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26-07-2006, 13:30
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Ever Spent A Romantic Evening With...
A "******" before you went to LOS? What about with a BG or FL in LOS?
The age-old debate around here used to be whether BGs were ******s/prostitutes or not. Lately it just seems to be conceded that BGs are just ******s, if going by the number of threads in which that term is used in reference to them is any indication. Although, granted, I've had my share of "wham-bam thank you Mam, here's your 1000 Baht" ST sessions, still there have been many romantic evenings, and peak emotional experiences, which I can't even imagine having with a prostitute in farangland. The definition of prostitution is an exchange of money for sex. Altho money usually does change hands when you go with a BG, often so much more happens that the money seems, if not entirely incidental, then certainly not the primary focus of the relationship. I guess what I am saying is that I don't think that it is really appropriate to call BGs wh0res, ******s,and prostitiutes. IMHO, some of them are, some of them aren't.
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26-07-2006, 13:44
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Yes.. Gone out to nightclubs and non bedroom things (meals / socially / clubbing / parties) with girls in Holland and Belgium.. Some I found out after meeting that worked as ******s behind windows some I met initially that way..
You get lots of black girls up out of the french speaking black africa (ivory coast / liberia / etc) in Antwerp in an area around the cafe d'anvers (nightclub) that end up in the club after working windows / peep + sex shows / stripping.. Around la rocka etc.. Or up in Amsterdam the Escape often has / had a very wild crowd in it. The fact that women work as ******s has never been something that really bothered me.. And loose moralled exotic africans always had a certain interest factor. Sorry but I do consider BG's as ******s.. Not a problem with it but they are.. And if you think money is not thier primary focus secondary to other elements then I think your kidding yourself thats the GFE they are selling you. Your giving someone money or gifts and they are sleeping with you because of it they are a ******.
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26-07-2006, 14:25
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Never been with a protitute before, my first time was November 2005 during my first trip to Patong without girlfreind. I'm sure some girls can develop feelings for a customer or like a customer enough to have sex for the sake of it and not the money but I believe that's quite rare. I believe, like the previous poster, money is the primary reason and the nice treatment is a hunt for extra benefits from the customer
 Though I must admit it seems quite real and they ceratainly make an effort in pleasing the customer in every single way not just in the bedroom. I can't speak for wetern prostitutes since I have no experience about them but as far as I have heard they come no where near a thai BG  I would also like to get my self a black girl since I have never been with one and I do find them quite facinating and attractive. That's all folks
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26-07-2006, 14:31
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Interesting, but I don't think you are the typical guy. Maybe I'm wrong about that. I think that sometimes, for some girls, that having a good time with someone whose company they enjoy is the primary focus. Which is not to say that the money is not usually a necessary part of the equation. Necessary, but not primary. I've known lots of BGs, who don't hesitate to go home alone, if they don't meet a guy they like to be with. And I don't hesitate to kid myself, if it is more fun that way! The BGs are mostly happy to indulge my fantasy. You won't get that from an American ******. BTW, the instances in which you met ******s in clubs after they got out of work don't count for this question, since they were not "on the job" when you met them, and I presume you were not paying for their services. P.S. I have dated ******s and once lived with one, but like you, those relationships were not ******-client relationships. ******s need BFs, too! 
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26-07-2006, 14:45
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I think the most difficult part of being a bg, is threre are customers you do actually like and have a nice time with. Problem the guy never stays, and there is always the next guy!
But it is sometimes like in real life, there can be more chemistry with one person then with an other. Then there is another thing. Some girls just get one night stands, they only know they will up ending sleeping with a guy, but not wich one. So if you like the girl, and ask her to staylonger/rest of your holliday, and you pamper them a bit, some of them are enjoying that. And yes, things can get romantic then, actually forgetting that you are paying her. But other girls just want to dance in the bar and get back to their friends in the evening. Sure is, that red light district in Antwerp, is not far from where my Thai restaurant was. Some very ugly, but some stunners, if you come there at the right time. I shag*ed the prettiest girl ever there (like a stunning 19 year old, with the nicest body/face ever, cinderella as a ******!!), but of course romantic....no!
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26-07-2006, 15:00
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Good point, Tintin. Sometimes we spend weeks, a month, or more with the same girl, every day, even 24/7 in some cases. Then there usually are feelings. Does that happen with farang prostitutes? I think that any time a relationship gets to the point where, as you say, you forget that you are paying for it, then it has crossed over a line that separates it from mere prostitution, and, in a real sense, makes it more(if not entirely) like a BF/GF relationship. At times when I have experienced this sort of feeling with a BG, it felt more like when you are giving an "allowance" to your wife or GF, who is either not employed or makes considerably less than you. If she is spending her time taking care of you, then why would you want her to suffer for her efforts by being broke. You want her to have a little money for clothes, make-up, etc., and in the case of BGs, a little to send home to Mom and her kids, as well. She, in turn, may feel affection for you as the one who is taking care of her needs, and treating her with the respect, kindness, and affection due a proper GF.
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26-07-2006, 15:13
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i never been with a prostitute before(exept that thaigirl in amsterdam  ) beacuse there is just sex for money but in los the girls or atleast the girls i meet were really so much more than just sex there were my good company in whatever i did there -dinners -shopping -guiding but of course with my money -but i dont see them as prostitutes they are bargirls and i really respect them for what they do but i cant say the same about the girls over here and how the scene are hereTom
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26-07-2006, 15:26
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and if i compare what my lovely filipina ex wife cost me everyday with what i get from a bargirl i say that bargirls seems like a dream come thru i wish i gone to Los a long time ago
 thai-filipina same same ? no way
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26-07-2006, 15:28
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U had a filipina girlfriend that costed you money??? That's a new one for me...
 I had one and during all the time I kept (still keep) in touch with her and the time we spended together in the Philippines she didn't cost me a cent... Other than the usual eat together and going out that I payed of course but that's what any woman will cost.
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26-07-2006, 15:39
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So many good relationships have come to an unhappy ending on account of marriage!
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26-07-2006, 15:48
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Hahaha nope, maybe that's when things turn up to be expensive
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26-07-2006, 15:49
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Sorry maybe mine was special ? just like all other poor guys filipinas ive heard of lol so make shure when you build her house-not to fast then you keep her longer lol -just kidding of course there are ppl living happy bouth with filipinas and thai women no doubht its just that im not one of them
good luck to you my friend Tom
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26-07-2006, 15:52
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I just wanna say that it wasn't my intention to laugh at you or your situation... I don't think it's a funny thing when a relationship goes sour, even more a marriage. But it was kinda a funny how you got me with you question about if I was married to her coz I didn't thought of that and as I said, maybe it's then when things change...
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26-07-2006, 15:57
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yeah you live and learn lol never again butterfly forever now on and maybe a LT sometime if shes nice
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26-07-2006, 15:58
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I think it may have turned up to be expensive if I had gone through and married her coz she spoke about wanting to pay for her sisters education (University) and helping her family. But during our "dating time" and when we met she didn't ask me or accepted money from me, in fact she told me she didn't want me to give her financial help coz she didn't want me to believe she was interested in money. I have been exchanging texts daily with that wonderful filipina girl for about 4 years now I gotta handle to her that she's quite percistant and not the type that gives up easely
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26-07-2006, 16:05
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take care Tom
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26-07-2006, 16:16
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it wasnt my meaning to craptalk filipinas so sorry if someone got offended Tom
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26-07-2006, 17:06
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I think you would find that many of the high end escorts in Europe will provide a similar GFE experience if you can afford the painfully high pricetag. Those kind of escorts will be sophisticated dinner companions, a guide to thier city, someone to spend time with as well as a sensual sexual service... They do cost 100's if not 1000's of Euros a day though so you need to be very affluent to afford that level of GFE type service back in the west. Hence many people would cut straight to the sexual side to minimize time spent. when you look at a per day charge in relative spending power its not far off what a BG gets per day in this country.
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26-07-2006, 17:18
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guess im a cheap charlie since i never would pay that kind of money here and since i know a couple of girls in that buisness i know what standard they have on their customers so i still think bargirls are much better and funnier company
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26-07-2006, 17:20
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Glad to know you didn't missunderstand my post and more over that you took the divorce thingie in a good way. And since it seems like you haven't been to Thailand yet and tried out the bar scene, I can only advice you to kinda follow or at least keep in mind the advice most of the BMs give out here about how things work, many of them have long experience and what they advice you it's not crap eventhough it may seem like it from time to time
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26-07-2006, 17:23
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Well often initial contact was cause they were fishing in the clubs late.. but I agree that probably they were more freelancing and enjoying time as well as hooking.. That probably lead into more relaxed interaction than clock watching. So sometimes money was exchanged, sometimes it wasnt.. But I agree that the fact that initial hookup wasnt in a bordello or behind windows probably made for a more social aspect. There was one woman / girl who I did get closer with.. She worked (windows) on the houseboats in Utrecht.. 1/4 Indonesian the rest Dutch (born in Holland) and super cute little thing.. Nicknamed 'Pinda' (peanut).. I would sometimes drop through while working (doing insane hours) and she was never in a hurry to clockwatch etc and we would chat and chill after etc.. She lived up in Den Haag (so could work not locally to where she lived) and did 12 - 7 daytime shift so would be free in the evenings.. Had a Dutch boyfriend but he wasnt live in and he didnt mind that she worked, I had a low opinion of that and I think so did she.. Anyway if I was still working at 8 or 9 in Amsterdam or Den Haag I would drop in and either take her for a meal or she would cook for me and we would chill for a few hours at her place. The fact was though I would be starting work at 4 or 5 am and would be knackered by evening and didnt sleep there (except by mistake) and with me living a few hours drive further was usually gone by midnight.. So I really didnt have any time in my life to spend any with her. Great little woman, confident, intelligent, spoke multiple languages, dressed classy, etc etc.. Wonder where little Pinda is these days. Hope shes moved on from the windows.
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