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26-06-2006, 23:48
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haggling-thai style
im using an agent to trnasfer my dog to canada
we agreed on 55,000baht, that what i was quoted and now the guy comes up with a new expense everyday and basically my gf has told him to fcuk-off everytime and everytime he tells her he will call her back and the next day the new expense is wiped away. amazing that hes done this 3 or 4 times and each time he somehow managed to get the job done without the added expense 
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27-06-2006, 00:18
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Guess this must be the Thai way of trying to get extra baht,trying it on and when he is told "no way" going back to his original quote.
The sooner you get him out of LOS the better Paul. How long now?
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27-06-2006, 00:22
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i pick him up friday at 12pm. then i have to turn around and meet bm jimbulljag at 6pm, hes flying in to hang out!!
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27-06-2006, 00:29
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Both are arriving in Vancouver? Have a nice weekend Paul. I know you will 
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27-06-2006, 05:19
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Cool Paulie...it'll be great to have Bishop back with you...He'll be so EXCITED!!! Bet the climate is better for him...he will probably have to acclimatise!!! LOL Give him a lamb shank for me!!!  Marcia
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27-06-2006, 08:19
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Tasha my Dobe
Paulie here's a pic of Tasha when she was 2...she's 10 now but doesn't look much different...
This was when we got our final pass in "obedience" (3 passes needed in 3 separate trials) to achieve her CD Title...was very proud as this was Sydney's second biggest Show (Round Easter) The Castle Hill Show and we came 2nd in the ring out of about 11 dogs!!! I have her younger brother as well, Boris (Boris and Natasha as in Rocky and Bullwinkle LOL) he'll be 8 in September...he's still an overgrown puppy and will never change...She's the boss of course...LOL Marcia DOG.JPG
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27-06-2006, 12:49
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Hmmm...I Understand...best most stable dogs I've ever had...They are my babies...they are one of the things that are going to cost us big time to come and live in LOS for a while...we're gonna buy a house in Brisbane to house two Sons and two Dobermanns...then I know the dogs are looked after properly and are with family...Man I can't believe how I feel about these dogs...If I knew how deeply I would love them before I bought them...I would have thought twice!!! If you know what I mean... 
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27-06-2006, 22:23
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beautiful dog here in the states, doberman's were big in the 80's but havent seen too many lately, now all rotties bishop is up in the village now, my gf's brother-in-law, whos a vet asked her if eh could keep bishop but my gf let him know bishop is my baby, she told him for paul, bishop #1
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27-06-2006, 22:28
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thats funny, my gf said he turned his nose up to rice soup yesterday and all the girls were telling him that he only had 2 more days to eat thai food!!
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29-06-2006, 06:54
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very beautiful dog, looks a little different from most of the dobes I see here. Breeds can differ a fair amount from one part of the world to the next due to differences in breeding preferences, and sometimes overbreeding. Dobes were pretty popular back in the 70's and 80's, but a lot of the people who got them wanted them because they are very formidable dogs. Whether it is in their nature or was due to poor breeding here, I don't know, but I do know that the reason Dobes fell from popularity here is that they were very headstrong, and difficult for people who weren't really experienced and devoted dog people to control. Bit of a bull in the china shop syndrome, too many people getting dogs that they couldn't handle, and the dogs taking over. If everyone took their dogs and put them through strict obedience training, then this probably wouldn't have become such a problem, but most people seem either too busy, lazy, or just incompetent to properly train these kind of dogs. Rottweilers, while they can certainly be as formidable as Dobes, are actually a bit more docile by nature, as are most really large dogs.
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29-06-2006, 08:03
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jaybee, i took a second look and you are correct, she does look alot different than the doberman's in the states. a big difference is the ears, which in the states they snipped, or cropped, but also looks much leaner in the back and her snout looks more rounded compared to an almost pointed snout on doberman's here
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29-06-2006, 08:46
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Dobermanns are quite popular in Australia...there are many very committed and respected breeders here who show their dogs all over Australia and in a lot of instances around the world. The couple who I bought Tasha and Boris from immegrated from the UK where they were breeders of collies...Came to Oz and started to breed Dobes...the lady is now the Secretary of the Dobermann Club of NSW here and has many grand champions and show winners to her name...it's her life!!! The breed is quite a bit larger here in Australia than in the US...Tasha weighs in at about 28.6kg but Boris is quite a large dog at 32.5kg...This is large for a Dobermann. Mike always wanted a Dobermann but having such a large family and being so busy I refused to have one till I could give it all the attention it needed...ie: all the love, time and attention plus correct and formal obedience training...and don't forget the proper diet...So it wasn't till our fourth boy was 4 yeas of age and we had had a couple of break-ins (only in the yard but still) then I was ready for the Doberman... I chose a b!tch to start and went to formal obedience lessons twice a week..once with a group lesson and one private...the trainer was so impressed with our work that she insisted (along with the breeders who suggested I do obedience to start) that we Trial...we started training when she was 6 months and by 11 months was ready for her first Trial...we were so proud she came third in the ring and achieved a pass at her first Trial....we were over the moon!! However, trialing isn't an easy thing and lots of things can bring you unstuck!!  So it took a further, I don't know how many trials before we got our second and third pass for the Title...anyway the third pass was 3 months before her second birthday...pretty good for a Dobe as there aren't that many who do obedience...not like GSDs, Retriever/labradors and Boarder Collies who are among the Royalty/elite when it comes to obedience.When Tasha was 2 1/2 we bought Boris, the subsequent litter for Tasha's parents thus a full blood brother. I have really treated them like kids and I swear they're better than kids cause at least they do what they're told when they're asked and do it happily!!! LMAO As for Rotties...they just seem more docile because they are heavier and less agile...Rotties tend to be less predictable than a Dobes IMHO. My Dobes are bigger in stature than a Rottie just don't have all that weight and are much more active...bit like a racehorses really!!!  The nature of the Dobe is generally, if well trained, well looked after and loved, is very placid. They are a very, very sensitive dog which requires a lot of TLC...but I believe this to be a need for all dogs. They are terrific with children as well, the bigger the pack the better!!!! They are also, of course, a terrific guard dog...mine will call on duty and off like a switch with the proper commands. I believe there are no really "bad dogs" just "bad owners" who create unstable animals!! Thus giving certain breeds a bad name! as you never seem to hear about the really good stories of dogs just the bad ones  That's my 2cents worth!! Marcia
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29-06-2006, 08:51
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Ear clipping has always been banned here in Australia...tail docking has just in the last 2 years been banned and many of the big breeders are not breeding until they can perhaps overthrow this decision somehow... I always think that the American Dobermann looks so "forminable" as Jyebee says with the ears clippedl...makes them look really mean...note how soft Tasha looks with the lovely floppy ears...I have always disliked the clipped ear look!!! But it's in the eyes that you see the real softness!!
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29-06-2006, 12:40
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This is really true. The two very common problems with owners is 1)The people who want a big , mean dog to intimidate people, and encourage the dog to be mean and aggressive. They want people to fear their dog, and do so by failing to socialize the dog. Not only is this practice abusive to the dog, but gives the breed a bad name. At one time, I think that this was a problem with Dobes, here, but not anymore. Now it is the American pit bull that it is the choice of those types, and the pit bull , which was once considered to be a really friendly breed, and good with people, is now much feared and maligned with some communites trying to pass laws against people having them. 2) the other problem owner is the one who treats the dog like a spoiled child. Dogs need to be shown discipline and need to have a loving, but no-nonsense master. If a dog is not perfectly clear about who is his boss, 100% of the time, then that dog will become very confused, and potentially dangerous. A dog abides by the law of the pack, and every pack must have a leader(s). Quote:
When I said docile, I thought that might be the wrong word to use, but couldn't think of a better one. What I meant is that bigger dogs, like Rottweilers, tend to be quite content lying around doing nothing a good bit of the time. Not that they don't need their daily excercise, like any dog, but with that given, they can really be OK with spending a good bit of time being relatively unoccupied. As you say, Dobes are much more active, which can make them neurotic and lead to problems if they are confined for much of the day. That is what I meant when I said a Dobe can become a "bull in a china shop," if they are not properly treated, and given lots of opportunity to get their exercise.
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29-06-2006, 21:34
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You are right in what you say...these are all the reasons why we waited for the right time in life to have them...they do need lots of exercise and a good yard to run round in... Our dogs are spoiled but they certainly know who's the boss...that's the first thing that a puppy should learn...who's boss and also to be socialised with other people and other dogs. Obedience training is the best...one learns implicitly their dogs nature and the dog learns it's place. With American Pit Bulls...again bad breeders/owners who breed/own dogs to fight and be agressive...it is banned to breed Pit Bulls in Australia now...maybe the dogs with the "mean streak", it is bred into them by and/or inherited from the mean streak in their owners. It all comes back to, as we both tend to agree, good breeding and ownership for a good and stable dog whatever breed really.
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30-06-2006, 01:14
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5555555555 Sorry Marcia,but the phrase "lamb shank" means something entirely different in the UK. I can just imagine it now 55555555555555
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30-06-2006, 05:45
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Dawsey, never heard of it but I can take an educated guess that it's rhyming slang for the good old WANK!!! Would I be right??? A bit like a J. Arthur!!!! Yes it would indeed be very funny for Paul to give Bishop a "lamb shank" when he gets home in this case.....  But you never know with this forum....ROTFLMAO  Just joking, no offence Paulie of course!! Marcia
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30-06-2006, 20:38
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hey, bishop is up in the village with about 7 bg/former bg's. i think if he's lookign for a wank, better look there before he gets on that plane!!
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01-07-2006, 01:47
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Yep,you got it in one Marcia So many euphemisms for a tug
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