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25-08-2007, 04:21
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TT, stay out of this. Johnny69 is just another troll just like Dame, who got banned, and so-cal, who got supsended. Sorry, but we will not put up with trolls, especially when they are posting junk. Sorry but I, and others, will not put up with them. We've had a bunch of trolls lately, all were caught, Dame even tried to come back 2 more times with different BM names but was caught. We don't need a bunch of sh*t stirrers in the forum. IJ is smart enough to let others do the work for him and he already does enough on another forum.
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#73
25-08-2007, 07:01
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I am not defending OR supporting anyone here, but I find your quote a bit suspicious. You mention "I, or others" will not put up with.... etc. etc. etc., but it seems like you really mean "you", and you say it as if someone invaded your own personal space to be honest. What group of BM's are you writing about when you say "we"? And what gives you the right or honor to speak for them in your mind? I think all BM's should be able to post what they want. And if the mods don't like it, they can discipline accordingly.
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#74
25-08-2007, 07:43
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i am just assuming but when Seafox says "we" i would guess he means all of us BM's that basically built this board for the last 4 years with our input also, new members like yourslef, ATM, and others that have added to the content and made it a better board Nicke had a great idea but without the Bm's that have been here from basically the start, this board wouldnt be where it is now and i think "we" should have some say
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#75
25-08-2007, 08:06
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And that is possibly (probably) my point.. Is there really a difference based on when you joined or when you started contributing? I would still like to see "the list" of BM's from everyone's perspective that aggregate "we", but I doubt one could ever be produced....
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#76
25-08-2007, 08:17
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no, i understand what you are saying and think you may be getting at that there is an "old boys network" here, which is completely true but i think we(there is that word again 555) earned that a bit also if a new member comes on here, i think they get a fair shake if they are here for a legitmate reason and it is obvious the guys that are here just to windup you may disagree but i think new members that have contributed have become "we" fairly quickly and right or wrong, you know that it also makes a difference on this forum if you have actually met BM's face-to-face
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#77
25-08-2007, 15:06
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Sometimes you better don't! 5555 Right for the trolls, but sometimes you have to give people a better chance! That's why I mentioned JP, can't call him a troll, just a bit naive, got his load anyway!
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#78
25-08-2007, 17:20
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To a certain extent I agree with this. There are a lot of new members that have come on here that seem genuine people. People that are ready to contribute, ask inteligent questions and join interesting debates... These members have no problems but people like Dame, So-Cal and paradise who come on here just to annoy people is something else. Not everyone will agree on the same thing, and this is what makes an interesting forum. I disagree with views of other board members on here, but there are ways to show why you disagree. I disagree because... and give a well rounded answer without flaming usually goes down well and can even open interesting debates. But the part I disagree with is that meeting some boardmembers in person. There are some on here I haven't met that I would really like to meet, but they have my upmost respect because of the way they post. The ones that I have met are all great people, but I also know that there a lot i haven't met that I'd like to (yourself and jaybee really stand out as 2 I'd like to share a drink with not to mention a few others) but becauseI haven't met you guys, it doesn't mean I don't respect you any less than say TanMan or Geir who I met in person. I think peoples posting styles say a lot, and if you post good and don't try to antagonise anyone you will earn the respect of people.
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26-08-2007, 06:56
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Maybe this topic is getting old, I do not know. However, I do remember that when I first started posting about a year ago there were two BM's that were taking a lot of flak on this Board for no reason in my mind, except that they were different than the "we" (whatever that means) in the minds of the "we" at the time. And, by the way... so was I taking the flak right or wrong by some.
And those two that I mention were MrDK and Nanook (sorry to single you guys out but I am just trying to make a point here). Yet, now they are seen by the Board as two of the most affable and likeable people here. And, rightly so in my opinion based on their posts, seemed intent, and the quality of their comments... OK DK is a little on the kinky side...  I sense that there is definitely an upcommance period and that there are BM's that try to shut down any newcomers for whatever reason until they can prove themselves. As an example of what I mean or am trying to convey, I have read most of SoCal's posts including his shirtless wonder thread, and to be honest, if he really is 23 and likes to be shirtless in the Thailand public, but will not listen to the Board's advice against, then let him be. I disagree with his behaviour too, but how are you going to convey this to a 23-year old guy. To be honest, when I was 23, I would have done the same and no one could have talked me out of it. In that way... I can relate. The Board demographic averages are IMO 35-45, male predominately. Why not get the input of some people out of this range and take it in stride? Learn something or at least remember something.... anyway, that is what I do.. And, Cybie... I think it really is important to meet people before making an opinion or perception about them.
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#80
26-08-2007, 07:17
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I don't think this is the reason at all - if look through the comments from those in question you will see the problem, trying to provoke people, usually by making things up or saying things to provoke other board members etc Also I've been on this board a year now (I think) and I've had no problems with the senior BM's when I first started or even now
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#81
26-08-2007, 07:45
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Steve, is this the "we", you've been looking for, and harping on about? 5555 Quote:
TanMan, a web forum is something like a neighborhood, that you consider moving into. When you plan a move (residential), you check out the prospective neighborhood, for compatibility, location, etc. And, you'd likely inquire and get a "feel", for your new neighbors...before moving in. The same applies, in a web forum. Most, would do a little browsing, to get a feel for the board...and it's members (general) outlooks. (your demographic point) So, let's say, you're 23 yrs old. And, you think that anyone over 30yrs, is out of touch, and irrelevant. (SoCal) But, you want to move into that nighborhood anyway, despite the fact that your new neighbors may be "different" from you. What do you do, as a (new arrival)...roll in with "guns blazing", admonishing your new neighbors...saying they're too old and fat, to get on with the "loud punk music", you set off in the front yard, on the first night in your new home????? Probably wouldn't be warmly welcomed there, either! Same thing goes on this board. Before "shooting from the hip", a new member should read and digest, that which is the "norm" (lack of better term), on this forum. Then either join in (as in...when in Rome), or find another board (home), where their views, may be better accepted. SoCal, and a couple of others, are/were so conflicting and antagonistic in most of their posts....they should find another home! Just my opinion. Last edited by pablo : 26-08-2007 at 14:39.
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26-08-2007, 09:00
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Nice reply Pablo.
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26-08-2007, 10:44
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Very good comparison Pablo. Does this mean you have no home and live here, looks like it :-)
But I think you hit a couple of nails, one other person which springs to mind was that 20+ hardcore gamer (HLPCsomething) who had been on hardcore gaming boards for too many hours. He had some trouble getting into this community. I wonder why. On the other side, it's quite good that TanMan is drawing the line a bit further. Many times I quite enjoy reading all those debates and it gives a sense of fresh air. However, so far I can relate to the Mod's decisions, there comes a time to end this when someone is "just" stirring around on purpose (double agenda) and the "fresh air" becomes foul.
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26-08-2007, 11:13
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J69 has been here before. If someone has been tossed and now they're back....that's a different story than a newbie with an attitude. SoCal is like the village idiot, you put up with him. If a new BM comes in with guns drawn, the sheriff should take him out. How's that for an American point of view.
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26-08-2007, 13:33
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How are the schools?  Have you checked the test scores? 
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26-08-2007, 14:21
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Yeah...I checked it out JB... You're gonna' have to stay in "so-cal"! 5555 Last edited by pablo : 26-08-2007 at 14:35.
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26-08-2007, 15:12
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OMG!! I'm not moving to so-cal!  Anything but that. If I must, guess I'll remain in nor-cal. Until I can return to LOS, that is!! 
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26-08-2007, 19:44
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You can have him Pabs..... We dont need him down here. Its crazy enough without Jeffrey.
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26-08-2007, 22:15
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Point 1. I agree with you (well about Mr DK anyway) I remember he took some flak, but I agree he is a valuable member of the board. (I don't remember Nanook tho) The difference is tho Mr. DK does contribut an awful lot and does raise some valid issues and makes some interesting posts. So-Cal asked a valid popint, but really when he raised the issue of shirtless in Thailand, he couldn't change his western views and probably would have been better of in Magaluf or something than Thailand. other than that generally he doesnt post a lot of intrest. point 2. Maybe I was wrong a little, but there are some people you can judge by there posting styles, not all tho. For instance Pint of Stella said to me that he expected me to be a shirt and tie person because of my posting styles... Maybe because I am a little conservative in my views... However there are some posters on here that you can tell would be interesting to meet because of what they post. You have already made a judgement on them.. Although maybe you shouldn't do.
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26-08-2007, 22:36
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Agree, what a weirdo at times, must be his split personality to be Swedish and living in the US 5555 Quote:
That slipped my attention as well ? Completely missed that. I find Nanooks humor one of the best I can relate to. Agree, it could have something to do with me having a Dutch mum and a life long, painful slapping just because I'm German from "their" side I got over it, no worry, Beckenbauer is better than Cruyff and I changed my bicycle for a car...I start to waffle, better move on to the next point before I go Off-Topic :-)Quote:
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