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Old 05-12-2005, 08:27
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i am attracted to lb's to a point, but dont go with them, and the reason is when i talk to them, all i see is a guy talking back to me, cant help it. the voices kill me.
that being said, ive become friendly with jenny in C&D. the 1st night that me and a few bm;s went to that bar, she was trying to go with me, but i politely declined. now she knows i wont go with her, but every once in awhile i stop by and buy her a drink and have a laugh. i find her very sexy when im at love bar when shes dancing, but have almost no attraction once im talking to her. hope that makes sense.
for example, i think the lb's in pentire's pics are sexy, but im sure once i got close to them, i wouldnt be attracted. again, like always, too each's own.

and ya know what, if a bm i talked to on this forum showed up to MTB with a gay thai boy, id feel the same way, honestly, too each's own
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Here is Areeya in the shower and then those two Pattaya Sex Bombs Ex & (her room mate) Twang.

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Unfortunately, I got here too late!! Missed the pic of Areeya in the shower. SteveM beat me to it!!
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i am attracted to lb's to a point, but dont go with them, and the reason is when i talk to them, all i see is a guy talking back to me, cant help it. the voices kill me.
that being said, ive become friendly with jenny in C&D. the 1st night that me and a few bm;s went to that bar, she was trying to go with me, but i politely declined. now she knows i wont go with her, but every once in awhile i stop by and buy her a drink and have a laugh. i find her very sexy when im at love bar when shes dancing, but have almost no attraction once im talking to her. hope that makes sense.
for example, i think the lb's in pentire's pics are sexy, but im sure once i got close to them, i wouldnt be attracted. again, like always, too each's own.

and ya know what, if a bm i talked to on this forum showed up to MTB with a gay thai boy, id feel the same way, honestly, too each's own

I kind of feel that way, too. There are levels of attraction. First level is visual, where you go, "Hm-m-m! Looks good! Sexy as hell." Then there is the next level where you get up close, and hear the voice, or see adams apple or big feet, or some such thing that breaks the illusion. But there is one more level, a 3rd level, where you haven't been yet, Paul, and maybe never will go there, but it is when they actually break through to you on some level of feelings, where there is an emotional connection. That is what happened to me a couple times! Very scary, yet very intense and compelling. Close Encounters of the Third Kind!!! I wonder if Spielberg is going to make a movie about it?
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I feel attracted to Jenny too. But i know that when i wake up sober i will regret it because i also spoke to her in the Mc Donalds during daytime and then you notice she is/was a guy.
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i am attracted to lb's to a point, but dont go with them, and the reason is when i talk to them, all i see is a guy talking back to me, cant help it. the voices kill me.
that being said, ive become friendly with jenny in C&D. the 1st night that me and a few bm;s went to that bar, she was trying to go with me, but i politely declined. now she knows i wont go with her, but every once in awhile i stop by and buy her a drink and have a laugh. i find her very sexy when im at love bar when shes dancing, but have almost no attraction once im talking to her. hope that makes sense.
for example, i think the lb's in pentire's pics are sexy, but im sure once i got close to them, i wouldnt be attracted. again, like always, too each's own.

and ya know what, if a bm i talked to on this forum showed up to MTB with a gay thai boy, id feel the same way, honestly, too each's own

Isn't there a deaf and dumb ladyboy in Patong somewhere? If so, that's the one for you Marc
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If your just looking at physical differences then probably just the admas apple, extra rib, period, lubrication, erogenous zones, menopause.

But in reality, female and male brains are differently, the hormones and hormone producing glands are different, the feelings are different. How can any LB say they feel more like a woman than a man, honestly, how would they know? Its not just the physical things that differentiate us, tits, willies whatever. Its the difference in emotions, feelings, strengths, weaknesses, emotions, logic etc....

Personally, stuffing some plastic tits in a guy, cutting off his willy and having him grow his hair long, does not a woman make.


And how would you know that they don't know? Feeling is objective. Sexual dysphoria, sexual identity disorder, woman trapped inside a man's body....what ever name you give them, what's driving them to change their gender is their feeling towards themselves. As for my ex-LB I believe that it's truly a woman's mind inside that body. There are lots of LB out there that are no more than men with plastic tits and a fake pussy. But there are also descent LB which is much more than that. Don't stereotype.
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If your just looking at physical differences then probably just the admas apple, extra rib, period, lubrication, erogenous zones, menopause.

But in reality, female and male brains are differently, the hormones and hormone producing glands are different, the feelings are different. How can any LB say they feel more like a woman than a man, honestly, how would they know? Its not just the physical things that differentiate us, tits, willies whatever. Its the difference in emotions, feelings, strengths, weaknesses, emotions, logic etc....

Personally, stuffing some plastic tits in a guy, cutting off his willy and having him grow his hair long, does not a woman make.


And for your information men don't have an extra rib, so is LB.
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And how would you know that they don't know? Feeling is objective. Sexual dysphoria, sexual identity disorder, woman trapped inside a man's body....what ever name you give them, what's driving them to change their gender is their feeling towards themselves. As for my ex-LB I believe that it's truly a woman's mind inside that body. There are lots of LB out there that are no more than men with plastic tits and a fake pussy. But there are also descent LB which is much more than that. Don't stereotype.
Your the one that dumped her/him and kept saying how you almost beat her/him up, If you really believed she was a woman inside and she looked like one outside - what was the problem?

The reason I dont think that LB's are women trapped in mens bodies is because there are just so many of them, couple that with the fact that almost all of them are involved in the tourist/sex scene and it seems pretty obvious that its a lifestyle choice.

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The reason I dont think that LB's are women trapped in mens bodies is because there are just so many of them, couple that with the fact that almost all of them are involved in the tourist/sex scene and it seems pretty obvious that its a lifestyle choice.

Not sure of this. Maybe they are just taking advantage of the situation. If someone offered me 20 times the average wage of my country to be wined. dined and shagged by someone I felt attracted to, I would not hesitate to say yes
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Your the one that dumped her/him and kept saying how you almost beat her/him up, If you really believed she was a woman inside and she looked like one outside - what was the problem?

The reason I dont think that LB's are women trapped in mens bodies is because there are just so many of them, couple that with the fact that almost all of them are involved in the tourist/sex scene and it seems pretty obvious that its a lifestyle choice.


I almost beat her up?? Please specify where in the forum did I ever mention that. And for your question if you are curious please trace along the previous threads.
There are lots of successful LB maybe you never heard of them. In Malaysia there is a LB who is a famous nutritionist and have established a very successful nutritional therapy business. In Korea there is a famous girl band which all four members are LB also. I happen to have a cousin who is a LB and also a successful career woman with her own business. I must say that your conclusion that all LB are involved in sex industry is just your very own ignorant opinion. We are all human beings and there are good and bad among us.
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Sorry got you confused, theres so many ladyboy threads at the moment.
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Sorry got you confused, theres so many ladyboy threads at the moment.


Nevertheless I must say that stereotype and discrimination against any kind do no good to anyone or anything but just giving people hard time.
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hang-on, regardless on my thoughts about LB's, you broke up with a human being that you loved, simply because they were a ladyboy - hardly one to be lecturing about discrimination are you?
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hang-on, regardless on my thoughts about LB's, you broke up with a human being that you loved, simply because they were a ladyboy - hardly one to be lecturing about discrimination are you?

I think lying about one's gender to somebody that you are in relationship with is a big issue. If I have known that she's a LB before I wouldn't be in a relationship with her anyway. Everyone has his own standard of what he accept or not accept. It is my own problem that I cannot accept a LB as my gf. It's just same as I cannot accept another girl that have some quality that I don't feel suit me. But I still treat them with respect and I don't conclude that all LB are liars. That doesn't constitute as a discrimination.

You on the other hand jumps into a conclusion that all LB are sex workers. Your disrespectful attitude towards people based on stereotype and not fact is a discrimination.
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Actually I said that ALMOST all LBs are involved in the TOURIST/sex scene.

If I go to Tescos, I see maybe 1 in 5,000 people are a LB, in Patong its more like 1 in 20.
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Actually I said that ALMOST all LBs are involved in the TOURIST/sex scene.

If I go to Tescos, I see maybe 1 in 5,000 people are a LB, in Patong its more like 1 in 20.


And just how did you know that ALMOST all LBs are TOURIST/sex workers? You have the statistics from the government? Or is it just from the agogo in Patong that you see? I wonder when you saw most of these LBs are bar fined by European you might as well say all Europeans are fag!
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Sorry, your not making any sense now.
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I feel attracted to Jenny too. But i know that when i wake up sober i will regret it because i also spoke to her in the Mc Donalds during daytime and then you notice she is/was a guy.

actaully, i think your talking about gaigai, the one right next to love bar, thats not the one. jenny is the tall one in c&d with the long black hair.
but its funny you say that, ive always talked to her with the loud music on, saw her in safari and heard her talk without the booming noie, got kinda scared
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I almost beat her up?? Please specify where in the forum did I ever mention that. And for your question if you are curious please trace along the previous threads.
There are lots of successful LB maybe you never heard of them. In Malaysia there is a LB who is a famous nutritionist and have established a very successful nutritional therapy business. In Korea there is a famous girl band which all four members are LB also. I happen to have a cousin who is a LB and also a successful career woman with her own business. I must say that your conclusion that all LB are involved in sex industry is just your very own ignorant opinion. We are all human beings and there are good and bad among us.

Chic Jing, I'm confused too, wasn't this you?


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You seem like a really nice guy Chic Ging.Thanx for sharing your experiance.I think the person you describe is a woman trapped in a mans body and did what she needed to do to fix it,cant be much fun,what she had to go through.I also understand for you the trust was shattered,mmm... such is life..

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This is probably the most ridiculous thing that happen in my life. I used to think that LB are pretty easy to spot, even not at first glance but after a close look. Honestly if she's not such a cutie girl I would have kicked her ass harsh. Those LB who steal, rob, talk rude, or only wants your money deserve no mercy.

Aren't you saying you "would have kickd her ass harsh"?

I'm not trying to argue, but I got the same impression, I must not understand what you meant.
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It is very easy to jump to the conclusions that there are so many ladyboys because a lot of guys see the opportunity to don wig, make-up, etc., and make an "easy" buck in the tourist/sex trade. I think this is probably true in a few cases, but generally untrue.

Let me tell you of a case I observed. Once I went and spent a week with a FL at her house in a town 50 kilometers from BKK. She had a son, who was about 9yrs old(give or take, hard to remember). He was a very sweet gentle boy. One night after dinner, one of her friends that was there, said to the boy, who was a cheerleader at the school, "Show us how you do the cheers!" He proceeded to do a totally feminine "Britney Spears" kind of dance, singing the cheers as he went along, shaking his fanny, smiling, and making flirtatious looks with his eyes and gestures with his hands. It was just like watching a girl cheerleader.

His mother told me that when she had asked him what he wanted to be when he grew up, "Policeman, doctor, lawyer?" then he replied to her, "I want to be a ladyboy." He lived in an area where there were no ladybars, and no tourist trade. When I walked down the streets in that town, a lot of people stopped and stared as if they had never seen a farang. I never saw a single farang in that town the whole week I was there. I don't think the kid had a clue that his mother was working as a FL in BKK. She had only been in the biz a few months, and had worked as a receptionist for an engineering firm all her life before that. She was 34 yrs. old. I was the first farang she had ever brought to her home.

So I don't think that this boy was influenced by the tourist trade or making a living that way. He was simply a very feminine boy who liked the things that girls like and didn't like the things that boys like. So he saw himself as a boy who felt more like he was a girl than a boy, i.e., a future ladyboy.

His mother was not at all pleased about it. She said she wished he was a normal boy. But she accepted the reality of who he was. Oh, well, looks like he's going to be a LB, she said, with a sigh of resignation. Then she added, "at least, he won't get involved in all the fighting and rough life that these gang boys get into. Too bad for him that he is not prettier, though. I don't think he has a good face for a LB!" Actually, I thought he was kind of cute, except he had really big ears that stuck straight out.
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I know one in Pattaya ... atleast she try to say nothing , she must have a real dark voice 555
Me and a friend tryed to get her talking for an hour when we got stock in her bar cos of alot of rain .. will 1 hour be enough "marc26" ??

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Do you think Mr.Spielberg will ever be that poor he have to make dirty LB porn 555 ?

He made movies about aliens, didn't he? Aliens, LBs - almost same same!
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