This is a discussion on Airport Accident within the General forums, part of the PHUKET category; Really feel sorry for all those people in crash. Don't want to play the blame game here. But just my ...
Really feel sorry for all those people in crash. Don't want to play the blame game here. But just my thinking that the pilot wasn't experienced enough to landing in really bad weather. Really not in a good mood after hearing this news as poeple were going there to spend some good times of their lives. But all i can say is that what ever has to happen , it happens. God Bless All.
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Investigation should be easy enough as both pilots survived. More than likely the cause will have been the poor weather conditions at the time, monsooning with very high winds.
88 souls lost, very sad.
This is a passenger list for the plane from the Bangkok Post in case anyone is worried about relatives and friends.
Bangkok Post Breaking News
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Just saw this horrible news. I hope all who were injured recover and heal fast. What a tragic thing to happen to those people. Hopefully data recorders will be recovered and the causes in addition to the crappy weather determined. Just terrible.
Take care all and good luck to all those in the hospital.
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r.i.p. to all those killed
quick recovery to those injured
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very very sad news, has not been a good day for planes and helicopters
Recognizing the hazards of speculation at this early point, the obvious question is whether or not the pilot should have diverted to another airport in the south or even back to Bangkok due to the weather, particularly if he already went around once. That could be an issue of corporate policy and culture.
just got in from work,terrible news,I hope all BMS, friends and relatives are ok!
really shocking!
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It could also depend on fuel load. I doubt the plane was fuelled enough for a return to BKK. Whatever, a sad ending to that flight.Originally Posted by nkped
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Think you hit the nail on the head...No question that weather/wind shear/rain was the cause, but I'm sure after the investigation is completed, the corporate policy of the airline will come under scrutiny. Are the pilots pressured to remain on schedule? Obviously just conjecture, but I'm sure a contributing factor in the decision to attempt a landing in less then ideal conditions.
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A terrible tragedy and trite to say could have been any of us but could have been. I add my thoughts to those of other BM's. Pilots are well trained, even those working for LCCs. Too early though to say what happened or speculate but hope that any lessons that need learning are identified quickly and appropriate steps taken.
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My thoughts go out to all of you who had someone you knew that didnt make it or got hurt. I wish i could carry some of the sorrow for you right now to make it easier for you.
unfortunately many airlines fuel planes with to little reserve fuel to actually have many options. It is a sad day with to many people loosing their life. May they rest in peace
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so sorry to hear this news, so sad. my thoughts go to all those involved
I agree spot on.
This is terrible news. You have to ask youself if the weather was that bad why was the plane attempting to land. There are wind sheer limits for every aircraft which I'm sure the pilot was well aware of, I'm also sure he was well aware of the capabilities of his aircraft. It's just speculation at this stage but questions need to be asked as to whether or not the pilot made the correct decision in attempting to land. Or maybe the decision should have been taken out of his hands and TOLD to land else where. Who knows... it's a damn shame.
Very sad news sincere and deepest condolences.
My sympathies to anyone even remotely involved with the crash yesterday.
I am not willing to speculate on what happened, I'm no aviation expert, pilot or crash investigator, I am sure the details will all come out in the end.
My own personal observations from yesterday:
I was at home in Kamala, when it went dark in the early afternoon, that was rain. No TV sat signal etc. Then my front slammed shut and the balcony doors started rattling, that was the wind. It lasted for about 15 minutes. Torrential, heavy rain and strong gusts of wind. I am guessing this was about the time this pilot was flying around and thinking of trying to put his aircraft on the ground. That was some bad weather!
From television here I saw several fire appliances, ambulances, cranes etc next to the plane. The reactions of the airport emergency teams appeared to be spot on but very little they could do I guess. Small mercy I know, but at least the injured got to a hospital quickly.
Television also reports that two or three aircraft landed before this one and had a really hard time of it with the wind squalls off the sea. hard landings etc due to some pretty bad weather here over the last couple of days.
I went out last night for food, shopping etc and chatted with several Thais and it seemed to have hit them hard as well. All watching TV's in supermarkets or listening to updates on the radio. I'm sure we will hear more today. The weather today, again, is heavy rain, dark storm clouds but the wind has dropped off a little.
Again, just my observations and again, sympathies to anyone out there who may have known someone on the flight.
Last edited by Denver; 17-09-2007 at 07:30.
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This terrible crash seems to be similar in a number of ways to the one in Brazil recently. Planes should not be made to land in atrocious conditions like those.
May Budda bless them all.
Condolences to all the victims families. Hope all the injured recover quickly.
Last edited by IONIO; 17-09-2007 at 13:42.
Does anyone know if the Pilot and Copilot survived??God bless all them souls...
This really is a terrible tragedy and my thoughts go out to all the victims friends and relatives.
I agree with the previous posts that we should not blame budget airlines, I'm not sure what the statistics are but don't believe the percentages of accidents would be much higher than the main carriers.
Where these airlines do let people down is in customer care. My daughter and her friend were due to fly back to Singapore last night (both British girls in their early 20's). As far as JetStar were concerned they offered zero help and told them that if they wanted to get back on Monday they would have to go off and find a computer and buy a new ticket online for 3,000 Baht. On top of the tragedy this really is a shocking attitude, I understand the airport was in chaos last night. I've not heard from them since about 10pm last night and have no idea if they found suitable accommodation or if they have been able to buy another ticket.
Newspaper articles this morning indicate that the pilots survived.
Read on Phuket Gazette, there was a Phuket Airport disaster drill last week, i guess they must have been prepared.
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i was at work at time when it happened. initial info was that phuket airport
would be close due to disabled aircraft on runway. i had wanted to call to find
out but decided against, thinking it may just have been burst tyre/s or maybe
hydraulic failure. however, when was told that closure would be until midnight,
then did the notion that something worst could have taken place.
it was then someone saw the news flash on tv channels. the feeling was not
good. memories of SQ6 in taipeh came straight back. causes would only be
known later but it would be definitely a mixture of many factors.
sympathies and thoughts to families of deceased. i feel for you.
The latest arrticle in BKK Post, states that both pilots are listed among the fatalities. I would think so...as the front end takes the worst of impact.
[QUOTE]Midnight turned to opening at 6:00 AM, to now (8:50 AM).....all morning flights cancelled, and noone knows when the airport will open.
Very predictable.
Airline accidents are horrific events, and are usually followed by a couple of days, of chaos...and misinformation. Truly sad, and my heart goes out, to those involved.
Last edited by pablo; 17-09-2007 at 08:54.
deepest sympathies to all concerned, i have just heard on the radio an interview from the mother of robert borland who works and lives in phuket ,she spoke to him at 9.00pm last night , all he could tell her that some one drag him out of the plane with his clothes on fire, as far as she knows he has a broken arm and burns to his legs.
GOD BLESS ALL.
I was very suprised there were going to open again so fast. The crash site needs to be investigated. You can't just treat it like scrap and move on. Close it for a week if they must. Just start running buses to the Krabi airport.
The need to get a better sense of the cause quickly. I've read several reports of the plane falling unto the runway. Sounded like a microburst to me. Whatever, just don't rush it and brush it away.
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Very sad to hear the news of the aircraft crash, I heard it on the news frst thig this morning 6am Perth time (monday) When I checked my computer there was an msn message from my thai "daughter" from last night it said, "Dad, airplin fall from sky at Phuket, I watching on tv now, I very sad, many people die including Farang, do nort book with them" I spoke to her this morning and she was genuinely upset yet had no real connection with anyone on the flight.
My sympathies go out to all the families and friends of the victims of this tragedy.
I will not get into the blame game (as with the McCanns abduction in Spain) There seems to be too much speculation on what iff's. Let's wait until the investigation report comes out.
Once again my sympathies are with all of those people affected by this tradgedy
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not good news at all.
thoughts to friends and families of all casualties
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