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Old 06-04-2007, 00:15
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Most members on this board will never be in a position to have an even half ass conversation in Thai, yours truly (maybe) included.
On the other hand many of us know some very basic phrases such as:
Sawasdee khrap (or kha): Hello
khorb koon khrap (or kha): Thank you
Aroy or Aroy Mak: Delicious or very delicious
Mai ben rai: Never mind
Chok dee: Good luck (also used as in cheers)

Question for those who master more than the very basic (or more than has been mentioned here):
Which [new] simple phrase(s) would you teach a person who is on/near bare grounds?

Maybe you should teach your gf to speak danish...it seems that you want to spend the rest of your lifes with her..So she teach you thai and you teach danish.....Or maybe thats a suprice for her as your travel "ticket upgrade"....Sorry in my eyes is a load of BULL:::T
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Old 06-04-2007, 00:20
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Maybe you should teach your gf to speak danish...it seems that you want to spend the rest of your lifes with her..So she teach you thai and you teach danish.....Or maybe thats a suprice for her as your travel "ticket upgrade"....Sorry in my eyes is a load of BULL:::T
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Cool down, J, we're talking about learning Thai here so Danish is irrelevant. Start a Danish thread if it makes you feel better.
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Old 06-04-2007, 00:23
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Cool down, J, we're talking about learning Thai here so Danish is irrelevant. Start a Danish thread if it makes you feel better.


But if you read all the other threads by him then maybe you will understand.....But i am prepaire to get some serious beating with this post.
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Old 06-04-2007, 00:28
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But if you read all the other threads by him then maybe you will understand.....But i am prepaire to get some serious beating with this post.
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I often read DK's posts, J, like I'm reading them now, along with yours. He usually makes a contribution to the general knowledge, which with all due respect, please don't be offended, you could be doing too.
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Old 06-04-2007, 00:33
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I often read DK's posts, J, like I'm reading them now, along with yours. He usually makes a contribution to the general knowledge, which with all due respect, please don't be offended, you could be doing too.

Thats your opinion RobRoy...And i have mine....Please tell me what kind of knowledge??????? because i did not find it on my search...sorry
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Thats your opinion RobRoy...And i have mine....Please tell me what kind of knowledge??????? because i did not find it on my search...sorry
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Just read the thread title, we know you can, so let's get back on topic, please.
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Old 11-04-2007, 15:41
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Yep, got a new one. It accidently slipped the lips of my wife yesterday evening while she was burning down some bushes in the garden and burned her fingers.

A quick: Gnui No <--- which I guess means something like, oh sh*t.

She never would teach me bad words, but this one I now use all the time and she's not so happy about it 55555555
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Old 11-04-2007, 16:09
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Heres a useful phrase that always gets a grin and , well ,can be used in lotsa situations.....
TG ," Hai 3000" ( Give me 30000)
You, " Pen pai m'dai " or " Pen pai mai dai!" ( Thats impossible!) 555

Good one Mai Chob..... pen pai mai dai.....

I must memorize this one as it can be very useful next month...55555555.....
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Old 11-04-2007, 16:29
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Yep, got a new one. It accidently slipped the lips of my wife yesterday evening while she was burning down some bushes in the garden and burned her fingers.

A quick: Gnui No <--- which I guess means something like, oh sh*t.

She never would teach me bad words, but this one I now use all the time and she's not so happy about it 55555555

Careful with that one, dude.

She may have said : ngoh ngao (sounds like nor no, both falling tones) which means stupid.........OK to call yourself stupid when you've made a mistake (ie burning yourself when using fire) but could backfire if you use it outside the home.
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=Mai Chob; My book says 'official document ' is 'ekgaan san' but nobody u/stands me .What do you suggest I use?


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I'm not familiar with 'ekgaan' for official, but one of the problems you may be having is that you have the adjective before the noun as we do in english.

you might try 'saan ekgaan'

Alternatively try saan (rising tone) dtraa (mid tone), literal translation = document official.

Would you believe it, I came across the term 'egkaan san' for the first time today (within days of the above post). It was used in relation to completion documents handed over at the end of a construction contract. It sounded more like: ega saan (to my ear) and was said as written with the adj before the noun.

If you're going to use 'saan dtraa' though, say that as written (noun then adj)
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Old 11-04-2007, 20:08
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Err...not sure what you mean, Mai Chob. Isn't 'talk' and 'speak' the same word in English, 'phut' in Thai.

I know Baawk (low tone), to 'tell' ??

Can you give us an example of what you mean?
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Don't apologize dude, I got all the time in the world....

'thaam' (rising tone) : to ask.
'baawk' (low tone) : to tell (Thai, not Isaan dialect)
'phut' (falling tone) : to speak
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khaaw (rising tone) : give
generally accepted as polite speech, eg. 'khaaw bin duay' which literally translated is: 'give bill also' but actually means : 'check, please' or 'bill, please'

yaak (low tone) : want
Just from personal experience, if you're shopping and have negotiated a deal you would indicate your desire to make a purchase with : 'Yaak dai, khap'. I'm pretty sure this is accepted polite speech. (JB, can you help with this one?)

There is also yaak (falling tone) : difficult
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khaaw (rising tone) : give
generally accepted as polite speech, eg. 'khaaw bin duay' which literally translated is: 'give bill also' but actually means : 'check, please' or 'bill, please'

yaak (low tone) : want
Just from personal experience, if you're shopping and have negotiated a deal you would indicate your desire to make a purchase with : 'Yaak dai, khap'. I'm pretty sure this is accepted polite speech. (JB, can you help with this one?)

There is also yaak (falling tone) : difficult

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Khao (rising tone) means white, so I guess by khaaw you mean "khoh"(rhymes with law), and yes, it is rising tone. Khoh means "may I have", so in your example, it means "May I have the bill?" The word translated as give would generally be "hai," although hai also can mean "for" and sometimes "to". I think if you use Khoh to mean "may I have", you won't go wrong with that. Give is more general. Khoh is more specific. It's always worked for me.

Yaak is a word that is better translated as "would like" or sometimes "desire."
I always use it as "woiuld like" and that works well. In situations where you aretelling a girl yoiu want her, it then could be interpreted as desire. That is low tone. As you correctly said, falling tone means difficult, as in "Phut pasa Thai yahk maak! Chai mai?" To which she says, "Mai chai, phut phasa Thai ngaay. Phut phasa Angrit yahk maak!" That argument can go on forever!

Words that mean want are: Ao , as in "Mai ao, khrap!" (I don't want any!!) and dtongkan, which is a stronger version of want, and means more like "need," i.e., I want it because I need it.
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bproht (low-tone) = please

JB could probably answer this one better than me, but my impressions are:

We are brought up in the west with a lot of emphasis on our words, "please" and "thankyou". I think that the although the Thais have words for please and thankyou a lot more emphasis is put on the manner in which you are speaking. You mentioned, 'Khrap' at the end of the sentence negating the need to say please, my feeling is in saying 'khrap' you have, in fact, said the equivelant 'please' if you are asking a question. Similarly adding 'noi' at the end softens your speech/words and has the same effect eg. "yeuum thohrasap noi". Speaking clearly/properly is also seen as polite as oppposed to using slang or informal speech. I think the Thais feel it shows respect to the person you are speaking with and is equivelant of our "please and "thankyou".
The only time I've ever heard a Thai say 'Karuna' is a recorded message when I've tried to phone someone and the line is busy: 'karuna, raa sakhruu....' starts the message = 'please, wait a moment....'

This feels really difficult to explain, I hope you get my drift.......

Garuna is almost never heard in normal speech, because it is high class and very formal. You will hear it in airports, when they say "Will Mr. Dang please report to the .....", then when they say it in Thai, you will hear karuna used.

Often when you use the word "please," you are asking for something. You can just use the word "khoh" as discussed in the last post, as this is considered very polite, much more so than using "ao". But if you want to say, "Please may I have something," which I always do when I ask the guy at the money exchange to give me 500 Baht notes for some of the 1000s he has just handed me, then I add "noi" at the end of the sentence, just before the khrap, as in "Khoh haa roi noi khrap?" (May I have 500s, please?) Always works a charm! I sometimes hear the Thais also use na after the noi, but using khoh and noi na in the same sentence would probably be redundant, so I leave it out.
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im going to go do an introductry course of Thai (i have a phrase book alrdy) it will cost $195 for 16 lessons 2 hours each time - pretty good for the costs. if anyone else is in Aust/Canberra and wants to know where. pm me
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Maybe you should teach your gf to speak danish...it seems that you want to spend the rest of your lifes with her..So she teach you thai and you teach danish.....Or maybe thats a suprice for her as your travel "ticket upgrade"....Sorry in my eyes is a load of BULL:::T
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But if you read all the other threads by him then maybe you will understand.....But i am prepaire to get some serious beating with this post.
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J_DK, you obviously have not read the other threads as both you comments above are incorrect. Besides, if you want to reply to statements made in level 3, please do so there you flipping nimrod.
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please do so there you flipping nimrod.

You got me with that one , had to look it up as the only 'nimrods' I knew were 'a hunter' or 'a type of aircraft'.
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You got me with that one , had to look it up as the only 'nimrods' I knew were 'a hunter' or 'a type of aircraft'.
The American Heritage Dictionary offers two distinct definitions of a nimrod -- either a hunter, or a person regarded as silly or foolish.
What exactly is a nimrod?
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The American Heritage Dictionary offers two distinct definitions of a nimrod -- either a hunter, or a person regarded as silly or foolish.
What exactly is a nimrod?

Is this the "Let's Speak English" thread? Excuse me, I was looking for the "Let's Speak Thai" thread, don't let me disturb you guys. Carry on.
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Excuse me, I was looking for the "Let's Speak Thai" thread,

You'll probably find it here , in the "Thai language" section.
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Is this the "Let's Speak English" thread? Excuse me, I was looking for the "Let's Speak Thai" thread, don't let me disturb you guys. Carry on.
Mr J_DK pissed me off and Faulty asked me a question. Going OT is not out of the norm, however, should the mods choose to delete the posts you find inappropriate, I would be delighted.

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