I sucker all along?.......
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Old 26-08-2006, 14:28
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wake up in the morning, boom-boom lady from disco night before.
take afternoon short-time with another lady.
hit the gogos at night for lady #3.

everyone has to at least try this once to see if you like it. i'm a little surprised at the number of people looking for long term relationships with WOMEN, bgs or no.

that was my lesson of LOS, that i just like women, especially small, slim, fit, tan asian women. but imo they are fairly interchangeable. i even think in the past in farangland i've convinced myself i was "in love" when i was really "in love with the p***y". my first trip i settled down with a girl for 3 weeks. second trip i butterflyed big time. second trip was alot more fun.

also after having spent 9 weeks in LOS i'm now an expert
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Old 26-08-2006, 17:16
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Diz is correct- I should have elucidated a lot more. I was not specifically targetting bgs- everyone is on the make here. I prefer the old axiom of 'paying them to go, not to stay' and have a few regulars who can handle that. They realise I am here long term and accept that I am not an ATM ready to support them. 2 Auzzies with a sense of humour and who obviously have previous experience out here have just opened a bar off Nanai called the 'Sick Buffalo'- obvously one or the other has past experience. I have nothing against the women ( all of them!) out here doing the best for themselves but I just shake my head in amazement sometimes when i see the sums of money people are prepared to throw at them, only to see it squandered.
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wake up in the morning, boom-boom lady from disco night before.
take afternoon short-time with another lady.
hit the gogos at night for lady #3.

everyone has to at least try this once to see if you like it. i'm a little surprised at the number of people looking for long term relationships with WOMEN, bgs or no.

that was my lesson of LOS, that i just like women, especially small, slim, fit, tan asian women. but imo they are fairly interchangeable. i even think in the past in farangland i've convinced myself i was "in love" when i was really "in love with the p***y". my first trip i settled down with a girl for 3 weeks. second trip i butterflyed big time. second trip was alot more fun.

also after having spent 9 weeks in LOS i'm now an expert


thats the one thing LOS can do
a man can have pretty much any girl he wants and may not be use to that so will find it hard to commit
imagine its like being a rock star or sports star, imagine they live that life daily?
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Old 27-08-2006, 12:39
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thats the one thing LOS can do
a man can have pretty much any girl he wants and may not be use to that so will find it hard to commit
imagine its like being a rock star or sports star, imagine they live that life daily?

Aah yes- the rock star comparison. many a night i've leaned over to whoever was (un)lucky enuff to be sitting next to me in the bar, and tried to explain that i felt like tommy lee must have felt back in the day....



IMO every man should get a taste... but luckily 99% don't got the ballsac- else it would turn back into farangland...
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thats the one thing LOS can do
a man can have pretty much any girl he wants and may not be use to that so will find it hard to commit
imagine its like being a rock star or sports star, imagine they live that life daily?

More like Hugh Hefner..Asian style.
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Aah yes- the rock star comparison. many a night i've leaned over to whoever was (un)lucky enuff to be sitting next to me in the bar, and tried to explain that i felt like tommy lee must have felt back in the day....

I well remember the first time I rounded the corner onto Bangla, and, having no idea ofwhat to expect or where I was going, made my way down to Soi Seadragon, which was the first bar soi you came to in those days. I turned into the soi, and as I was strolling down it, suddenly I was mobbed my BGs come at me right and left. There I was, fighting my way through them with a grin on my face from ear to ear. And I remember thinking to myself, "so this is what it would be like to be a rock star!"
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And I remember thinking to myself, "so this is what it would be like to be a rock star!"

So, can we now also officially add the...

"RockStar Experience" (RSE)

...to the list of what you could get in LOS
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First to the OP, you have nothing to feel guilty about, but it is natural to feel guilt over possibly hurting another person, even if they are only out to suck you dry. You did her a favor by sending the goodbye SMS, there should be no doubt in her mind now and she can move on so should you.

Just a few days ago I sent a BG some money. I sincerely only did this as a one time thing not an introduction to sponsorship. I've known her for a year and she's always been good to me. The reason I sent money is she said it's low season right now and she's having trouble finding customers. She didn't directly ask for money but I got the hint, I also respected she was honest with me, there was no bullshit about being sick, buffalo's or needing to get out of jail. I would never ask her to stop working at the bar, I've suggested it's a good idea but it's a choice she has to make on her own, and not on my dollars. Most likely she is with another customer right now which I know accept and expect so it's not a matter of trying to put a little slice of LOS on layaway. I do think she plays some of the normal games, I think the sms she sent me about not enough customers may have gone to a dozen other guys as well, maybe they all sent money too? The point of me sending money was not to sponsor her, though I won't lie to myself, If it makes her lay on the sweet charm a little thicker on my next trip it will have seemed worth it. :p But I too have been down and out and had friends help me. I'm willing to help anyone I care about once, maybe twice but it does have a limit and I'm not looking to pay a fantasy tax to any BG while I'm trudging through the dull days of farangland. Basically I saw it as a gift, I sent about as much as I would have spent on a P4P girl here in the US so it wasn't more than I can afford to lose or may have spent in a night anyway. It basically was a crapshoot maybe it will make her turn into a darling teerak, maybe she has already forgotten me and is just waiting for the next bank wire to come in. I just know I didn't gamble more than I can afford to lose financially or emotionally.

I guess I try to balance my eternal romantic optomism with a bit of a hardened heart so I'm not totally taken for a ride.
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how much did u send to her each time in Thai baht? how frequent?
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Reading a lot of these posts is interesting- especially about looking for love one day with a TG. At the end of the day guys it’s most likely not going to happen with a bargirl- there are plenty of TGs out there who are not wh0res, perhaps only holidaying in places like Patong and Pattaya makes you think that every Thai girl in Thailand is a wh0re.

There are plenty of ways to meet ‘normal’ girls in Thailand who may or may not fancy you and may or may not like a date with you. But at the end of the day if you don’t want a charade and you want the real thing, then you need to do the same to get a girl ‘for real’ in Thailand as you do in England / the US / wherever you’re from. i.e they have to like you as well as you like them, and you need to put in a bit of work which may or may not be reciprocated.

Other than that, get yourself to Patong and nail some amazingly beautiful thai girls and don't worry about falling in love!!

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how much did u send to her each time in Thai baht? how frequent?

Rather a personal question to ask on your 4th post!!
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