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Old 14-09-2007, 11:38
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I have noticed a few threads lately (most of them thankfully removed by moderators) where questions are asked about BG's and the tone of the questions are somewhat offensive.

Whatever personal preferences people may have, I would suggest that this board is not a forum for airing fetishes or requesting information on those of BG's.

These girls are not pieces of meat to be used and abused, they are, in the main, beautiful ladies looking to find a partner.

Cultural differences may mean you see them, initially, in a different light and arrive in Phuket with preconcieved ideas but, if you have any soul, that changes rapidly.

Remember also that many BM's have Thai wives or girlfriends and you are insulting them too when you write disparaging things about the BG's.

It is right and proper to ask questions to prepare yourself for your visit and arrive with sufficient information but, as an adult, it is up to you to discover the lady you want to spend time with.

What is not correct is to deride or otherwise speak negatively about the people who live there or assume they are somehow less important than you.

many of these ladies come from the villages and are supporting their whole family the best way they can.

Their way of life is neither seedy nor less worthy than yours nor is it less respectable.

In short, please, when asking questions, treat the BG's with the considerable amount of respect they deserve, to do otherwise is to show your complete lack of understanding and humanity.

Just my 2p.
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Old 14-09-2007, 11:46
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Like the sentiment Dennis......don't know where some of our newer BMs get their ideas about LOS from but lately we do have a lot of 1st up guys asking where do I get @nal sex etc.....reflects badly on the BM asking....not the BG's
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Old 14-09-2007, 12:04
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I doubt the OP's views on working girls in other countries wouldn't be so honourable....

Everyone has different views on different topics and an open forum is exactly where people get to air their opinions... You may not like what people say, people might not like what you say.... The fact is its your choice to read what is posted on the forum and if you dont like what you see its not mandatory to take part... If everyone aired their dislikes to what people post the forum would end up as a free for all slagging match...

Agreed, some of the new BM's ask stupid questions or are downright ignorant but they are only degrading themselves not others....
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Old 14-09-2007, 13:00
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Although by and large I am somewhat in agreement with Dennis' sentiment(not 100% though, as some BGs are just *****s), all in all, I am more inclined to side with MrWoody, since I subscribe to the view that it is an open forum, so assholes are allowed to express opinions and ask questions, and censorship is best kept at a minimum. Nevertheless, due to Google's policy on sexual content, and the extent to which their advertising supports the site, some censorship seems allowable. Just my $0.02 worth!
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Old 14-09-2007, 13:03
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I doubt the OP's views on working girls in other countries wouldn't be so honourable....

Everyone has different views on different topics and an open forum is exactly where people get to air their opinions... You may not like what people say, people might not like what you say.... The fact is its your choice to read what is posted on the forum and if you dont like what you see its not mandatory to take part... If everyone aired their dislikes to what people post the forum would end up as a free for all slagging match...

Agreed, some of the new BM's ask stupid questions or are downright ignorant but they are only degrading themselves not others....

It seems to me to be a symptom of the world we now live in!! Countries or sectors of the world seem to be getting more isolationist and unfortunately, this is more and more Religion based.
Now.... you may say the the West is not ruled by religion, but you must admit that most of the laws we consider to be just and right were originally based on religion.
The Middle East and other Muslim counties are a bit more blatant about it, and then we have the "minority" religions, such as Bhuddism.
From the threads I have seen started, the biggest problem is that people will not accept that people can have a different lifestyle and set of morals that do not fall into the BIG 2. Anyone that doesn't fit into those 2 are subhuman.
It is not the first time in history that this has reared it's ugly head, and the past shows that it usually ends in a devastating WAR!!!
A bit of understanding, empathy, respect and most importantly, acceptance would go a long way in the world just now!!!
Sorry to generalise but that's my Point Of View!!!
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Old 14-09-2007, 13:10
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I have noticed a few threads lately (most of them thankfully removed by moderators) where questions are asked about BG's and the tone of the questions are somewhat offensive.




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Old 14-09-2007, 13:19
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Nice sentiment there Dennis which a broadly agree with - the 'a-holes' who harp on about 'freebies' (read cheating/conning the girl for what is in any case precious little in farang terms ... ~$30/25 euro/15 quid) - 'throwing money at the girl' (maybe you can buy her body but you cant buy her heart or mind .. and for karma's sake not good to make her do things that she is not comfortable with).

There have always been the odd smattering of these 'types' but fortunately this board is pretty self regulating and quickly such poster's will find they are unwelcome here and worse less likely to make good friends with fellow BM's when they are here on holiday.

Personal life should stay that way, however I dont think total a total blanket should be put on questions on personal preferences but BM's should be respectful and understanding of the TG's right to be treated well and as a human being and not a commodity.
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Old 14-09-2007, 13:26
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To qualify: I am not suggesting, nor would I condone a blanket ban on personal opinion etc., just merely that a brain into gear before fingers hitting the keyboard may just prevent potentially insulting the girls and others.

IT IS an open forum and well regulated and may it always remain so, its a great way of keeping in touch with the area and people.

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It's sort of a "double edged sword", in my opinion.

How much respect do you think the average BG has for the farang? I mean, after your ST/LT, and they are back with their GF's or thai BF's...do you think they profess their admiration and respect for you, and your free spending spirit?

In most cases, your just a stupid farang to them anyway!

I give the BG's the benefit of doubt, and treat them well enough...as I do for any lady. (courtesy learned at home, growing up) But don't put them on a "pedistal", and say that they only work the bars, because they're poor, etc.
They've made a concious desicion to sell themselves, and there are many more thai ladies, who choose otherwise...and deserve REAL respect.

I certainly don't "respect" their choice of employment!

The morons who post degrading and crude points and questions, are just the scum of the earth...making themselves heard now, thanks to the internet!
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Old 14-09-2007, 18:30
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Eloquently put pablo.
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good post first off . i have to say that when speaking to people at work the first thing that comes out of there mouth is your just going over there to f*** the s**** and unless u do make posts like this alot of people coming on here will think that and ask questions to match , if people dont know nothing about the place apart from rumours from others they will think that i guess ! but its not a good thing at all
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Old 14-09-2007, 19:05
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I'm sure many of us BM have gotten burned by bg, me included. Still that doesnt change my opinion of them. The way I like to be treated is the way I treat them. I was in LOS last week just for a quick R&R. The ladies that I went with were all PYT who got some serious TLC from me. To me, at the end of the day life's beautiful.
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Old 14-09-2007, 19:51
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Nice sentiment there Dennis which a broadly agree with - the 'a-holes' who harp on about 'freebies' (read cheating/conning the girl for what is in any case precious little in farang terms ... ~$30/25 euro/15 quid) - 'throwing money at the girl' (maybe you can buy her body but you cant buy her heart or mind .. and for karma's sake not good to make her do things that she is not comfortable with).

There have always been the odd smattering of these 'types' but fortunately this board is pretty self regulating and quickly such poster's will find they are unwelcome here and worse less likely to make good friends with fellow BM's when they are here on holiday.

Personal life should stay that way, however I dont think total a total blanket should be put on questions on personal preferences but BM's should be respectful and understanding of the TG's right to be treated well and as a human being and not a commodity.

I think your post makes very good sense. Especially the part where you say the board is self regulating such posts.

When I first started reading here, I was a bit surprised how a BG get's analyzed into thousands of bits and pieces, and how much effort and energy people put into becoming real "Certified BG Professionals".

Over time, when you read yet another "How many times a day does a BG go to the toilet ?" you just skip through it and make some funny off-topic comments. This board is quite experienced and great in turning even silly threads into fun.
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I had a great time on my trip falling in love with girls who i S/T L/T and girls who i just laughed with having drinking in the bars. I treated them with respect and do not see them as pieces of meat or inferior for the way they choose to earn a living.
As Pablo says crudeness and and degrading the girls is not big and it's not clever.
However the general posting of requests for information on what is or not acceptable, the trip reports (which shouldn't read like a porno script) are what the forum is for and shouldn't be discouraged or we will always have situations like EP putting the wind up people when there is only calmness (looking for hidden agendas when none exist)

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"How many times a day does a BG go to the toilet ?"

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I appreciate the view but at the end of the day you cant tell people what they can ask and what they cant, sure there are right arsehole asking very stupid and offensive questions on here but what can u do???

We live in a world where everyone is different ,and we for sure cant agree with everyone ....

I treat Thai women with plenty of respect and in turn i get it back to a degree, but thai girls will also blatantly talk about you in front of thier freinds ive caught a few girls out bad mothing me and talking about other men, they quickly relaized and started speaking lao

Bgs are most defintly not all innocent and many are a very dangerous breed who love to play on mens emotions , the most itelligent and educated man could easily find himself manipulated quite easily , not me however

Anyway i forget my point, but it must be somewhere in this rambling lol!!!!!!!!!!!!
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I appreciate the view but at the end of the day you cant tell people what they can ask and what they cant, sure there are right arsehole asking very stupid and offensive questions on here but what can u do???

We live in a world where everyone is different ,and we for sure cant agree with everyone ....

I treat Thai women with plenty of respect and in turn i get it back to a degree, but thai girls will also blatantly talk about you in front of thier freinds ive caught a few girls out bad mothing me and talking about other men, they quickly relaized and started speaking lao

Bgs are most defintly not all innocent and many are a very dangerous breed who love to play on mens emotions , the most itelligent and educated man could easily find himself manipulated quite easily , not me however

Anyway i forget my point, but it must be somewhere in this rambling lol!!!!!!!!!!!!

I think I agree with you, if only I can think why
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pablo put it in probably the best way i have seen.
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These girls are not pieces of meat to be used and abused, they are, in the main, beautiful ladies looking to find a partner.

Cultural differences may mean you see them, initially, in a different light and arrive in Phuket with preconcieved ideas but, if you have any soul, that changes rapidly.


Good post. I think most miss the point that many of these girls are right off the farm and just as overwhelmed as vacationers. They are just looking for a better life like that other girl from the village that now lives in Denmark and got a real house for the folks.
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Depends primarily on how many LDs she gets.

Could be, could also depend strongly on how many times the mobile rings :-)
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It's sort of a "double edged sword", in my opinion.

How much respect do you think the average BG has for the farang? I mean, after your ST/LT, and they are back with their GF's or thai BF's...do you think they profess their admiration and respect for you, and your free spending spirit?

In most cases, your just a stupid farang to them anyway!

I give the BG's the benefit of doubt, and treat them well enough...as I do for any lady. (courtesy learned at home, growing up) But don't put them on a "pedistal", and say that they only work the bars, because they're poor, etc.
They've made a concious desicion to sell themselves, and there are many more thai ladies, who choose otherwise...and deserve REAL respect.

I certainly don't "respect" their choice of employment!

The morons who post degrading and crude points and questions, are just the scum of the earth...making themselves heard now, thanks to the internet!

An excellent reply, with just a small rejoiner: I do not advocate putting them on a pedestal (nor would I any woman), neither do I think that women who choose another route through life deserve more or less respect and as for their choice of employment, I cannot judge them as I, like most farangs, have not walked in their shoes.

On the whole though I think your aproach is sensible and logical, thanks for taking the time to reply.
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