I have a question..

[Jaws]

now this question was talked about before but I missed the answer or at least the end of the discussion. Question is " Do they still sell Carlsberg there or is now considered an imported beer and too expensive " Just curious as I don't really enjoy Heinekan.

[geespot]

Hi there

re your question regarding Carlsberg

Still selling at the moment, this is not an imported beer as it is brewed and distributued under licence by Chang Beer in Thailand. I have heard there is a dispute with Carlsberg and Chang so supplies may be about to dry up. All you need to do is look at the price to know this is not imported (same as Heiniken) 54% import duty to bring import beer to Thailand

Question for everyone - If you could have a cold bottle of stella say for the price of a Corona - would you buy? or what other preference would you have?

[IRISH JONNY]

Originally Posted by geespot

Hi there


Question for everyone - If you could have a cold bottle of stella say for the price of a Corona - would you buy? or what other preference would you have?

YA I WOULD DRINK A BOTTLE OF STELLA.....THEN AGAIN I DRINK MOST BEERS EXCEPT FOR HEINEKEN[DO NOT LIKE THE AFTER TASTE].....
JONNY....

[Nicke]

I havent been able to order Carlsberg for 10 days or so now, none of my suppliers are able to deliver. But I know Dragon still sells it, either they have a big stock or a supplier who has.

I am really going to miss Carlsberg. Now we have only one "Farang" beer left locally brewed, imported beers are much more expensive.

Originally Posted by geespot

Hi there

re your question regarding Carlsberg

Still selling at the moment, this is not an imported beer as it is brewed and distributued under licence by Chang Beer in Thailand. I have heard there is a dispute with Carlsberg and Chang so supplies may be about to dry up. All you need to do is look at the price to know this is not imported (same as Heiniken) 54% import duty to bring import beer to Thailand

Question for everyone - If you could have a cold bottle of stella say for the price of a Corona - would you buy? or what other preference would you have?

[Nicke]

I searched for news regarding this dispute and found the following article from Bangkok Post, 14 February.
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Legal dispute halts Carlsberg production

Case pits Charoen against Danish group

Local production and distribution of Carlsberg beer in Thailand has been halted as the legal dispute between Thai liquor tycoon Charoen Sirivadhanabhakdi and the Danish brewer Carlsberg A/S escalates to another level.

Production from the Wang Noi facility in Ayuthaya, owned and operated by Carlsberg Brewery (Thailand), a joint venture between Charoen Sand Carlsberg A/S, was suspended on Tuesday, along with distribution.

Carlsberg Brewery (Thailand) attributed the suspension to legal constraints pending the outcome of ongoing arbitration between the two parties. Carlsberg is the country's second best-selling premium beer behind Heineken.

The dispute arose six months ago when the two sides were unable to establish ``constructive co-operation'' and subsequent attempts to mediate appeared irreconcilable, prompting them to refer the matter to an arbitrator in London.

Chang Beverages Pte Ltd, a Singapore-incorporated firm controlled by Mr Charoen, claimed that management changes at Carlsberg Breweries A/S (CBAS) in 2001 led it to unilaterally attempt to end the Carlsberg Brewery (Thailand) joint venture that started in March 2003, by removing several Chang-nominated directors.

Thanit Thamsukati, an adviser to Mr Charoen, said yesterday the suspension of production and distribution of Carlsberg would last until a verdict from the arbitrator is available.

``We don't know when the outcome from the arbitration will be in place but we hope it will be positive,'' he said.

While several grocery store operators in Bangkok said yesterday that they had been able to get new supplies of Carlsberg, Mr Thanit said what was being distributed was the last remaining stock already delivered to wholesalers.

The absence of Carlsberg supplies will leave a market vacuum that will be taken by by its rivals, notably Thai Asia Pacific Brewery Co, which brews Heineken under licence from Heineken N.V of the Netherlands.

Heineken claims an 80% share of the eight-billion-baht premium beer segment, while Carlsberg claims 20%.

Carlsberg Brewery's Wang Noi plant, built at a cost 3.64 billion baht, is one of largest Carlsberg facilities in Asia and has been producing Carlsberg under licence since 1993 with brewing capacity of 150 million litres a year. The 30-year licence expires in 2020.

However, Carlsberg Brewery (Thailand) last year produced only 33.6 million litres when the market for premium beer rose by 6%. This year's market growth is expected to be 7%.

[Jaws]

Thanks guys for your replies. It looks like I'll have try another beer. If they end up having to import it in then the price goes up and as every one knows I'm a cheap bastard.

[butterflyblonde]

Originally Posted by Jaws

Thanks guys for your replies. It looks like I'll have try another beer. If they end up having to import it in then the price goes up and as every one knows I'm a cheap bastard.

I just to stick to Singha and Chang beer , they knock your head off

[Bafana]

Originally Posted by butterflyblonde

I just to stick to Singha and Chang beer , they knock your head off

When in Rome do as the Romans do...

Besides I don't like Carlsburg so this news is not causing me much anxiety .

Additonally when u live in Singapore and pay anywhere between S$9-18 for a pint of any type of beer I tend to zero in on the cheapest houch I can get when I am on holiday as part of self therapy for having to pay Singapore prices all the time...

[eric-the-viking]

HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM Stella droollllllllllllllllllllllllll
oh yes i do like a stella

[geespot]

Originally Posted by eric-the-viking

HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM Stella droollllllllllllllllllllllllll
oh yes i do like a stella

for eric the viking

watch this space for future developments!!! re stella but be patient - end of summer