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Old 15-08-2007, 05:35
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Forum Tactics:

I have noticed various tactics employed by forum users, and thought u may be interested in my observations and analysis, so here are some.

THOUGHT POLICE:

Many try to come to terms with policing others thoughts, as it is impossible it creates only frustration for them, and usually results in anger or drawn out arguments with the thought police trying to have the last say in order to seem more correct. As the thought police find it an impossible task to forcibly change another’s opinion, they then move on to one of the next options.

GAGGING AND CENSURE:

If they realise they cannot change another thoughts, the thought police usually switch to another tactic, that is gagging or censure. If you cannot stop someone thinking a certain way the next best thing is to stop said person from expressing it. The use of censorship thru moderators is usually the easiest way. Unpopular or controversial opinions are what makes a forum, what would the government be without an opposition to keep them honest?

CHARACTER DENIGRATION:

This tactic is also another option; it can be done either subtly or openly maliciously. The subtle method requires that you build your opinion up as being for informed or factual than the “nay sayer” and to undermine the “nay sayer” own information, experience or expertise to give a qualified opinion. The open tactic tends to be more alone the lines of verbal denigration or character judgements or assassinations. The uses of insulting or hurtful personal comments are freely used in this tactic.

PEER PRESSURE AND GROUP MENTALITY:

Yet another tactic is the application of peer pressure. If a number of people can be organised via PMing, then a co-ordinated campaign using multiple character denigration tactics can pressure the “nay sayer” into conforming to the group mentality or at least being pressured into gagging his/her own opinions and thoughts. The group mentality can also be used to imply that the “nay sayer’s” opinion and thoughts are wrong, buy virtue of weight of dissenting opinions. This may include also the use of votes and polls to garner support for their opinion and even censure to the point of deletion. Those pressuring will also support any other who is seen to disagree with the “nay sayer’ on any topic in order to garner maximum support.

HARRASSMENT AND LOST PUPPY SYNDROME:

Another tactic is to continually harass the “nay sayer” either in the open forum or via PM. The intent is the same, to pressure the “nay sayer” into either changing his/her opinions, encourage self gagging or censure, or even departure from the forum altogether. The tactic usually involves continual comments and insinuation on the open forum following any post the “nay sayer” makes, irregardless of if it pertains to the topic opinion that is in dispute. It can include comments up to and including personal denigration. It is also referred to as the lost puppy syndrome due to the way the comments will seem to follow the “nay sayer” around the forum without any topic based validity.

THE LAST SAY:

Another simple tactic used to emphasis the case against the “nay sayer” thoughts and opinions. It is based on the premise that any unchallenged comment especially if the last post must some how be correct due to a lack of response from the “nay sayer”. A simple and sometimes effective tactic.

THE GUILT TRIP:

This tactics is generally used in the later phases of the battle, after other tactics have failed to either censure, kow-tow or ban the miscreant and his/her opinions. This tactic usually requires a melodramatic speech about how they cannot handle the opinions of the “nay sayer” any longer while at the same time aligning themselves with the other members of the Forum, by saying how much they appreciated the comments and opinions of the others. This is also a variation of the peer pressure tactic that allows the indignation of the group to be focused on the “nay sayer” and turns the guilt tripper into a “victim”. Naturally the truth can be clouded by human nature that normally identifies with the “victim”. The guilt tripper will then usually return under another log on name to observe the effect of his/her tactics. In extreme cases, the guilt tripper may claim aggrieved status to the point of hospitalisation or self harm as a result of a “nay sayer” thoughts and opinions.

CONCLUSION:

This is only a brief insight into many of the tactics used on a Forum but does cover most of the common tactics employed. There are more as well as variations, but by observing some forum exchanges you should be able to identify some of the ones I have outlined.

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Forum Tactics:

I have noticed various tactics employed by forum users, and thought u may be interested in my observations and analysis, so here are some.

THOUGHT POLICE:

Many try to come to terms with policing others thoughts, as it is impossible it creates only frustration for them, and usually results in anger or drawn out arguments with the thought police trying to have the last say in order to seem more correct. As the thought police find it an impossible task to forcibly change another’s opinion, they then move on to one of the next options.

GAGGING AND CENSURE:

If they realise they cannot change another thoughts, the thought police usually switch to another tactic, that is gagging or censure. If you cannot stop someone thinking a certain way the next best thing is to stop said person from expressing it. The use of censorship thru moderators is usually the easiest way. Unpopular or controversial opinions are what makes a forum, what would the government be without an opposition to keep them honest?

CHARACTER DENIGRATION:

This tactic is also another option; it can be done either subtly or openly maliciously. The subtle method requires that you build your opinion up as being for informed or factual than the “nay sayer” and to undermine the “nay sayer” own information, experience or expertise to give a qualified opinion. The open tactic tends to be more alone the lines of verbal denigration or character judgements or assassinations. The uses of insulting or hurtful personal comments are freely used in this tactic.

PEER PRESSURE AND GROUP MENTALITY:

Yet another tactic is the application of peer pressure. If a number of people can be organised via PMing, then a co-ordinated campaign using multiple character denigration tactics can pressure the “nay sayer” into conforming to the group mentality or at least being pressured into gagging his/her own opinions and thoughts. The group mentality can also be used to imply that the “nay sayer’s” opinion and thoughts are wrong, buy virtue of weight of dissenting opinions. This may include also the use of votes and polls to garner support for their opinion and even censure to the point of deletion. Those pressuring will also support any other who is seen to disagree with the “nay sayer’ on any topic in order to garner maximum support.

HARRASSMENT AND LOST PUPPY SYNDROME:

Another tactic is to continually harass the “nay sayer” either in the open forum or via PM. The intent is the same, to pressure the “nay sayer” into either changing his/her opinions, encourage self gagging or censure, or even departure from the forum altogether. The tactic usually involves continual comments and insinuation on the open forum following any post the “nay sayer” makes, irregardless of if it pertains to the topic opinion that is in dispute. It can include comments up to and including personal denigration. It is also referred to as the lost puppy syndrome due to the way the comments will seem to follow the “nay sayer” around the forum without any topic based validity.

THE LAST SAY:

Another simple tactic used to emphasis the case against the “nay sayer” thoughts and opinions. It is based on the premise that any unchallenged comment especially if the last post must some how be correct due to a lack of response from the “nay sayer”. A simple and sometimes effective tactic.

THE GUILT TRIP:

This tactics is generally used in the later phases of the battle, after other tactics have failed to either censure, kow-tow or ban the miscreant and his/her opinions. This tactic usually requires a melodramatic speech about how they cannot handle the opinions of the “nay sayer” any longer while at the same time aligning themselves with the other members of the Forum, by saying how much they appreciated the comments and opinions of the others. This is also a variation of the peer pressure tactic that allows the indignation of the group to be focused on the “nay sayer” and turns the guilt tripper into a “victim”. Naturally the truth can be clouded by human nature that normally identifies with the “victim”. The guilt tripper will then usually return under another log on name to observe the effect of his/her tactics. In extreme cases, the guilt tripper may claim aggrieved status to the point of hospitalisation or self harm as a result of a “nay sayer” thoughts and opinions.

CONCLUSION:

This is only a brief insight into many of the tactics used on a Forum but does cover most of the common tactics employed. There are more as well as variations, but by observing some forum exchanges you should be able to identify some of the ones I have outlined.

J69



Did Dame send this too you, or was it Richie?

and is this auto biographical, as to all of the tactics that have been used on you in different forums that you have been banned from?

A little hint, you are well on your way to leaving here also!
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I have noticed various tactics employed by forum users...
There is nothing here to suggest that these are just "Forum Tactics", they are all used in ordinary day to day life, so why make out that they are used solely by this forum and imply that they are done so in a negative way ? You're new here and I don't think you are doing yourself any favours by posting this. You seem to have changed your attitude quite a bit from when you first joined...
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I thought that was the idea of a forum, to ask others who know and have a chat along the way, perhaps even make a friend? If google is the answer then do we need this forum?

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Will somebody PM me when dame, paradise,johnny 69 or d1ckhead whatever his name is has been banned...........probably later today then.
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Will somebody PM me when dame, paradise,johnny 69 or d1ckhead whatever his name is has been banned...........probably later today then.

If they are all one and the same, I'll have to tip my hat off to the writer.
The style of writing is so diverse that it's hard to believe it comes from the same person.
Though the thought processes seem the same (same MO), only a truly prolific writer can pull it off.
That, or a schizophrenic.

In any case, you're just proving his point with your replies.
Instead, why don't we talk about something more productive (and hijack this thread, yeah?).
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If they are all one and the same, I'll have to tip my hat off to the writer.
The style of writing is so diverse that it's hard to believe it comes from the same person.
Though the thought processes seem the same (same MO), only a truly prolific writer can pull it off.
That, or a schizophrenic.

In any case, you're just proving his point with your replies.
Instead, why don't we talk about something more productive (and hijack this thread, yeah?).

Atleast you all had a read, or alternatively just come here to sledge (See lost puppy syndrome), I don't know who dame is or any of the others. This is my own work no body sent it too me, and is not directed at any forum in particular, just an observation of general forum behaviours. Not that everyone does the things mentioned here in. But take from it what you will or just ignore it. Its freely given, but up to the individual if they draw anything from it.

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Will somebody PM me when dame, paradise,johnny 69 or d1ckhead whatever his name is has been banned...........probably later today then.

No WGB do not think he is any of the others just an annoying new boy who always likes the last say. Posts to provoke but not anything that will get him banned unfortunately.

With this type of troll it is always best, once spotted, to just ignore them and they eventually just go away.
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...With this type of troll it is always best, once spotted, to just ignore them and they eventually just go away.
Or use the "Ignore" function
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Or use the "Ignore" function


Yes like i have already done on some of you too. I am no troll but I will say what I think and not what others want to hear.

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Now you guys can have the last say all you want on this thread.
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Or use the "Ignore" function

Now done, what a great function first time i have used it........
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No WGB do not think he is any of the others just an annoying new boy who always likes the last say. Posts to provoke but not anything that will get him banned unfortunately.

With this type of troll it is always best, once spotted, to just ignore them and they eventually just go away.

Exactly its getting annoying to have someone that always likes to prove he knows it better. Is there also a tactic name for that?
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Forum Tactics:

I have noticed various tactics employed by forum users, and thought u may be interested in my observations and analysis, so here are some.

THOUGHT POLICE:

Many try to come to terms with policing others thoughts, as it is impossible it creates only frustration for them, and usually results in anger or drawn out arguments with the thought police trying to have the last say in order to seem more correct. As the thought police find it an impossible task to forcibly change another’s opinion, they then move on to one of the next options.

GAGGING AND CENSURE:

If they realise they cannot change another thoughts, the thought police usually switch to another tactic, that is gagging or censure. If you cannot stop someone thinking a certain way the next best thing is to stop said person from expressing it. The use of censorship thru moderators is usually the easiest way. Unpopular or controversial opinions are what makes a forum, what would the government be without an opposition to keep them honest?

CHARACTER DENIGRATION:

This tactic is also another option; it can be done either subtly or openly maliciously. The subtle method requires that you build your opinion up as being for informed or factual than the “nay sayer” and to undermine the “nay sayer” own information, experience or expertise to give a qualified opinion. The open tactic tends to be more alone the lines of verbal denigration or character judgements or assassinations. The uses of insulting or hurtful personal comments are freely used in this tactic.

PEER PRESSURE AND GROUP MENTALITY:

Yet another tactic is the application of peer pressure. If a number of people can be organised via PMing, then a co-ordinated campaign using multiple character denigration tactics can pressure the “nay sayer” into conforming to the group mentality or at least being pressured into gagging his/her own opinions and thoughts. The group mentality can also be used to imply that the “nay sayer’s” opinion and thoughts are wrong, buy virtue of weight of dissenting opinions. This may include also the use of votes and polls to garner support for their opinion and even censure to the point of deletion. Those pressuring will also support any other who is seen to disagree with the “nay sayer’ on any topic in order to garner maximum support.

HARRASSMENT AND LOST PUPPY SYNDROME:

Another tactic is to continually harass the “nay sayer” either in the open forum or via PM. The intent is the same, to pressure the “nay sayer” into either changing his/her opinions, encourage self gagging or censure, or even departure from the forum altogether. The tactic usually involves continual comments and insinuation on the open forum following any post the “nay sayer” makes, irregardless of if it pertains to the topic opinion that is in dispute. It can include comments up to and including personal denigration. It is also referred to as the lost puppy syndrome due to the way the comments will seem to follow the “nay sayer” around the forum without any topic based validity.

THE LAST SAY:

Another simple tactic used to emphasis the case against the “nay sayer” thoughts and opinions. It is based on the premise that any unchallenged comment especially if the last post must some how be correct due to a lack of response from the “nay sayer”. A simple and sometimes effective tactic.

THE GUILT TRIP:

This tactics is generally used in the later phases of the battle, after other tactics have failed to either censure, kow-tow or ban the miscreant and his/her opinions. This tactic usually requires a melodramatic speech about how they cannot handle the opinions of the “nay sayer” any longer while at the same time aligning themselves with the other members of the Forum, by saying how much they appreciated the comments and opinions of the others. This is also a variation of the peer pressure tactic that allows the indignation of the group to be focused on the “nay sayer” and turns the guilt tripper into a “victim”. Naturally the truth can be clouded by human nature that normally identifies with the “victim”. The guilt tripper will then usually return under another log on name to observe the effect of his/her tactics. In extreme cases, the guilt tripper may claim aggrieved status to the point of hospitalisation or self harm as a result of a “nay sayer” thoughts and opinions.

CONCLUSION:

This is only a brief insight into many of the tactics used on a Forum but does cover most of the common tactics employed. There are more as well as variations, but by observing some forum exchanges you should be able to identify some of the ones I have outlined.

J69


This is the best articul I have wred on this forum for ages

I think I should print it out on sh!t paper and wipe my ar$e with it.

Which syndrome does that belong to???
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