Phuket

H3X · #71 16-09-2007, 21:18

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Originally Posted by payoff71

Yes. We were lucky but the flight as it turns out originated from the old BKK airport and we flew from the new one. So not as close as we 1st thought.

ok glad ur safe and sound, however billpay said you had tickets for flight OG269 ... but u were early.... and also at the wrong airport it seems ?

Peace out.

H3X

jimholio · #72 16-09-2007, 21:25

Scary...

The numbers is going up and up, on Swedish news they say a minimum of 88 casualties so far.

To me when listening to the Swedish guy who was explaining what was going on he apparantly heard that the pilote did alot of corrections before the landing, adding speed, decreasing speed and before the crash he said that the pilote raised the landing gear and added speed again as if trying to take off again.

My deepest thought with everyone involved. And i hope that no BM's were on this flight.

ATMwalking · #73 16-09-2007, 21:26

This is a really horrible tragedy. My condolences to anyone who lost a loved one.

I hope there is a thorough investigation.

Here are some more images.
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dbaron · #74 16-09-2007, 21:36

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Originally Posted by cybernator_uk

Is this just restricted to LCC's tho? I remmeber the worst landing I have ever had was with Thai Airways from Phuket to Bangkok a few months ago.

I used to use LCC's a lot, now however i stick only to the major airlines... Lufthansa etc. However you think how many times a day 1-2-go fly to Phuket, and this is the first accident I can recall. This could have happened on any airline realistically.

Anyway isn't 1-2-go owned and serviced by Thai? I could be wrong, but I am sure they owned 1 LCC.

From news reports on the net it is oriental thai airways. Don't know if the same same.
But also from news sites it seems the plane approached too fast and the weather conditions very bad. Maybe no ones fault just a accident that any airline could have had.
My only concern is that other planes would have been landing so why did this one crash. Pilot error perhaps.
The biggest concern I feel however is the casualties and the people who unfortunately did not survive they are more important than the airline itself as they will fly another day, unlike the poor passengers affected by this tragedy.
As you say LCCs are as good as any airline but conditions and mistakes happen to the best of them. We just hope it doesn't happen to us when flying.
All the best to the injured, I hope they all get through this disaster.

Best wishes

DB

payoff71 · #75 16-09-2007, 21:39

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Originally Posted by jimholio

Scary...

To me when listening to the Swedish guy who was explaining what was going on he apparantly heard that the pilote did alot of corrections before the landing, adding speed, decreasing speed and before the crash he said that the pilote raised the landing gear and added speed again as if trying to take off again.

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That is exactly what our pilot did on approach. I heard the pilot of the next flight tried to speed up and take off again to take another run at landing.

alliegator · #76 16-09-2007, 21:39

Hey guys, just finding out about this in the US, hope all of you and your friends are safe and accounted for! It was nice to see some of you and have drinks this summer. Take care.
-Jenna and Lisa, the American computer girls

billpay · #77 16-09-2007, 21:57

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Originally Posted by H3X

ok glad ur safe and sound, however billpay said you had tickets for flight OG269 ... but u were early.... and also at the wrong airport it seems ?

Peace out.

H3X

my Receptionist told me they had that #, still, too close for comfort and happy they are here! I'm supposed to take that same flightin about ten days.....I wonder?

Coolhand · #78 16-09-2007, 22:01

Two Australians are among 43 people who have survived after a passenger jet crash landed on the Thai resort island of Phuket.

87 people have been confirmed killed, with the plane carrying 130 people.

Hospital officials say some of the survivors include two Australians, eight British, seven Thai, one Irish and one Iranian national.

People who are concerned that friends or relatives may have been on the aircraft can call the Department of Foreign Affairs hotline on 1300 555 135.

The Boeing MD-80 operated by the budget airline One-Two-Go crashed in bad weather, and broke in two on the main airport runway.

The pilot had reportedly sought clearance to land in heavy rain and strong winds, and crashed landed after making a 'go around'.

Nong Khaonual, a Thai who survived the crash with his wife, told a local TV station from his hospital bed that he believed the plane had descended too quickly.

'The airplane was landing in heavy rain. It landed too fast. I have never seen anything like this. It descended very fast.'

'My wife was half conscious and I dragged her out of the emergency exit. There was a man behind us and he was on fire'.
[Sky Neews Australia]

wakeboycam · #79 16-09-2007, 22:03

This is really bad news. Two friends of mine just flew in to Phuket with one to go last week. Lets just hope nobody sufferd to much in the fire.

Tommychrk · #80 16-09-2007, 22:09

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Originally Posted by billpay

my Receptionist told me they had that #, still, too close for comfort and happy they are here! I'm supposed to take that same flightin about ten days.....I wonder?

You should be as safe as possible can be Bill, what do you think the statistical possibility of thishappening again on the same route?? pretty close to zero....

Anyway, my deepest thought to those involved and to their friends and families. It does hit us hard cause this route we have taken many times and will land again at Phuket airport. I will at least have some unpleasent thoughts going through my mind next time I land at Phuket airport.

bennyboy · #81 16-09-2007, 22:10

god bless everybody involved, and their familys....

landofsmiles · #82 16-09-2007, 22:15

Worst Thai aircrash since the Airbus at Surat Thani in 1998 killed 101 :-(

Pinot · #83 16-09-2007, 22:18

The board posts are amazing. Hoping for the best.

K2 · #84 16-09-2007, 22:34

My sympathies to the families of those who lost their loved ones today.

It was appalling weather and I was out on a (Hash) run at the time - one of our guys was at the airport when the crash happened and there was a nasty squall at the time - so possible wind sheer was the cause.

Simbo · #85 16-09-2007, 22:44

Thailand's Deputy Minister of Transport Sansern Wongcha-um on Sunday evening said that the airport in the southern province is expected to resume operations on Monday morning, at 6 am.

About 1,000 passengers could not travel after four flights were cancelled: three Bangkok-bound and the fourth for Hong Kong

Dupree00 · #86 16-09-2007, 23:10

Oh no! This is awful. My thoughts go out to all involved.

Bannerman · #87 16-09-2007, 23:10

BBC NEWS | World | Asia-Pacific | Scores killed in Thai plane crash

To all who have died may the rest in peace. To all the injured a fast and full recovery.

Ger.

Werwolf · #88 16-09-2007, 23:16

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Originally Posted by likeitalot835

couldn't have put it better!!

I have seen in the tv about 88 died and 42 insured-
Terrible.....

perky · #89 16-09-2007, 23:23

Awful... when I last flew in (with Air Asia) the landing was definitely one of the worst I've been on, horrible weather, people were even screaming in the back. I wasn't too shaken since I've been on a few nailbiters before but I did have a moment of horror when we were just coming down to ground and a gust of wind threw the plane sideways, I really thought we were going to touch down with the wing first, but the pilot managed to right the plane. Then he didn't put it down for what seemed like ages, I was wondering if he was going to do a flyover and try again, or else we were going to run out of runway... eventually the wheels touched down and it was ok. There was applause, which is unusual on a regular scheduled flight. I think we were all a bit shaky at the knees coming out.

Which is why my thoughts go out to all those on board this flight

Mr Lucky · #90 16-09-2007, 23:26

Horrible news! Deepest condolences to those who lost loved ones and I hope for a quick recovery for the survivors.

Agree its too early for the blame game. I hope the Thai authorities can see the wisdom of a speedy, accurate and transparent investigation.

HEADING2LOS · #91 16-09-2007, 23:34

Really feel sorry for all those people in crash. Don't want to play the blame game here. But just my thinking that the pilot wasn't experienced enough to landing in really bad weather. Really not in a good mood after hearing this news as poeple were going there to spend some good times of their lives. But all i can say is that what ever has to happen , it happens. God Bless All.

landofsmiles · #92 16-09-2007, 23:35

Investigation should be easy enough as both pilots survived. More than likely the cause will have been the poor weather conditions at the time, monsooning with very high winds.

DREW · #93 16-09-2007, 23:35

88 souls lost, very sad.

This is a passenger list for the plane from the Bangkok Post in case anyone is worried about relatives and friends.

Bangkok Post Breaking News

Drew

T.J. · #94 16-09-2007, 23:39

Just saw this horrible news. I hope all who were injured recover and heal fast. What a tragic thing to happen to those people. Hopefully data recorders will be recovered and the causes in addition to the crappy weather determined. Just terrible.
Take care all and good luck to all those in the hospital.
R/T.J.

Halley G · #95 16-09-2007, 23:40

r.i.p. to all those killed

quick recovery to those injured

Harsin · #96 17-09-2007, 01:11

very very sad news, has not been a good day for planes and helicopters

nkped · #97 17-09-2007, 01:23

Recognizing the hazards of speculation at this early point, the obvious question is whether or not the pilot should have diverted to another airport in the south or even back to Bangkok due to the weather, particularly if he already went around once. That could be an issue of corporate policy and culture.

irishfrank · #98 17-09-2007, 01:31

just got in from work,terrible news,I hope all BMS, friends and relatives are ok!
really shocking!

dawsey · #99 17-09-2007, 01:32

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Originally Posted by nkped

Recognizing the hazards of speculation at this early point, the obvious question is whether or not the pilot should have diverted to another airport in the south or even back to Bangkok due to the weather, particularly if he already went around once. That could be an issue of corporate policy and culture.

It could also depend on fuel load. I doubt the plane was fuelled enough for a return to BKK. Whatever, a sad ending to that flight.

Spector · #**100** 17-09-2007, 01:41

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Originally Posted by nkped

Recognizing the hazards of speculation at this early point, the obvious question is whether or not the pilot should have diverted to another airport in the south or even back to Bangkok due to the weather, particularly if he already went around once. That could be an issue of corporate policy and culture.

Think you hit the nail on the head...No question that weather/wind shear/rain was the cause, but I'm sure after the investigation is completed, the corporate policy of the airline will come under scrutiny. Are the pilots pressured to remain on schedule? Obviously just conjecture, but I'm sure a contributing factor in the decision to attempt a landing in less then ideal conditions.

Trotter · #**101** 17-09-2007, 03:32

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Originally Posted by Spector

Think you hit the nail on the head...No question that weather/wind shear/rain was the cause, but I'm sure after the investigation is completed, the corporate policy of the airline will come under scrutiny. Are the pilots pressured to remain on schedule? Obviously just conjecture, but I'm sure a contributing factor in the decision to attempt a landing in less then ideal conditions.

A terrible tragedy and trite to say could have been any of us but could have been. I add my thoughts to those of other BM's. Pilots are well trained, even those working for LCCs. Too early though to say what happened or speculate but hope that any lessons that need learning are identified quickly and appropriate steps taken.

Swedish Chef · #**102** 17-09-2007, 03:45

My thoughts go out to all of you who had someone you knew that didnt make it or got hurt. I wish i could carry some of the sorrow for you right now to make it easier for you.

erik1 · #**103** 17-09-2007, 04:44

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Originally Posted by Spector

Think you hit the nail on the head...No question that weather/wind shear/rain was the cause, but I'm sure after the investigation is completed, the corporate policy of the airline will come under scrutiny. Are the pilots pressured to remain on schedule? Obviously just conjecture, but I'm sure a contributing factor in the decision to attempt a landing in less then ideal conditions.

unfortunately many airlines fuel planes with to little reserve fuel to actually have many options. It is a sad day with to many people loosing their life. May they rest in peace

planter · #**104** 17-09-2007, 04:46

so sorry to hear this news, so sad. my thoughts go to all those involved

Scooby Doo · #**105** 17-09-2007, 04:54

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Originally Posted by nkped

Recognizing the hazards of speculation at this early point, the obvious question is whether or not the pilot should have diverted to another airport in the south or even back to Bangkok due to the weather, particularly if he already went around once. That could be an issue of corporate policy and culture.

I agree spot on.

This is terrible news. You have to ask youself if the weather was that bad why was the plane attempting to land. There are wind sheer limits for every aircraft which I'm sure the pilot was well aware of, I'm also sure he was well aware of the capabilities of his aircraft. It's just speculation at this stage but questions need to be asked as to whether or not the pilot made the correct decision in attempting to land. Or maybe the decision should have been taken out of his hands and TOLD to land else where. Who knows... it's a damn shame.