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13-06-2007, 00:22
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That is a lot of money for a TG. Is there no possibility, that you as her partner can get some kind of "guaranter declaration"? In other words, that you are fully responsible for her costs of living etc.
To enter Holland the girl should proof she has a budget of € 34 per day of stay and also she must have a travel insurance which covers also medical expenses for a minimum of € 30,000 and be valid for her entire stay.
In Holland, you can get such declarations at your local municipality after you submit proof of your income etc. If you have this declaration, then your girl does not have to bring these € 34 per day.
But believe me, it gets more and more difficult to enter Holland. Also on a vacation visa!
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Hi Nanook,
You just now defeated the complete discussion we have here :-)
You make it depending on the sponsor again. The questionable point Mr. Lucky brought up is that a girl from Thailand can get a tourist visa to the US without problems by just fullfilling requirements on her side.
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13-06-2007, 00:32
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if all else fails invest in a small suitcase and try your luck getting her thru!
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13-06-2007, 00:36
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While 'relationship' may not be a main criteria I think it would be a contributing factor. You say getting a tourist visa was pretty easy for you , could the fact that you had been married for a year (proof of relationship) been taken into account ????
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In our case it was definitely a contributing factor. In fact, my wife's first tourist visa was issued with a type-written addendum: "Accompanied by American Citizen Husband".
You raise a good point here. While a forum is a good place to get a general idea of visa issues and hear a few stories, no applicant will have exactly the same experience (even if they're dealing with the same embassy).
The OP really needs to start dealing directly with the US embassy in Bangkok, or hire a reputable lawyer to help her out.
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13-06-2007, 00:40
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In fact, my wife's first tourist visa was issued with a type-written addendum: "Accompanied by American Citizen Husband".
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Right, no more needs to be said. I think you really should take a bit more care what to advise in an open forum to other people.
For a moment I thought we could cut the Thai/Farang marriages in the US by half, but now I understand 55555
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13-06-2007, 01:00
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Right, no more needs to be said. I think you really should take a bit more care what to advise in an open forum to other people.
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The only advice I have given here is that he should hire a lawyer if he can't be there in person to help with the paperwork.
Everything else I have written was simply the story of own experience, and I've said as much.
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13-06-2007, 01:00
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BD,
Bring her to Mexico, get her to sit out in the sun for a while, make sure that she forgets all of the english that she has learned in LOS, teach her how to swim (the Rio Grande) and then she will be welcomed with open arms in the US.
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13-06-2007, 01:08
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Hi Nanook,
You just now defeated the complete discussion we have here :-)
You make it depending on the sponsor again. The questionable point Mr. Lucky brought up is that a girl from Thailand can get a tourist visa to the US without problems by just fullfilling requirements on her side.
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Oops..... sorry, that was not my intention at all!!!
I thought the fact that a TG should have quite some money to get the visa, was a bottleneck. That is why I made my post.
I apologize Mr. Lucky!
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13-06-2007, 01:12
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BD,
Bring her to Mexico, get her to sit out in the sun for a while, make sure that she forgets all of the english that she has learned in LOS, teach her how to swim (the Rio Grande) and then she will be welcomed with open arms in the US.
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13-06-2007, 01:13
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The only advice I have given here is that he should hire a lawyer if he can't be there in person to help with the paperwork.
Everything else I have written was simply the story of own experience, and I've said as much.
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Nope, you have questioned very heavily i.e. Cyber, where does he get's his info from etc. on comments he made which we all know are very true.
It's not easy to get even a tourist visa for a TG, not to the UK and not to the US. You also say it's not a problem should a visa get turned down the first time. It has no impact at all ? Of cause it does, everything which shows a negative aspect on an application could have an "potential" impact.
You made it sound as you knew it all in detail, where in the last response to Faulty you say you actually don't and you just compare it all to your own experience " being married" applying for a tourist visa. That's a piece of cake.
Man, being married changes the whole game. I really don't want to be a pain in the butt against you, but I take it a bit personal having been through that rollercaster last year. It's at simplest a tiny nightmare.
The facts should be right and correct in that matter.
You don't want ppl to believe they just can apply for a tourist visa to the US after meeting a girl on holiday and all is honkey dory.
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13-06-2007, 01:19
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Nope, you have questioned very heavily i.e. Cyber, where does he get's his info from etc. on comments he made which we all know are very true.
It's not easy to get even a tourist visa for a TG, not to the UK and not to the US. You also say it's not a problem should a visa get turned down the first time. It has no impact at all ? Of cause it does, everything which shows a negative aspect on an application could have an "potential" impact.
You made it sound as you knew it all in detail, where in the last response to Faulty you say you actually don't and you just compare it all to your own experience "being married" applying for a tourist visa. That's a piece of cake.
Man, being married changes the whole game. I really don't want to be a pain in the butt against you, but I take it a bit personal having been through that rollercaster last year. It's at simplest a tiny nightmare.
The facts should be right and correct in that matter.
You don't want ppl to believe they just can apply for a tourist visa to the US after meeting a girl on holiday and all is honkey dory.
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i have read all Mr Lucky's posts and i just took them as him offering his experience
and if someone is taking advice from people here as "word" then that is their problem
i wouldnt take people's advice on here in such a serious matter
i would get people's thoughts but then do my own due dilligence
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13-06-2007, 01:23
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i have read all Mr Lucky's posts and i just took them as him offering his experience
and if someone is taking advice from people here as "word" then that is their problem
i wouldnt take people's advice on here in such a serious matter
i would get people's thoughts but then do my own due dilligence
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Okay, I cool down. I appologize Mr. Lucky !
I just saw 2 pieces of advise which I could not get around.
- A TG getting it all done without a sponsor
- No impact of a turned down visa.
Doesn't make sense to me.
But, okay, I go out for a beer now :-) Just some bad flashbacks, gone already.
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13-06-2007, 01:26
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Sometimes there is more truth in a joke than joke!
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Pretty sad isn't it. In LA they just need to know how to climb (over) or dig (under).
Have met some great gals over in SE Asia but try not to fall in love as I know how difficult it will be to get them over here.
One of these days I might go over there for a long time and maybe then I will take the plunge. Had one lady from the PI who wanted to do it but got so pushy about it that I finally just told her to forget about it.
Good luck.
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13-06-2007, 01:39
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Okay, I cool down. I appologize Mr. Lucky !
I just saw 2 pieces of advise which I could not get around.
- A TG getting it all done without a sponsor
- No impact of a turned down visa.
Doesn't make sense to me.
But, okay, I go out for a beer now :-) Just some bad flashbacks, gone already.
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no worries
i think people need to take advice on visa issures with a grain of salt
and i ma suffering some flashbacks come August 5555
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13-06-2007, 02:23
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You raise a good point here. While a forum is a good place to get a general idea of visa issues and hear a few stories, no applicant will have exactly the same experience (even if they're dealing with the same embassy).
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I had absolutely no idea about U.S visa rules and regulations , was just trying to point out that long term relationship/marriage could possibly have a 'positive' influence on the Embassy staff.
As you say , everyone is treated differently and if they don't want to give a visa they will always find some reason.
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13-06-2007, 02:23
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proposed to my thai wife in bankok feb 2006,applied for fiance visa(which is the quickest and most guaranteed way of getting her here)in march .She was granted her visa in oct ,arrived here shortly after.She just recieved her greencard for permenent residence last month.They wanted all cell phone bills,my bank shit,homeowner crap,...If you fill out the paperwork yourself be careful that you make no mistakes.Contact your congressman in your district,they have people working in their office that just work on immigration process.They will follow the case the whole way thru.This help me 100%.My wife just took her real estate license course,getting ready to take drivers licence test.I am totally f--cked now .She is getting to americanized.I should have kept her in the wooden box i made for her when she arrived.She was great just coming out to see the sun ,eat ,and clean my pipes
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13-06-2007, 02:28
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proposed to my thai wife in bankok feb 2006,applied for fiance visa(which is the quickest and most guaranteed way of getting her here)in march .She was granted her visa in oct ,arrived here shortly after.She just recieved her greencard for permenent residence last month.They wanted all cell phone bills,my bank shit,homeowner crap,...If you fill out the paperwork yourself be careful that you make no mistakes.Contact your congressman in your district,they have people working in their office that just work on immigration process.They will follow the case the whole way thru.This help me 100%.My wife just took her real estate license course,getting ready to take drivers licence test.I am totally f--cked now .She is getting to americanized.I should have kept her in the wooden box i made for her when she arrived.She was great just coming out to see the sun ,eat ,and clean my pipes
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but the issue is that he wants her to visit w/o any legal relationship issues. No fiancee or marriage visa, just come over for a visit.
And good luck to you Bassass. And congrats to your wife on her career.
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13-06-2007, 02:36
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The only advice I have given here is that he should hire a lawyer if he can't be there in person to help with the paperwork.
Everything else I have written was simply the story of own experience, and I've said as much.
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I never took anything as legal advice, only as your first hand experience.
I have contacted a service and an immigration attorney and they both said they can't help with a visitor visa, she's on her own there. They help with fiancee visas etc. I'm not interested in a fiancee visa right now, and one of them told me that because of a newish law here in the USA you can only apply for 2 fiancee visas and that's it, so I don't want to waste one unless I'm sure. I can't get through to the American Embassy in Bangkok. You need a pin number and I can't even figure out how to do that yet. I'll have another look, but it seems easier to wait until my next trip and just go there. I just need to figure out what paperwork I will need. I got a pretty good idea by reading BM personal experiences. I've figured out there are no experts. Everyone tells me something different, even the services. It's a learning experience.
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I just need to figure out what paperwork I will need. I got a pretty good idea by reading BM personal experiences. I've figured out there are no experts. Everyone tells me something different, even the services. It's a learning experience.[/quote]
BD,
This is very true.
That is one thing that makes it so hard to get TG back to the States with us. Even the Visa services have conflicting information. It is my belief that every case is different and no one rule applies. I suggest putting more weight on the information that comes from the Embassy itself. Then again, I used a visa service.
The services are not expensive, but I could have saved the money for other things. 
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13-06-2007, 09:58
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How hard is it for a TG to get into Canada? If she could get in there, then maybe not so hard to sneak across the border. Once a foreigner is inside this country, they very rarely have problems here, and are not bothered by police. Only if they get involved with the immigration service, will they get thrown out, and there are not very many immigration officers. They are certainly not out looking for people who are not already on their books.
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The US embassy in BKK sounds like a good place to start. Get the forms and find out the specific regulations peculiar to Thailand.
With the US dollar very weak right now lots more people can afford to visit from countries such as Thailand.
It should not be too unusual for a Thai girl to have a 1 week vacation in the USA
The embassy officials I've dealt with seem to be mostly concerned with having enough $$ to last the trip as well as having a good reason to return.
Anything that would give an applicant a reason to remain in the states in the embassy staffs eyes would be detrimental and I'd say they might be pretty strict on those issues.
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