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21-09-2007, 19:19
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Capdagde who give a fcuk what he swam through, the geezer got out. How about some compassion for the guy whose mate died.
Myself, StiofanDerry, all I have to say is you have my condolences and thoughts for your mate who did not return and his family. Last edited by greenwood; 21-09-2007 at 19:22. 
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21-09-2007, 19:47
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21-09-2007, 20:13
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i dont see how Cap asked a bad question listen it sucks that so many people died, but just like any event in the world, people want to know details this is an information forum, so if people are easily offended over people discussing an even that is pretty crucial to them, and most guys on here fly inside Thailand, then maybe they shouldnt read this thread i dont think anyone has asked or talked about anything offensive in this thread Last edited by marc26; 21-09-2007 at 20:15.
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21-09-2007, 20:17
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im sorry for your friend's losses i think you own a bar in Pattaya? correct im sure if your friend needs anything in Patong, there is always local BM's willing to help, best thing about this board
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21-09-2007, 20:56
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22-09-2007, 05:06
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The headlines in Sweden now is about Dash-8-Q400 airplanes, looks like 3 airplanes of that kind had problems recently. SAS have stranded all their Dash planes for the time being, as a bolt in the landing wheel seems to get rusty and may cause problems. Dash is still a small part of the fleet but still a safety risk until these bolts has been replaced.
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22-09-2007, 05:17
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I assume and guess that a fleet of newer planes are more safe than 25 old year airplanes, where some parts may not be so strong anymore and meet safety criterias. I dont know the reason for the Phuket accident, but I would still think that a newer fleet may be more safe.
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22-09-2007, 05:26
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yeah i mean i flew on one to go when i came to phuket in august but NOW knowing that the planes are from the soviet cold war era, and who knows were they are from i will pay extra and fly with someone more reliable , nok seems ok , not sure how old there planes are though
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22-09-2007, 05:38
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And SAS has found out that all 27 planes of that type in their fleet has the same problem. Corrosion on a bult. Can only be seen via xray, and its not written in the service manual from the manufacturer...
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22-09-2007, 05:51
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In answer to your question, Sef, his mate was towards the rear of the aircraft. Apparently, when the cabin was damaged in the crash, the rain began pouring into the cabin, the rear section was lower than the front section and the water rolled to the back of the cabin, filling it as if it were a tube. This is the only logical explanation. In a tremendous torrential downpour, if the water has nowhere to drain off, a space as small as a section of the cabin can become filled very quickly with water coming in at damaged areas and rolling to the lower part of the cabin.
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22-09-2007, 15:46
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And I still have a tough time doing so, as rain even torrential doesnt make waist deep swimming water and secondly I thought I had read the tail section dropped off / broke apart ?? Fuel was simply a suggestion but would there be that much ?? Again no disrespect intended just putting the pieces together in my mind..
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22-09-2007, 16:57
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in some of the pictures of th accident you can see that the plane also ran across a large drainage ditch so it maybe collected a lot of water that way?
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Valid points maybe about the age of the planes but read this and note the age of the plane? Date: May 05, 2007 Time: ? Location: Near Dizangue, Cameroon Operator: Kenya Airways Flight #: 507 Route: Abidjan, Ivory Coast - Douala, Cameroon - Nairobi, Kenya AC Type: Boeing B-737-8AL Registration: 5Y-KYA cn / ln: 35071/2079 Aboard: 114 (passengers:105 crew:9) Fatalities: 114 (passengers:105 crew:9) Ground: 0 Summary: The plane crashed in a dense, swampy forested area, 5 km from Douala Airport, moments after taking off in stormy weather. The plane was just six months old.
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22-09-2007, 19:12
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Another 1-2-Go incident
Bangkok Post: Second One-Two-Go plane has crash landing (link changed - see LOS post below)
A small incident - no one was hurt. Last edited by Mr Lucky; 23-09-2007 at 13:09.
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23-09-2007, 12:06
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That link goes to a story about snakes.
This is the story>>> Pilot sent 'mayday' to tower Second One-Two-Go plane has crash landing By Achadtaya Chuenniran and Thai News Agency The chief pilot of the ill-fated One-Two-Go airliner sent a distress signal to the control tower just before it crash-landed last Sunday, said Pornchai Ua-aree, director of Phuket international airport. The pilot used a ''mayday'' signal to ask for help just before the plane veered off the runway and crashed into an earth embankment. Meanwhile, another One-Two-Go flight from Bangkok to Hat Yai yesterday had a minor crash landing, but the pilot managed to control the aircraft. One of the plane's lights and air-conditioning control panels fell on top of a passenger and oxygen masks also dropped down, airport officials said. One passenger suffered bruising. The incident took place less than a week after 89 passengers were killed and 41 injured when One-Two-Go flight OG269 from Bangkok veered off the runway and crashed at Phuket airport. Sqn-Ldr Pornchai, who briefed a delegation from the National Legislative Assembly (NLA) transport committee about last week's crash, said airport controllers had warned the pilot about gusting winds and rain. He said the controllers received information [from the pilot] that as the aircraft was about to touch down, its wheels were out, but they did not touch the ground. He cited the taped conversation between the air traffic controllers and the pilot. ''The chief pilot shouted 'mayday' repeatedly to ask for help until he lost contact with the control tower,'' Sqn-Ldr Pornchai said. The NLA committee, led by Bannawit Kengrien, yesterday travelled to Phuket to compile information about the crash and visit the injured at Bangkok Phuket hospital. On long-term measures to cope with emergencies at the airport, he said the airport needed better quality foam to extinguish fires. The foam used to douse the fire last week was not good enough to put the fire out completely, Sqn-Ldr Pornchai said. He also suggested large, better-equipped hospitals be built near Phuket airport. Currently, the closest hospital is Thalang hospital, a small hospital that cannot serve many emergency patients, he said, adding the large hospitals are situated far away from the airport. He said another 50 CCTV cameras would be installed in and around the airport, in addition to the 50 cameras already in place. The NLA panel also called on the airport to make sure its equipment is well maintained and staff properly trained, he said. Adm Bannawit said improvements must be made to the airport's rescue capability. He said the airport still lacked an efficient rescue team and there were no rescue helicopters available. He said he would pass on complaints about shortcomings in airport rescue work to various agencies. Adm Bannawit expected all airports under the supervision of the Airports of Thailand to finish installing security cameras by the end of the month. As for the data recorders which were sent to the United States, he said, the information on the cause of the crash should be made available in a month. Udom Tantiprasongchai, president of Orient Thai Airlines, operator of the One-Two-Go budget airline, said he had received a report on yesterday's incident which said the pilot had to make a crash landing on the runway to ensure the wheels firmly touched down. He said it was ''a normal situation'' which happened occasionally and did not suggest the plane was of sub-standard quality. He said officials of the Civil Aviation Department investigated the cause of the accident and had found nothing wrong with the plane. He said the department had allowed the plane to get back into service. Bit of a sensationalist title saying this second one had a crash landing when it was probably nothing more than a hard landing.
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23-09-2007, 14:29
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I second the comments re the need for a hospital near to the airport. I own the airport hotel in Phuket and have been too busy to post over the last week, (as you can probably imagine).
The nearest hospital to the airport is at Thalang. But it is a very small hospital with limited facilities and only 2 ambulances - no ICU ambulance. When this crash happened, I watched injured people being put into private cars for the long journey to the hospitals near to Phuket Town. It was maybe 30 minutes before any ambulances arrived at the airport. As the northern sector of Phuket starts to see an increase in hotels, condos etc, there is surely a need for a decent hospital in this area to serve both the local communities and the airport/hotels. On the (rare) occasions that my hotel guests have been taken ill, we have always driven them to hospital in our own car - it's the only practical thing that we can do. BTW, I think there are only about 14 ambulances in the whole of Phuket, including those vehicles of the volunteer organisations - and there is absolutely no central administration/management system of them, or provision of a single emergency telephone number. That's pretty shameful really. Simon
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23-09-2007, 20:31
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I know I am a bit off current discussion of this thread, but I must say that last Thursday my departure flight was my first time in my short flying experiences that I was afraid to fly. Makes your stomach drop when you are taxing in a plane before take off and see the remainder of the broken up plane next to the run way. Felt much different than driving past an auto accident.
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24-09-2007, 06:08
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Wind Shear
I wonder if they ever fixed the wind shear warning equipment? Supposedly, it wasn't working at the time of the accident. In any event, I canceled my upcoming trip to Phuket. I can't see risking my life because the people running Phuket airpoort can't be bothered to maintain the proper equipment.
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Better cancel the whole trip also to be really sure nothing happends.. And buy a helmet, you never knows what might fall down from the sky, a low cost carrier or something...
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24-09-2007, 22:39
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The Phuket authorities are arranging a merit making ceremony on October 8th
After the tragic air crash accident at Phuket Airport which killed 89 people, the Phuket Governor Nirand Kalayamit plans a merit making ceremony on Monday October 8th 2007. The governor said he would call a meeting with all related personnel including the victims’ families to hold a three-religion ceremony at the airport. He insisted that the ceremony would not disturb the passengers at the airport, but the ceremony would be a comfort for those who lost loved ones and those who were involved with the accident’s rescue and relief operation plus the general public.
To see or download mini-video, go to ThaisNews from Andaman News TV11 (VHF dial) 8.30am + maybe FM90.5 Radio Thailand 6pm, both broadcast to Phang Nga, Krabi & Phuket provinces, FM108 Mazz Radio 7.30pm in Phuket & Phuket Cable TV Channel 1 at 7, 10.30 or 11pm, Monday 24 September 2007 & Êӹѡ¢èÒÇ ¡ÃÁ»ÃЪÒÊÑÁ¾Ñ¹¸ì......ThaisNews »ÃШÓÇѹ¨Ñ¹·Ãì·Õè 24 ¡Ñ¹ÂÒ¹ 2550
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2 in 4 days>>>
Date: September 12, 2007 Time: 01:36 Location: Vilnius, Lithuania Operator: Scandanavian Airlines System (SAS) AC Type: de Havilland Canada DHC-8-402-Q400 Reg: LN-RDS cn: 4035 Aboard: 52 Fatalities: 0 Ground: 0 Route: Copenhagen - Palanga Details: The aircraft experienced technical difficulties and the crew decided to divert to Vilnius Airport. Upon landing the landing gear collapsed in a very similar way to LN-RDK, September 9, 2007. No injuries were reported. SAS decided to ground the entire fleet of Dash 8-400s until further notice. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: September 9, 2007 Time: 16:10 Location: Aalborg, Denmark Operator: Scandinavian Airlines System (SAS) AC Type: de Havilland Canada DHC-8-402-Q400 Reg: LN-RDK cn: 4025 Aboard: 73 Fatalities: 0 Ground: 0 Route: Copenhagen - Aalborg Details: Upon landing the right landing gear collapsed and the right wing and propeller struck the runway. The propeller then detached and sliced into the fuselage however it did not hit any passengers. The plane veered to the right and came to rest in the grass next to the runway. Five people sustained minor injuries.
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Thanks for your thoughts guys, I think the reason for the water was that the plane hit some sort of bank as someone said, not sure of the exact physics. Was at the funeral yesterday there were about 400 people there. Worst part was draping Aaron's coffin in an Arsenal football shirt all his friends had wrote messages on. I think Christy was released from ICU two nights ago, think they expect him to recover.
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Presumably if you ever make it to Phuket again (by land) you won't swim in the sea either because there was a tsunami here nearly 3 years ago. .and which airline were you thinking of flying with from the USA to Thailand by the way? Last edited by landofsmiles; 25-09-2007 at 20:16.
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Multi–faith religious ceremony now on Saturday 29 September
The Phuket authorities are now holding a multi–faith religious ceremony for the plane crash victims on Saturday 29th September 2007 at 15.00 hours. The ceremony will take place at the Phuket International Airport’s multi-purpose building.
(in Thai: จังหวัดภูเก็ต กำหนดทำบุญใหญ่ 5 ศาสนา อุทิศส่วนกุศลให้แก่ผู้เสียชีวิตจากอุบัติเหตุเครื่อ งบิน และเพื่อสร้างขวัญกำลังใจแก่ญาติผู้เสียชีวิต และสร้างความเชื่อมั่นแก่ประชาชนในการเดินทาง วันที่ 29 กันยายน 2550 เวลา 15.00 น. ณ บริเวณอาคารอเนกประสงค์ ท่าอากาศยานภูเก็ต )
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I also want to post my sympathies for the friends and family's of those on board
and anyone mentally affected by this kind of news. I was due to fly out the next morning after the crash, I called Tiger airways in Bangkok at 9am to change my ticket, but they didn't know there was a problem. It was sad to see a number of passengers waiting at Phuket airport after it had been re-opened had epileptic fits and panic attacks. It was very stressful for everyone. I feel sorry for the counter staff who were constantly interrupted and even abused by some tourists. The counter staff were not getting feedback from the scheduling people so they could pass it on to passengers. My 10 hour flight home to Perth via Singapore became 40 hours but I am glad to be able to fly back again next month with confidence. PS. I have never seen everyone on a flight hanging on to every word of the pre takeoff safety instructions until now.
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