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Old 21-06-2007, 08:52
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You guy's are scaring the hell out of me!

I've never liked flying...and now, I may never get on another airplane!

How do you get to LOS, via boats???




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Old 21-06-2007, 08:56
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Not going to comment on viper's last post, but I will give a little story that I witnessed first hand.
A couple of years ago I was dragged, kicking and screaming to an airshow at our local airforce base. One of the reasons was a mate worked up there servicing ejection seats for military jets and we just wanted to check that he actually did some work!!!!
Any way, after a few hours of wandering around looking at all these strange planes ( like a B2 bomber), they got the flying part underway. All these boring little planes doing boring little flybys until somesort of Airbus thingy from Cathay Pacific comes screaming into the circuit and starts cutting sick!!!!
Totally stole the show from all the military jets and everything else at the show!!!!!
When they say that these planes rarely ever fly to their design limits, I can now believe them. This thing was doing Barrel rolls, Vertical climbs, Stall outs and things I don't have words for, the whole place had come to a standstill to watch this thing, military personnel and all.
Don't know who paid for that demo, but it gave me a lot more confidence in modern commercial aircraft!!!!!
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Old 21-06-2007, 13:17
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You guy's are scaring the hell out of me!

I've never liked flying...and now, I may never get on another airplane!

How do you get to LOS, via boats???




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Ask MrDK he's got all the stats on aeroplanes and their equipment,ask him to tell you about the one about the dead pilot Fcukin scared the sh!t out of me but i think im all good now im just gona drop about 5 sleeping tablets before boarding the plane and a couple of straight johnny walkers when inside and i think ill be in la la land!!!
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Old 23-06-2007, 23:01
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I also make more than 100 flights per year- five different flights in a day 2 weeks ago- and obviously things happen from time to time.

The most dangerous was a fire in the cabin. The scariest was explosive decompression. That was in 2002, I would say now I have just about recovered from the fear of flying that caused. I took Xanax, it worked.

Because of the fear I learned a lot about aeroplanes, I also tried to get to the root of my fear.

After much soul searching I found that I actually was not scared of flying at all. The fear was of dying. (in a plane crash). Once I realised this I started to get better. Another thing that really helped was some info I read about evacuating the plane after a crash, it started "if your alive" That put a lot of things in perspective for me. If your dead your well... dead and if your alive you have survived the crash all you have to do is get off before the are burnt alive.

A couple of stats. If an Aeroplane crashes you could expect an impact of around 100Gs, If it is going fast, at the front of the plane. A lot less at the back, but still about 15 Gs or more. The passenger seats can rip out the floor at 9Gs. (That was the design spec unchanged from the 1950's)The crew seats can absorb about 70 - 80 Gs. Their seats are facing backwards.

BA also have some backward facing seats in Biz class on some flights.

I don't think flying is safer than driving, not if you look at deaths per mile travelled per person, but I do believe it is safer than driving in Thailand, even if some of Thais A300-600's are older than me.
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Old 24-06-2007, 00:11
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the old head between the knees technique is designed to snap your neck and brake your back at the same time
lol yea nothing would ever make me sit like that in a plane, that position speaks for itself
i always keep awake at least 36 hrs b4 a flight, puts me to sleep b4 take off. i dont bother much once in the air, some minor turbulence (which i would have called major b4 reading this thread) scared me a lot though.
but i am bothered by the 'rule' no cellphones. saw people talking in there cells seconds b4 take off and hostesses asking them please (please )
turn it off..
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Old 24-06-2007, 00:46
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I teach technical English to Airbus trainees and get to do a regular tour of the plant in Hamburg.
If you saw the quality controls laid on the main components and the way they stand up to destructive testing you'd feel a lot safer next time you fly.
Human error is much more often responsible for accidents than technical failures.
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Old 24-06-2007, 00:51
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[quote=RobRoy;346405]I teach technical English to Airbus trainees and get to do a regular tour of the plant in Hamburg.
If you saw the quality controls laid on the main components and the way they stand up to destructive testing you'd feel a lot safer next time you fly.
Human error is much more often responsible for accidents than technical failures.[/QUOTE]

Yeak OK...

But aren't the big airplanes controlled (flown), by computers anyway???


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Old 24-06-2007, 01:01
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I teach technical English to Airbus trainees and get to do a regular tour of the plant in Hamburg.
If you saw the quality controls laid on the main components and the way they stand up to destructive testing you'd feel a lot safer next time you fly.
Human error is much more often responsible for accidents than technical failures.[/QUOTE]

Yeak OK...

But aren't the big airplanes controlled (flown), by computers anyway???


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Not sure about that, Pablo, I'm a computer dunce.
I believe they can be landed by computer control and for sure the route can be computer programmed and mostly auto - piloted but computers still need somebody with his wits about him to give them the right input.
I do know that total onboard computer failures are relatively rare.
I'd be surprised if there's no BM with more to offer on your question though.
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Old 24-06-2007, 20:29
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I'd be surprised if there's no BM with more to offer on your question though.

You mean a pilot or retired pilot???
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Old 24-06-2007, 21:52
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Y:[/QUOTE:[/quote]eak OK...
But aren't the big airplanes controlled (flown), by computers anyway???
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Yes... the computer are very safe........... but now mine issssssssssssss..x xxswrr.
Sorry.. better take your bike to LOS. säs, c kdkkfe
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Old 24-06-2007, 22:08
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But aren't the big airplanes controlled (flown), by computers anyway???
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Yes... the computer are very safe........... but now mine issssssssssssss..x xxswrr.
Sorry.. better take your bike to LOS. säs, c kdkkfe [/quote]

Nah sometimes the pilots gotta take over and save everyone.

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Old 24-06-2007, 23:11
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Yes... the computer are very safe........... but now mine issssssssssssss..x xxswrr.
Sorry.. better take your bike to LOS. säs, c kdkkfe

Nah sometimes the pilots gotta take over and save everyone.

Boeing 747 Facing Extreme Cross Wind[/quote]

Nice one SW.
I'll wager there were some twitching sphincters after that little interlude.
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Old 24-06-2007, 23:14
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Yes... the computer are very safe........... but now mine issssssssssssss..x xxswrr.
Sorry.. better take your bike to LOS. säs, c kdkkfe

Nah sometimes the pilots gotta take over and save everyone.

Boeing 747 Facing Extreme Cross Wind[/quote]





Wow is that a scary landing….Rudder turned the wrong way….looked to me the pilots were sitting on horseshoes. Should have been aborted!!!
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Such a nice thread,
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Old 25-06-2007, 15:17
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ESPECIALLY WHEN ONE WILL BE FLYING IN 2 WEEKS TIME.......55555555............IJ
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Old 25-06-2007, 15:53
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helicopters & butterflies better subject
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Old 25-06-2007, 18:50
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Not everyone will arrive in a jumbo jet, some of you will get on a small airbus and commute from Bangkok, Sinapore, or KL. I wonder if they are any safer?

Airbus A319 Hard Landing - extremely dangerous
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Old 25-06-2007, 19:09
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Not everyone will arrive in a jumbo jet, some of you will get on a small airbus and commute from Bangkok, Sinapore, or KL. I wonder if they are any safer?

Airbus A319 Hard Landing - extremely dangerous

I have once seen a small film about an Airbus (?) test (?) which had such a hard landing that the complete tailsection broke off.
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Old 25-06-2007, 19:31
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Not everyone will arrive in a jumbo jet, some of you will get on a small airbus and commute from Bangkok, Sinapore, or KL. I wonder if they are any safer?

Airbus A319 Hard Landing - extremely dangerous



Unbelievable….that landing had an almost animated look to it with the nose jumping up and down. It was like the flaps were deployed incorrectly and the plane just wanted to take off again and the pilot was forcing it back down. Hope someone was sent back to school on that one!
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Old 25-06-2007, 19:33
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First time I flew alone I was 6. One of those propeller planes where you could not even stand up-right. (Incidentally, the legal age of flying unattended was 10 at the time. In one of those always-quoted-in-family-gathering moments --- after being carefully tutored by my mum --- when asked by the stewardess how old I was I said: Yesterday I was 6, but today I am 10 She still let me on though...)

As luck would have it, we hit (probably) the worst turbulence I’ve ever experienced. One guy hit the ceiling and landed on the floor next to me unconscious and bleeding from his template. I still remember the incident vividly, and it took a long time before I forgave my mum.
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We hit 1 air pocket on the way back home to Sweden last time when we flew with Finnair. I was almost up in the roof, was a bit scared then but it was over pretty quick. There was turbulence every now and then ofcourse but this was a really big drop. Im really amazed how these birds can stay up in the air after such a hard hit.

The pilote appologized for the unexpected turbulence right after.
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I have once seen a small film about an Airbus (?) test (?) which had such a hard landing that the complete tailsection broke off.

Was it this one Captain? Not an Airbus, but an MD80.

YouTube - One Bad landing 2
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