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Old 20-05-2007, 23:00
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I said it before and I will say it again

After a five day holiday fling you are thinking this is a relationship??Get real

You liked your hotel room? I bet you don't send it money


Holidays are holidays -chill out

I remain an old cynic and even after ten years if my GF asks me for cash I ask what it is for.

I don't count myself a cynic, but I'm with you on this one, Crustasian. I'm not really against sending money, but it is out-of-line for her to ask for cash after such a short time together. Someone has told her farangs are rich and gullible, and she's testing it out.

If he really wants to pursue this relationship, he should lay down the law right now. Refuse the loan, and then he'll know how much she really likes him. She'll either stay because she cares for him or leave because she only cared for his money.
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Old 20-05-2007, 23:36
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I don't count myself a cynic, but ....

If he really wants to pursue this relationship, he should lay down the law right now. Refuse the loan, and then he'll know how much she really likes him. She'll either stay because she cares for him or leave because she only cared for his money.
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Damn straight! How dare she ask her boyfriend for bus fare to visit her Dad in a family emergency. Just cause she is broke from all those international phone calls to England. Cut her off with out a nickel and make her prove her love to you.

The cultural gap in some of these posts makes the Grand Canyon look like a sidewalk crack....

Good line about the hotel room Crustasian but if your 10 year GF said she needed the money to go visit her family we both know you would not tell her to "F" off. ....Enjoy.
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Old 21-05-2007, 03:06
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lokomotive. Post something!! What are you going to do with your 5 days
relationship? I guess everyone on this forum is wating the final chapter of
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Old 21-05-2007, 05:41
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I hope it's not too late for me to join this discusssion...! There maybe some hotels that require hospitality/tourism STUDENTS to pay if they want to do their field work/training in the hotel, especially the 5 star ones. But even in Indonesia, I don't recall knowing any hotel that will not pay its in-training staff. They will only give you a piece of contract saying that if you leave the job (you'll get your salary, of course) before the minimum time required to work there (to repay your training), you'lll have to pay some penalties.



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In the past when I was more single and had multiple girls who were regulars instead of one girl live in, I would have female friends have problems, and in general I would help out.. And 9 times from 10 I actually got paid back.. The 1 from 10 I didnt was I assume the farang tax.

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These girls often have real problems, they often are awful at managing money, and sometimes you can help without being made a monkey out of.. Its just hard to work out where the line is..

LIL, this comment is not directed to you, ok . It's just a general thought of mine, stimulated, from reading your post.
Yes, I think, if you're only their FRIENDS, they most likely will pay you back the money they own. But not when you are their BF/husband, I believe. A woman has higher expectation for her bf/husband. I am not saying that asking for money while you just start a long distance relship is ok. I simply pointed that when you have a special relship, expectation is higher. It applies to both the woman and man.


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Now, I disagree strongly with those who have said that all Thai girls eventually ask for money. It is not "part of the culture", unless you mean the bargirl culture.

One reason I knew my wife cared for me and truly saw a future with me, was that she always worked hard to save money - both hers and mine.

Later on, when we'd been living together a few months, there were times that she needed my help in sending money to the family upcountry. But at these times, she was obviously embarrassed and ashamed to ask for money, and my contribution was matched or exceeded by her.

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Yes, she's your wife and living together with you, that's normal for her to ask you for money - and it sounds better, as you are with her, you know her much better than if you're living thousands of miles away and only meeting her 2-3 times/year.

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Nice one, Dodger. I guess I should qualify. Not all Thai girls are gold-diggers.

But of course, all WIVES ask for money!
Agree hehehee... Well... I wish I would get my visa soon so that I can earn my own money...

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Send her the money.
You are making an investment on a great time this next July.
You are probably the only person she knows that has money, so she asks you.
Depending on how much she asks and how often. Some investments are not worth the results .

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A friend of mine just sent me a e-mail asking me for 10,000 Baht.
She says that she has nothing at the moment and has no one else to ask for the money. This girl has never been my "girl friend" but I really enjoy spending time with her whenever I am in Los. Ofcourse she promises to pay me back when I return to Los i July.....If she doesnt have the money now, shy should she have them in two moths time??
What do guys think about this situation ?
10 K is not so much money but I cant help feeling that she's using our friendship for her own benefit....

If you're only friends with her, you can assume she'll pay you back - but you have to clarify this to her before you send her anything. And re-clarify again that you'll need the money back someday. (but be ready if she doesn't pay, so that you don't feel hurt if she doesnt).

If during the time you become boyfriend-girlfriend, forget your credit balance with her, as she most likely will assume the money as your 'gift'



Mm.... I have to go to buy some milk. Husband's mates were coming last nite to watch some races, and there were many empty latte cups I found this morning in the kitchen
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Old 21-05-2007, 07:37
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Guessing you havent had the fast show your side of the pond ?? The 13th Duke of Wynborne..

YouTube - Fast Show - 13th Duke of Wybourne

I don't know why but I've always had an imagine in my mind of tintin looking like the painter guy johnny who goes on those crazy rants at the word black...
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Old 21-05-2007, 15:04
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Ones you start to feel that someone is not honoust with you then most of the times that feeling is thru.
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Old 21-05-2007, 21:16
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Mm.... I have to go to buy some milk. Husband's mates were coming last nite to watch some races, and there were many empty latte cups I found this morning in the kitchen

wow....sound like real party animals 5555

i hate having to clean up those pesky "latte" cups when i have friends over in the morning
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Old 21-05-2007, 21:56
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LOL yeah.. The ones at the bottom of the pool are a real pisser..

Bet they are feeling the caffeine crash this morning huh !!
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Old 21-05-2007, 22:34
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LOL yeah.. The ones at the bottom of the pool are a real pisser..

Bet they are feeling the caffeine crash this morning huh !!

and those nights when you are still up at 7am drinking lattes!!!
i need help 5555
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Old 22-05-2007, 01:08
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Unhappy reply and decisions

Hi everyone , I haven't replied because I was working during the week-end and needed to get away from thinking about it but it didn't really work . So here are my thoughts :

I do not accept the fact she asked me for money and gave me no time to think about it ( i repeat : she called friday morning @ 11am and wanted $$$ for Monday )...WTF? give me some time .

I did not consider her to be like all the others as she has a regular job and the last thing i wanted her was thinking of me being an ATM , i told her once I come we spend some time together, know each other and if you want you can come on holidays to the UK for 1 , 2 , 3 weeks .....because i like your company and want to show you around.

Called her Saturday night and she started crying and saying you do not understand me , i wait for you ( yeah right...) more crying , then she txt me today: Thanks for everything, I am sorry.

Sorry for what ? you first ask and then you are sorry to ask?

Uhmmmm....

I havent replied and i dont think i will for a couple of days. Thought to walk a different lane but i was wrong.

life is so complicated some times , no easy way in no easy way out.

You guys are incredible. Some many views, so many years of experience.

Have fun .
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Old 22-05-2007, 03:24
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If you can't handle a simple request for help the you should bail out immediately.
I don't differentiate too much between BG's and GG's but clearly it's important to you, just walk away - you're not equipped with either sufficient knowledge or assets to make this work.
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Old 22-05-2007, 07:45
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I do not accept the fact she asked me for money and gave me no time to think about it ( i repeat : she called friday morning @ 11am and wanted $$$ for Monday )...WTF? give me some time .

Maybe she didnt ant to ask, so puts it off until the last minute, hoping something else would come up.. In fact the sudden need for it ASAP makes me think it is probably a genuine problem or crisis.

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I did not consider her to be like all the others as she has a regular job and the last thing i wanted her was thinking of me being an ATM , i told her once I come we spend some time together, know each other and if you want you can come on holidays to the UK for 1 , 2 , 3 weeks .....because i like your company and want to show you around.

If you dont want to be the provider despite your immense difference in earning potential then consider your commitment to her, how much you do actually feel for her.. As you said yourself this was the sacrifice of one night out.. I am not saying you should or should not have sent the money but shes asked for what is basically a little thing and your hurt and put out. Why ??

As to the holiday.. Are you familiar with the process for getting her visa's ?? This is non trivial, requiring (usually) multiple trips to bkk, interview, application fees, etc.. Also is this OK for a 'good girl' to just leave her job for a period ?? This isnt just a case of having 2 weeks off and booking a ticket.

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Called her Saturday night and she started crying and saying you do not understand me , i wait for you ( yeah right...) more crying , then she txt me today: Thanks for everything, I am sorry.

Sorry for what ? you first ask and then you are sorry to ask?

A very basic and clear case of culture clash. If your considering carrying this on I suggest you very quickly get a book called 'Thailand Fever' and maybe even post her one too.. From what I have seen of it, it was a very clear guide to some of the social issues and differences that your running into, the male provider role (and get used to it being for her family also if this gets serious), the expectations and social norms.

If this is just some holiday fun and a nice person you met, you may need to make that decision and make that clear.. That probably wont be and easy talk. However if you do like this person enough to consider time together and start some kind of a relationship you need to get a crash course what that relationship will be like, and thats nothing like the 50:50 style relationships of the west you may have experienced.
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Old 22-05-2007, 15:34
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I would suggest we stop bombarding the OP with various opinions for a moment. Everything that has been said before has now been nicely summarized by LiL. Enough to digest for a year and enough to make an educated decision ;-)
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Somebody send him some roses so he can wake up and smell them!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Another good book that should be required reading before entering a relationship is 'Confessions of a Bangkok Dyck (gotta beat the spell check somehow!!)' the tales of a Kiwi PI over here. Clears through the muddle of tears before bedtime and 'u no unnastan me!' Mind you it may put some people off their true loves, some of who we know are out there and genuine. Its always difficult to generalise but when you compare the number of people who have been burned to the number who haven't its not difficlut.

prime example I was in a bar at the beginning of Dec, there was a wedding reception going on in the next bar for which the guy had put 100k behind the bar (name me any bar in Soi Easy that could hold 100k of stock- no wonder the momma san looked so happy!) The guy had met Tilak and first night given her 20k, 2nd nite 20k, 3rd day bought gold and sent money up north. 4th day they downtown getting married. His first trip to Thailand mid forties, obviously lived with his mum. By 1030pm Tilak passed out, the only one having fun was the katoey Maid of Honour running around in his posh frock with his t*ts hanging out. 2 months later I in next door bar with my friend again and I see the blushing bride back working, no ring on her finger. I say to my bedwarmer 'I thought she get marry?' She say 'they finish'. He go home to Mum with empty balls and empty wallet.
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sorry to say that youve been conned
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He go home to Mum with empty balls and empty wallet.

and who said TG's don't understand English.........perfect summation...short and sweet...........gotta love it.....another one for my book of BG quotes Simbo
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