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21-07-2006, 20:24
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Will never happen, refer back to the previous posts about tuk tuk mafia 
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21-07-2006, 22:03
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You made no reference to the "tuk-tuk mafia" and therefore your statement is taken as read. A lot of people read this forum who are new to LOS and in particular Phuket. They read your post and are now under the impression that they will not be able to use meter taxis in Patong, which is complete nonsense !!
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21-07-2006, 22:22
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Ok maybe on in the foreseeable future, but at least the introduction of metered taxis was a step --- albeit a very small one --- in the right direction. I always thought that a bath-bus loop around Patong (incl. Nanai) could actually be quite profitable (like in Pattaya), say 10 – 20 baht. At least they would also get the business of the Thais (and maybe even reduce the number of motorbike taxis, and at the same time improve traffic safety). Not holding my breath though.
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21-07-2006, 22:26
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Yes that would be nice,,,BTW who is actually running the Tuk-Tuk mafia?? jesper_dk
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21-07-2006, 22:53
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This is VERY off-hand info (and may get shot down quickly), but my ex-GF works at a spa and one of her colleagues is married to a tuk-tuk driver. When I asked her she tried to explain (a bit reluctantly) that there were a few large “families” running the business (Muslims, not it matters really). They sort of cooperate, but also have their own turf to protect. A lot of internal fighting, as far as I could understand, which I guess is one of the reasons why it has been labeled a Mafia-like situation. Most of the top guys live in Kamala and Kalim, and judging by their houses, they do quite well.
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21-07-2006, 22:55
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I do actually think it is a slow change Steve.. I also remember when first seeing meter taxis and being real happy about them asking him if he could give me his number and come and get me.. He said NO WAY !! and then I lived over at the temple so only inside town by a couple hundred meters.. He said then he would get a rock through the window if seen driving in Patong without a fare in the car. Also likely a beating also. Then in perhaps the last year I think they can discretely get into town and pick up people via a phone call booking. And to top the icing on the cake I recently drove down beech Rd and saw a Blue and Red meter taxi stopped or kerb crawling in the middle of the beach outside McDonalds area.. No fare in the care and looking like it was ready to pick any punter up. So the times they are a changin..
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21-07-2006, 22:59
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I really don´t hope that you get into trouble for posting this  ...I heard somthing like what you write here from some friends in Patong...So i guess thats the true about the Tuk.Tuk bussiness...Not to say anything bad about Muslims because it will just be deleted by the MOD....but anyway  jesper_dk
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21-07-2006, 23:00
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Well thats good and is an improvement. And unlike someone else I am more than happy to admit that my info was out dated and I was incorrect.
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21-07-2006, 23:10
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I am told that behind the scenes owning and renting out a lot of vehicles are senior current and ex police.. I dont have names or families tho only roughly. As stated above many of the Tuk tuk drivers anre muslims and as is usual most of the more higher ups are phuket resident families.. Mates missus (phuket girl) previous Thai husband is well 'up there' in what is called the tuk tuk mafia.. One of his side jobs.. To discretely collect the 'stay open late' tea money (Stevem might well know him in this case)... Obvious police tuk tuk Mafia (I hate that term for a bunch of taxi drivers) tie in.
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21-07-2006, 23:33
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Thanks LIL for the info..i guess is just something we all have to live with and not ask any questions about it..Organized crime is every where...right? jesper_dk
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21-07-2006, 23:56
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Yeah well this is where I get a bit annoyed..
'Mafia' is a term used to act as a catch all for oganised crime these days.. But what is here is in no way organized crime.. Its just a street gang or similar thugish behavoir.. When I lived in Holland I would bump into some people who were professional life time criminals.. Some were gentlemen who would honour thier word, keep thier commitments, and not wish to harm anyone who did not first cause them harm, of course they lived outside of a legal framework of lawyers and police and so had thier own systems of debt collection and protection. Then there were others who basically became criminals because they were thugs who couldnt do much else except be thugs and had succeeded through being violent and intimidation.. Even then I would be hesitant to call them organised crime.. Most were in import export profession and many knew each other in biz or by reputation but mostly they were individual businesses.. Even that isnt a 'Mafia'.. A Mafia of bosses, lieutentants, and foot soldiers is a different league of organisation.. Something that is laughingly different from some guys driving noddy carts for tourists.. I have heard the term used for Tuk tuk mafia, Beach Rd Mafia, Jetski Mafia, etc etc etc.. What next ?? we have chewing gum Mafia or the flower sellers Mafia..
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22-07-2006, 00:01
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I get your point LIL,and i just got the clear picture of how it´s running.But still what can we do about it?...it´s all over the world issen´t it? jesper_dk
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22-07-2006, 01:10
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pfff...chewing gum Mafia....thanks for the laugh, LiL (On another note, I actually heard they are quite busy in Singapor.)
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22-07-2006, 02:42
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Don't ever laugh at the chewing gum mafia  - you will come to a sticky end
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22-07-2006, 03:09
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I think it would all depend on wether or not the current tuk tuk drivers would be willing to change their working practices and start operating the same kind of business as we see in pattaya. The question is, do they see this as worthwhile ? Would they make less money, as much money or more money per anum as they currently do charging extortionate prices if and when they do get a fare ? It would certainly be interesting to see what the average songtaew (baht bus) driver in pattaya makes anually operating the system they do, given that they drive up and down all down using up gasoline and only charge 10 baht farang/5 baht thai but take on many passengers at a time. Compared to the patong tuk tuk drivers 1 fare 1 payment system ? Would be interesting to see the results. But is is a damn shame as I think a circular route around nanai to beach road would work well, as would a route out to karon/kata/kamala too, similar to the baht bus going to Jomtien beach.
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22-07-2006, 03:36
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Song taews that operated loops around Beach Rd / Rat U Thit / Nanai perhaps doing a figure 8 would be a godsend to the towns public transport issues and tourist complaints.. Simple as that.
Get rid of a large complaint.. Get rid of the tuk tuk stranglehold.. Improve Phukets image.
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22-07-2006, 05:05
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Point well-taken. How about the "TuK Tuk Cartel," then. 
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22-07-2006, 08:07
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LOL the Tuk Tuk joint Venture.. Does that provide creche services..
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22-07-2006, 14:24
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.....Is that the posh way of saying crash !!!! 
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22-07-2006, 18:54
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Def. a Godsend... Would clean up beach rd and its surrounding areas... Discourage silly tourists from renting mototrbikes to save on travel expenses.. Although in defense of the tuk tuk (as much as i hate to do it) i think leaving a few say (15-30) tuk tuks will keep the novalty around for the tourist, or maybe changing the tuk tuk of phuket to the tuk tuk of bangkok. Although the bangkok tuk tuk may not be able to make it up and down the mountain... Oh Livin you can't forget the tailor mafia and the massage cartel...
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22-07-2006, 18:58
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Oh just to go back on the meter taxis... I know if you have their phone number they will pick u up... Even if in Patong, however if in patong i'm guessing you'd have to be in a "discrete" area... Like a hotel not on beach rd. Say Rat-U-tid... I HIGHLY doubt they'd pick up someone on beach rd... (but i could be mistaken) I know they have no problem picking up people from surrounding patong areas... Karon, kamala, Surin, Kata...
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22-07-2006, 19:07
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