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25-05-2007, 06:42
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Hiring a massage girl to bring on a yacht for a day
Hey guys…
Myself and 3 friends are in the process of hiring a yacht for a day cruise in June. It sounds lovely, reasonably priced, and includes fishing equipment, lunch, kayaks, snorkelling gear, and a two man crew.
We are contemplating bringing a massage girl along with us, for obvious reasons!
A few questions/issues I'd like to bounce off you:
One massage girl between us, or a BG each?
I feel like bringing a girl each would be a bit too much of a fuss. I for one don't want someone by my side the whole time. So I am leaning towards just having a massage girl come out with us who could give you a nice massage from time to time, with an extra if you should feel the need….
Approach:
It is obvious where you meet BG's.
What about a massage girl who would give extras? I have no idea where to begin, other then just approaching one a day or 2 before we go on the yacht. We would probably have to reimburse her employer though. Does anyone have any suggestions or even contacts? Is it unrealistic to expect her to spend a day with us out on the ocean, providing said service when requested? (It might help to add we are all in out early 20's and physically very fit looking ferangs!)
Prices:
We will be at sea for about 9 hours. I figure a 1 hour massage is about 300b, and basic 'extra' about 500b. If we multiply 800b by 9 (not that she would be working for 9 hours straight), I have come to 7,200b (1,800 each). Would that be a reasonable price? Not trying to be tight, but also trying to avoid over paying by 100 or 200%! It might be that 2000b would be plenty, or that 10,000b + is required. I have no idea really.
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25-05-2007, 07:03
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would go for a gal each......TGs aren't too big on multiple partners....
most BGs will be happy to do some massage....depends on how important the massage is to you...even the gals in massage places like Soi Kepsap aren't real masseurs......
best to just find some girls in bars/clubs etc who you have goten to know and like.....they would be more likely to want to spend the day with you and be more likely to ubderstand the shinanegans you want to get uo to.....
bear in mind most TGs are shy so they won't be doing anyting out on deck......up2u about payment but about 3k per gal for a freelancer would be reasonable IMHO.....depends on whether they know and like you.....some might just enjoy the day out......others who might see you as a high roller would expect big payments.....
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25-05-2007, 07:06
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I would bring at least 2 ladies on the boat and make sure that they are used to being on the ocean because if they are seasick you will not have any fun at all.
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25-05-2007, 07:24
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I would bring at least 2 ladies
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25-05-2007, 07:34
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Hm. Not keen on 'getting to know' BG's.
Basically just want to pay for a service and enjoy it.
With regards to not liking multiple partners, what is the difference for a massage girl between 4 guys for the day or working and maybe seeing 10 or 20 guys?
The yacht has private beds for privacy 
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25-05-2007, 07:36
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Also, regarding Thai girls being shy….. not the few I met last time! (I know I should change my username from 1sttimethai lol)
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25-05-2007, 07:52
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Since you already seem to know what you want and need then why ask us for advice.
Maybe the girl that you pick is not used to 8-10 customes a day.
If you are out on the boat for 8 hours then you only have 8 hiurs of massage time. Does she get to take a break? She will also be down below where she might not feel well because of the enclosed space and might need a breather before she can keep going.
What happens if the girl does get sick and it puts her out of commission, maybe you would have heeded my advice about 2 ladies.
Does she get to take a break to eat something?
What if your buddies do not like her technique?
Do you want me to keep going on with this or do you get the message?
2 girls between 4 guys will cost you nothing.
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25-05-2007, 07:58
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25-05-2007, 08:29
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If you are out on the boat for 8 hours then you only have 8 hiurs of massage time. Does she get to take a break? She will also be down below where she might not feel well because of the enclosed space and might need a breather before she can keep going.
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She would just be hanging on the boat. And as I said in my attempted price break down:
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If we multiply 800b by 9 (not that she would be working for 9 hours straight
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We will be fishing, swimming, eating etc etc. Pretty relaxed. Just would like a girl there for a bit of fun from time to time.
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What happens if the girl does get sick and it puts her out of commission, maybe you would have heeded my advice about 2 ladies.
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Advise noted. Would probably be wise to make sure they are comfortable with boats first.
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Does she get to take a break to eat something?
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Of course. She is free to have a good time too. It wouldn’t be an intensive day of slave labour. Just some nice company with a bit of fun.
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What if your buddies do not like her technique?
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We are not fussy. I think it is the novelty of having a girl out there that would be the best bit. If she is fantastic and what she does, even better.
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Do you want me to keep going on with this or do you get the message?
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Since you already seem to know what you want and need then why ask us for advice.
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No need for attitude. Why even bother logging in to the forum if any time someone asks a question it is a drag on you. Just don’t reply if it is so beneath you….
Yes I know what I want, the emphasis of my questions was how to get it. And also whether my estimation on a price was reasonable.
We would ideally like a massage girl for massages, extras, all 4 of us. I am sure it can be done. Would just like to know how people would recommend we went about it, and whether going for girls employed by a massage parlour is best? And if you would have to pay their employer…
Or if there are free lance types out there.
You get my drift. I know what I want, just not sure how to get it. I think it is a valid thread, despite your elitist negativity. Play nice.
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25-05-2007, 08:39
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Just take a few girls out there, let them know the deal and let them have a good time too ... and pay the fairly.
While a girl could give hours-on-hours of massage in a day, this is far from the routine. Most often a massage girl will be on duty 10-12 hours an day and have 3 clients if she is lucky.
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Nelson1 and I already gave you some suggestions, which I thought were extremely valid.
Then I gave you some answers as to why I said what I did in the first e-mail as you seemed to poo poo what Nelson1 and I said to you.
You would definitely not be getting any massages if the only girl that you had on board was hanging over the back railing puking her guts overboard.
And why would you want only 1 girl doing the massages for 9 hours as she gots more and more tired and finally has to take a break.
And wouldn't it be nice to have a long massage?
And I think you overestimate how busy these ladies are at their regular massage parlour job, especially in Phuket. If they were that busy during the day, giving extras all the time, why would they be at the discos freelancing at night every night trying to make extra money, or accepting offers from guys to meet them after work to make some more money? Some of these girls might only do 2 or 3 massages a day, so how are they going to do 8-16 on the boat?
How about the variety of having a massage from 1 lady and then getting one from the other lady later?
Your original response to our suggestions was extremely blase. Nelson1 gave you some good information and instead or repeating what he said I just added a little to it. Then after your blase response I was not sure that you read what we had said so I put it in a different form and more succintly. Well it generated a response so obviously you are now paying attention to what we said, which will be to your benefit.
Also, it would be good to have multiple ladies(and only 2 is fine) to keep them happy as you consider this more of a business deal than a fun day on the ocean. A happy Thai girl will be a lot more fun.
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25-05-2007, 09:12
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I dont see what the problem is.. Massage girl should be cool with this.. I cant see you guys spending 9 hours below decks getting one after another massages and if by any stretch you did as long as she got tipped appropriately I doubt she would be unhappy..
I would say this.. seems to me most TG's suffer travel sickness and seasickness badly, I dont know why this is but all my GF's used to get car sick etc.. This is something to really check.. Also, it will probably be nicer to take 2 girls instead of one, I can fully agree on not needing one each if your just after some casual company and fun but one girl can feel isolated, no one to talk to, intimidated without a mate, and also theres the possibility / probability of the crew (I assume your not going bareboat charter) of being looked at as the rent-a-wh0re dropping off downstairs every couple of hours with each of you, a second girl gives her some back up that.
I would say something like 2 - 3k base for a day plus good tips is fair.. If they are more working than relaxing then tip nicely, but I get the impression that out on the boat it would be a very nice 'jolly' with some nice foods and day so this is as much a experience too.. However (and I think this is a biggie you may not realize) TG's may dislike this outing far more than you realize, sailing and on the water is sun and water glare, suntan = brown and TG's HATE that with a passion, then add in sea sickness, then add in that the food catered will probably lean to farang dishes, then add in if one girl she will be alone, unable to speak thai, feel very isolated while you all have a jolly.. This is all part of my 2 girl thinking.
I have been amazed by the diversity of reaction that I have had out of very similar girls to going out on boats, mine loves it, tho she seems much less skin tone worried now than most TG's and when we met.. Thats just so deeply ingrained. Others have loathed and resented every second like it was an ordeal.
So my thoughts, 2 girls, assured a 2500 approx base, with food to include some Thai things to make them happy, probably picked from one of the more 'extras' type places as they will be the more sassy confident and not give a **** attitude about perceptions (they can really get shy out of thier comfort zone) somewhere like Nickys 2 etc.. We have grabbed girls from there for Valhalla hot tubbing for an afternoon and no probs at all with hanging out for the afternoon. Just go and get some massages and rapport going a few days before, amek the suggestion and see what she says (I bet its yes please).. Think little things like them bringing sun hats etc.
What boat have you found and selected ??
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I will add my 2 cents.. I agree with Seafox and Nelsonone, if you are planning on spending 1800 baht each for 1 girl, why not each grab a freelancer for 2000 baht and each have one on the boat, if it is just for the novelty of having them hang around? If you each get a BG or freelancer you just let them know the score and they won't be hanging all over you, most likely they will sit inside or at least out of the sun and let you do your thing, fishing, swiming or whatever.
And my last comment if there are 4 of you all getting extras, what did the guy do who is fourth on the list?? No my cup of tea to be the last guy after 3 of my budies have been there if you know what i mean..
But if you really want just 1 girl for the day, hit the disco a night or 2 before a do some prospecting, all you have to do is ask as for price, depending on the level of extra 1500 - 2000 per person is fair. you could also hit up Christines, I know they will let you take a girl out for the day but it is $$$
Take it for what's it worth, if it was me and 3 budies, I would do what MrDK said and bring 2 each and have a real party...
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I recently did a cruise on a larger yacht. Personally I completely don't get 3 guys with 1 girl unless spit roasting is your thing. Flip the ratio around and mac daddy it in style.
Bonus upside is they can then entertain each other. Or if they are sick or whatever, you got spares.
BTW, bring your own music on CD to set the party mood.
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Points taken, multiple girls it is
I just didn't want it looking like a big ***** fest. One girl looks like she is part of the crew. 4 girls, 4 guys, pretty obvious what is going on there.
Thanks for advise. Looks like I was willing to over pay at 7k for the day. 2 girls, offer them 3k each, food and drinks, should keep them happy?
Sounds like it will be fun scouting for the right two girls. Might have to sample a few first! lol
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Good for you ... and them.
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Might have to sample a few first! lol
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I would definitely agree with that...don't wanna get out there and find that one or more are suddenly starfish or simply not up for it.....
Despite the fact that they are doing it for money.....many TG's don't think of themselves as prostitutes...........and many of the guys in here are happy to believe that too........guilty of it myself
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Non-drowsy Dramamine at least 1 hour before leaving the dock is a must! At least 2-3 girls. Let them help shop for food and they will feel more part of it and not just hired help. Aloha Andrew
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Hey guys…
Myself and 3 friends are in the process of hiring a yacht for a day cruise in June. includes a two man crew.
We are contemplating bringing a massage girl along with us, for obvious reasons!
We will be at sea for about 9 hours.
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All sounds pretty horrible to me.
4 'guys', 2 male crew, ONE Thai girl who if things don't go well is prisoner on a boat for nine hours. Sex expected.
Pity the poor girl who ends up with you 'men'. 
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All sounds pretty horrible to me.
4 'guys', 2 male crew, ONE Thai girl who if things don't go well is prisoner on a boat for nine hours. Sex expected.
Pity the poor girl who ends up with you 'men'. 
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Well, there are different kind of girls with different kind of professions in life, and as long as they are not forced into it, it's just a business really.
Don't see the problem Bayleaf.
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Well, there are different kind of girls with different kind of professions in life, and as long as they are not forced into it, it's just a business really.
Don't see the problem Bayleaf.
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Hard to think of a scenario where a girl is put in a more vulnerable position than on a boat with six men and no excuses because she's on 'hire'.
The OP might be a good bloke and his 3 mates and the 2 crew but if they are not? 6:1 ratio
Still as long as you are happy with it.
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Hard to think of a scenario where a girl is put in a more vulnerable position than on a boat with six men and no excuses because she's on 'hire'.
The OP might be a good bloke and his 3 mates and the 2 crew but if they are not? 6:1 ratio
Still as long as you are happy with it.
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If you put it like this, there could indeed be the concern what would happen if the guys get all too pissed etc. That's a horrible picture to draw.
What I had in mind are those thousands of pix around with happy girls on yachts. You are right in one point though, they are not Thai BG, but real professionals.
Maybe engaging a professional escort service would be more appropiate ?
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