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Old 23-11-2006, 20:37
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Cool Moderators : 1 or 2 sign ons ??

Of first off I want one thing to be made absolutely clear - this is not intended to be a "bash the mods" thread !! Hopefully this thread will allowed to stay put and people can add their opinions which should be moderated if anyone oversteps the mark.

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I was recently reading another thread and this was written on one of the posts

"In my opinion, if moderators want to play on both sides of the line they should have two log on names."

I think that this may actually be a good idea, as it would allow mods to be "one of the guys" and join in with a thread without being seen to be policing it. Would do other people think ?

Moderators, Nicke - would this not make more sense ?? I have had my run-ins with Mods since I have been a member here but it would be nice to know when I am actualy disagreeing/debating/agreeing with another BM as opposed to a Moderator. Obviously if comments have been made which breach the board rules, then the Mods just quickly "change hats" and sort the issue out.

As I said, this is not intended to be anything other than a thread on whether it could work or not.
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Old 23-11-2006, 22:03
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Why not be anonimous and just post as A Moderator??? this would stop any thing ever getting personal, post as yourselves when not wearing that hat.
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Old 23-11-2006, 22:47
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I thought multiple nicks was forbidden...


Keep it as it is... Cant see that it is a problem just because it say moderator under the nick..
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Old 23-11-2006, 23:01
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then the Mods just quickly "change hats" and sort the issue out.


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Keep it as it is... Cant see that it is a problem just because it say moderator under the nick..

Got to agree with Tarzan , think it would cause more confusion if the Mods had to "change hats". As far as I have seen , a lot of the "moderation" goes on without most BM's even being aware it has happened , i.e a lot of Spam posts are deleted before most people know they been posted.

If there are any problems , these can usually be resolved by PM , so I don't think it would make much difference what "hat" the Mod was wearing.

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Old 23-11-2006, 23:40
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We know who the moderators are so whats the point if they had to sign in under a different name to delete something.
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Old 24-11-2006, 01:21
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"In my opinion, if moderators want to play on both sides of the line they should have two log on names."

I think that this may actually be a good idea, as it would allow mods to be "one of the guys" and join in with a thread without being seen to be policing it. Would do other people think ?

Moderators, Nicke - would this not make more sense ?? I have had my run-ins with Mods since I have been a member here but it would be nice to know when I am actualy disagreeing/debating/agreeing with another BM as opposed to a Moderator. Obviously if comments have been made which breach the board rules, then the Mods just quickly "change hats" and sort the issue out.


You raise some interesting points Diz, but I don't think this could work.

Firstly, multiple forum log ins are not allowed, so for the moderators to do it breaks the rules straight away.

Secondly, and more importantly for me, unless things have changed that I'm unaware of, I thought we already "joined in threads without being seen to police it".

If,and if that particular discussion involving a mod,signed in under another name, did need moderating for any reason, why log out to do it then log back in to be "one of the boys".

I honestly thought we were already "one of the boys". I count myself as one, nothings changed for me except looking out for stuff that shouldn't be here.

As another BM (faultytowers?) mentioned, if we are having a discussion,debate/disagreeing, even under another name,you would still know we were moderators, so I don't really see the point in changing the name.

Its a thought Diz, but I can't see it happening somehow.

All other BMs opinions count though, so I'd be pleased to read them.
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Old 24-11-2006, 02:07
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aside of the fact that it might be a huge waste of time for the mod,I see nothing different with it. I actually see them as bm.s
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cant see any merit in having 2 sign ins.
we all know who the mods (sounds like a tampon brand)are because its stated on home page.
have meet most mods personally and find them very honest and good to have a beer with.
as stated above they are only BM's who are helping the forum.
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Anyone else find this rather amusing after all these years, that this subject has just been brought up now.
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Old 24-11-2006, 03:12
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Anyone else find this rather amusing after all these years, that this subject has just been brought up now.

Well its only been brought up by MrDK and Diz because of two BMs who dont realise that mods are still BMs with opinions, and are free to express them.
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I understand the meaning of this post. But dizzbuster, it is like this on every forum. Your idea is good, but would not change anything.
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Old 24-11-2006, 03:42
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Well its only been brought up by MrDK and Diz because of two BMs who dont realise that mods are still BMs with opinions, and are free to express them.

But I'm just a dude that has found a niche in life, so what in the hell would I know. And as NB just said, its like this on every other board. Although on another board I participate in, there is a separate "moderator" sign in, but it isnt used, as its a pain in the butt to sign out and sign in again, and no one even thinks about it.
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Old 24-11-2006, 03:56
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Well its only been brought up by MrDK and Diz because of two BMs who dont realise that mods are still BMs with opinions, and are free to express them.
I very much realize that Dawsey. When I brought up the issue, the intention was only with respect. If it came across otherwise, I apologize for that.
The reason I brought it up was because of my limitations (board rules) in replying to snide remarks from a moderator. If Diz were to make such remark towards me, I may choose to flame him back; that is well with in the rules of the board. I do not have that liberty when it comes to a moderator and in principle I don't think it would be right if I did. So what is one to do when a moderator makes reference to ones threads and posts as stupid, when in fact it that very thread (255382) was a genuine attempt to start something positive to offset many similar but negative threads.
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I dont want today to become another yesterday, so lets leave things go now. But to just answer your post

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The reason I brought it up was because of my limitations (board rules) in replying to snide remarks from a moderator. If Diz were to make such remark towards me, I may choose to flame him back; that is well with in the rules of the board.

Flaming anyone is againt board rules, regardless of who it is.

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I do not have that liberty when it comes to a moderator and in principle I don't think it would be right if I did.

Why not. As I tried to explain yesterday we do get involved in discussions as as a normal board member. The only issue is where a moderation decision has been made, and in this case the decision should be accepted. Otherwise any post by a mod is just to be considered as another post by another member.

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So what is one to do when a moderator makes reference to ones threads and posts as stupid, when in fact it that very thread (255382) was a genuine attempt to start something positive to offset many similar but negative threads.

I think you should reread those messages, I wasnt referring to the post but to a comment in the post. Also its not really consider good etiquette to bring up PM discussions, as the mods never will do that.
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Old 24-11-2006, 04:35
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But I'm just a dude that has found a niche in life, so what in the hell would I know.

Since I guess I've been the (grumpy to my own opinion) 2nd BM from yesterday, I would wish that all moderators on the net would be as easy going, open minded and encouraging as Dawsey.

Jeez, I've seldom met such a critical person in live as you Stevem, and I really hope I will meet you sometime and have the opportunity for a good chat in person. It takes a while to get used to your style...certainly not easy for every newbie to handle. But as I said yesterday, you are very constructive as well !!!

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Jeez, I've seldom met such a critical person in live as you Stevem, and I really hope I will meet you sometime and have the opportunity for a good chat in person. It takes a while to get used to your style...certainly not easy for every newbie to handle. But as I said yesterday, you are very constructive as well !!!

Yes I am guilty of speaking my mind and being very blunt and straight to the point, and for those that dont know me, I guess comments can be taken the wrong way. Thats probably why its you newer guys that are having the issue at the moment.

Dont worry dawsey will change, the task at hand has that effect on you.
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Hope he got some spare time in his busy schedule If not, don't worry, I'll take it light till then...
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Hope he got some spare time in his busy schedule If not, don't worry, I'll take it light till then...

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Anyone else find this rather amusing after all these years, that this subject has just been brought up now.

To be honest I sometimes would agree on the issue.

Is this the moderator typing or the BM, in the first case I would suggest a look in the mirror as I feel the undertone in the message is giving me a strange feeling and not suitable for a moderators post.

Maybe that is just me. Just happen to have that feeling sometimes with moderators posts that i think, moderators can you moderate this please. I firmly believe in lead by example.

Not personal intended as I really would not know which mod it was that gave me that feeling last, just what the remark was.
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l would say it works fine now.....Mods should be allowed opinions etc.......there not puppets......well most of em aren't
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I know that no one cares what I think but I have thought for a long time that one should be either a moderator OR a forum member,not both.A couple of the mods have in the past made a lot of snide,disrespectful comments that would not have been tolerated by other members AND were not tolerated
by other members.(In that members were moderated for similiar comments).
If the moderators job was simply that,to moderate,the forum would run more smoothly.
As to it only being brought up now-that's simply not the case-any time any criticism was broached-it was deleted and told that all would be taken care of by PM.
I am sure I will be grilled/broiled and grated for this next statement but I
think it is time for a change of moderators and no,I do not want the job.
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