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I totally agree with you. That's actually what happened with me too. Spent 8.5 years at one company, then the competition came after me so I negotiated to keep the 4 weeks holidays with the new company. I think it has a lot to do with whether the employee is out there looking for a job vs a company out there looking for a good employee... 
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30-12-2006, 03:38
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Hmmm...
Work in progress. I am planning a 3 month tour next/this time. I'm not sure how the boss is going to take it. Its probably going to involve getting my 22 days holidays not including weekends, so I am entitled to 5 weeks off (approx) with pay. The other 6 weeks will be unpaid leave... I hope the boss goes for my plan, otherwise I'll leave... Which I might do anyway and get another job when I get back. 
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30-12-2006, 03:38
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How do you figure working realy hard just to get away from work is a good sollution? Life is short.
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30-12-2006, 03:48
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what i was saying is i have a time-sensitive job i need to be here, day in, day out whereas some other jobs, you can put in extra hours to get more time off
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30-12-2006, 03:55
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30-12-2006, 04:01
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as livinlos said, if you run your own business you make your own schedule.it may be worse than being enployed though. 
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30-12-2006, 10:18
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That's my dilemma. But after canceling my trip to LOS in OCT I have rescheduled so I will be in Patong at the end of JAN, I look forward to drinking a few beer Chang and meeting some BM's at MTB. Two days BKK Seven days in Patong then back to BKK for the last Two.
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30-12-2006, 11:23
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Pad Mc, please don't take my comment below personal I have not reason to do so and I mean no disrespect ....
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If I was between jobs I would probably take a 2-3 month tour my self.
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30-12-2006, 18:05
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Self employed and I can get 3 weeks of each year. In our bussenissarea we depend on the holidays of the people who work in the housing construction. Since they have their fixed holiday we can also get of at the same time.
Wintertime is better for us. Housing construction is running low then due to weather circumstances and we can repair or make stock. So wintertime means half days work fully paid. Too bad I can`t get of then.
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30-12-2006, 22:50
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No problem MrDK, it’s a reasonable question... Where I work (at the moment!) taking this amount of time off is not that unusual. A guy I work with got married a few months back and took 3 months off... My position in the company is a (fairly) junior one, and if I walked out tomorrow it would be no great loss to the company, apart from the inconvenience of training up another member of staff to do what I do... In fact if any member of staff walked out it wouldn't be that great of an issue for the company. In the last few years I have changed jobs several times. I work in IT (network support mainly) and there is always scope for moving jobs (at the moment anyway!!). I am also considering just doing contract work and possibly moving out of Ireland altogether. On top of this... I am single, no kids, no mortgage or any other significant debts… I am not really a very career orientated person and never was! Have a good new year! We may bump into each other in LOS sometime... 
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30-12-2006, 23:42
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Pad Mc,
Do want to add that one tend to compare most with ones own situation, in this case I compare with the company I work for. Here there is months of training for most employees and most of the time when we lose one it is a real loss. (Our average tenure for non assembly workers is over 11 years). As an IT person (at least around here) you wold hold a different card entirely, with a shortage, you can always find a another job.  Happy new year to you too. Having read your last trip report and many posts, it would be great to cross your path in LOS.
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I just quit and went for three months, but they wrote it down as a leave of absence. even though i work full time, they consider me a seasonal work. meh, they treat me like a number, i treat them like a number. i'm going again sooner or later, they don't like it, well I'll just get a new job, wasn't looking for one when i got this job. i can get one again.
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02-01-2007, 13:47
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i get 5 weeks a year plus bank holidays. 3 weeks of this i can take in one hit if i like!
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Can someone explain to me how all these countries that have these liberal vacation policies and unpaid leave can compete with countries like the US and I would assume Japan? The labor costs would seem to be a huge disadvantage. Also the disruption in the work flow this must cause. Are the economies so strong that the workers can call the shots?
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24-01-2008, 21:02
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In our industry in Holland we officially have a 38 hours working week. In practise we do 40 hours. The excess hours are compensated by 13 days annually. About half of these days can be fixed by the company e.g. between Christmas and New Year. The rest is at you own choice as long as you take them before June 30 of that year.
Next to that we have 25 holidays plus extra days based on your age and number of years you work for your company. In my case it all together adds up to about 45 paid holidays (= 9 weeks) per year. Not bad. If we don't take them all in a particular year, you can carry them over to the next year. So 2008 I started with 83 days.
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25-01-2008, 00:39
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I have 2 friends who work in the Norweigen oil sector, they work 2 weeks on an oil rig, and then they spend 4 weeks in the bar, nice if you can get it i reckon.
All the time off sounds very good, and it can be, but it has had a bad effect on me in that i drink too much and damaged myself, i am currently considering going to work in Egypt and giving up my 5 months a year off in exchange for 6 weeks, but being able to have a somewhat more steady lifestyle and a life outside of work in that country. We shall see what happens.
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I would love to have the challenge of having too much time off and still get paid. I am up for it!  I am also up for the challenge of winning the lottery and having too much money. Bring it on!
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25-01-2008, 04:17
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I understand what you are saying but life is more than work, quality holiday time may make people more happy and in harmony and thus being more efficient while working.
In Sweden people have 5 weeks by law, another week may be given to long time employees. Other weeks by working over time or on weekends/holidays, that can usually be paid cash or saved for holidays. My 4th trip to Thailand was a 5 months holiday, unpaid leave. Usually you cant do that without valid reasons, e.g. study. But I had a good boss and he just wrote study to allow my leave. The trend is also going into shorter weekly hours, its costly for the companies, but good for the employees. Life is more than working, so I think that is right. France is going the opposite way, and increasing working hours again as it become too expensive. I dont know why US seems to be different from Europe. I dont want to have a work that just gives me 2 weeks a year, 2 weeks is nothing. Quote:
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25-01-2008, 05:01
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I'm not saying it's a bad thing. Believe me I am much more suited for your countries vacation/labor policies than mine. My question was just in general " How do thes countries compete for the bottom line with such an inconsistent work force?" I just found out that these countries have a much lower corporate tax rate than the US that more than compensates for the higher labor costs.
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I've been told, a happy employee is a productive employee. After talking to several Japanese friends of mine, I know for a fact that the Japanese rarely take all of their accrued vacation days. What's odd about that, is everywhere you go, you see the Japanese tour bus going around. For me, my motto is " all work and no play is bad for my mental health".
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Thanks for answering my question. 
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well to extend the same argument it would be hard to see how the US could compete with Thailand what with its poor pay, no annual leave and one day off a week (or in some cases a month).....I guess the answer here is in the value added by the worker and what market it is actually sold into......read price for that
I can't remember the last time i bought anything manufactured in the US...and I only buy cars and luxury food + clothing items outta Europe....most of the rest comes outta the China/Thailand/India/Vietnam asia axis...even many of the so called US and European "brands"
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