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21-09-2007, 19:15
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Very sad. Condolences mate.
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21-09-2007, 19:19
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Capdagde who give a fcuk what he swam through, the geezer got out. How about some compassion for the guy whose mate died.
Myself, StiofanDerry, all I have to say is you have my condolences and thoughts for your mate who did not return and his family.
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21-09-2007, 19:47
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Capdagde who give a fcuk what he swam through, the geezer got out. How about some compassion for the guy whose mate died.
Myself, StiofanDerry, all I have to say is you have my condolences and thoughts for your mate who did not return and his family.
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Agree...
Sorry for the loss...
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21-09-2007, 20:13
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Capdagde who give a fcuk what he swam through, the geezer got out. How about some compassion for the guy whose mate died.
Myself, StiofanDerry, all I have to say is you have my condolences and thoughts for your mate who did not return and his family.
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what is all the fuss???
i dont see how Cap asked a bad question
listen it sucks that so many people died, but just like any event in the world, people want to know details
this is an information forum, so if people are easily offended over people discussing an even that is pretty crucial to them, and most guys on here fly inside Thailand, then maybe they shouldnt read this thread
i dont think anyone has asked or talked about anything offensive in this thread
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21-09-2007, 20:17
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Two of my friends were on board. I got a phone call last Sunday telling me it was their flight and that one was in intensive care, the other missing. Me and my friends sat around waiting for news until bedtime. I got the call on Monday telling me they'd found one of my mates, Aaron Toland's, body. My other friend Christy Cooley is still in hospital but is recovering, although they can't be sure if he's in the clear yet as he obtained severe head injuries. Aaron's body is being flown home tonight and his funeral is on Monday. Cooley should be home in 10 days.
I just heard Christy's story for the first time today, apparantely Christy was the only one of the front 80 onboard to survive. He said he was wakened by the bang and the aisle was waist deep in water, he had to swim down the plane. While he was swimming the roof collapsed, giving him his head injuries. He then managed to climb out the roof and once outside ran into the nearby jungle. He collapsed and woke up in hospital. Aaron had been on sleeping pills because he didn't like flying. Tragedy.
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that sucks
im sorry for your friend's losses
i think you own a bar in Pattaya? correct
im sure if your friend needs anything in Patong, there is always local BM's willing to help, best thing about this board
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21-09-2007, 20:56
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He said he was wakened by the bang and the aisle was waist deep in water, he had to swim down the plane. .
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Was it fuel he was swimming through ?
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This is what at least i feel was a stupid question..
If he just read the post properly, he shoudlnt have to ask a stupid question like that.
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22-09-2007, 05:06
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The headlines in Sweden now is about Dash-8-Q400 airplanes, looks like 3 airplanes of that kind had problems recently. SAS have stranded all their Dash planes for the time being, as a bolt in the landing wheel seems to get rusty and may cause problems. Dash is still a small part of the fleet but still a safety risk until these bolts has been replaced.
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22-09-2007, 05:10
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i read on the bbc news website that one 2 gos planes or the one which crashed were about 25 years old
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22-09-2007, 05:17
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I assume and guess that a fleet of newer planes are more safe than 25 old year airplanes, where some parts may not be so strong anymore and meet safety criterias. I dont know the reason for the Phuket accident, but I would still think that a newer fleet may be more safe.
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i read on the bbc news website that one 2 gos planes or the one which crashed were about 25 years old
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22-09-2007, 05:26
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yeah i mean i flew on one to go when i came to phuket in august but NOW knowing that the planes are from the soviet cold war era, and who knows were they are from i will pay extra and fly with someone more reliable , nok seems ok , not sure how old there planes are though
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22-09-2007, 05:38
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The headlines in Sweden now is about Dash-8-Q400 airplanes, looks like 3 airplanes of that kind had problems recently. SAS have stranded all their Dash planes for the time being, as a bolt in the landing wheel seems to get rusty and may cause problems. Dash is still a small part of the fleet but still a safety risk until these bolts has been replaced.
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The problems continue.. Tonight a Dash-8 from Augsburg Airways did a landing with problems with the nose wheel...
And SAS has found out that all 27 planes of that type in their fleet has the same problem. Corrosion on a bult. Can only be seen via xray, and its not written in the service manual from the manufacturer...
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22-09-2007, 05:51
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Two of my friends were on board.
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Condolences to you, friends and family for the loss of Aaron; and best wishes to Christy for a full and speedy recovery.
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22-09-2007, 14:36
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Capdagde who give a fcuk what he swam through, the geezer got out. How about some compassion for the guy whose mate died.
Myself, StiofanDerry, all I have to say is you have my condolences and thoughts for your mate who did not return and his family.
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I give a fcuk what he swam through as I am trying to imagine what I would have done in his position. If you think that's insensitive I'm sorry. If you read my previous post I offered condolences. Too many high-horseriders....
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22-09-2007, 15:25
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Two of my friends were on board. I got a phone call last Sunday telling me it was their flight and that one was in intensive care, the other missing. Me and my friends sat around waiting for news until bedtime. I got the call on Monday telling me they'd found one of my mates, Aaron Toland's, body. My other friend Christy Cooley is still in hospital but is recovering, although they can't be sure if he's in the clear yet as he obtained severe head injuries. Aaron's body is being flown home tonight and his funeral is on Monday. Cooley should be home in 10 days.
I just heard Christy's story for the first time today, apparantely Christy was the only one of the front 80 onboard to survive. He said he was wakened by the bang and the aisle was waist deep in water, he had to swim down the plane. While he was swimming the roof collapsed, giving him his head injuries. He then managed to climb out the roof and once outside ran into the nearby jungle. He collapsed and woke up in hospital. Aaron had been on sleeping pills because he didn't like flying. Tragedy.
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appreciate you sharing your experience, opens your eyes when it closer to home. i myself surived tsunumi, thank god, {thank god for too much singha}.
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But I have to wonder, what in hell could have caused the water and 'swimming' etc.. It didnt water land..
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All my sympathies go to you , Stiofan, your friends, and the Toland family for the tremendous loss you've all suffered.
In answer to your question, Sef, his mate was towards the rear of the aircraft. Apparently, when the cabin was damaged in the crash, the rain began pouring into the cabin, the rear section was lower than the front section and the water rolled to the back of the cabin, filling it as if it were a tube. This is the only logical explanation. In a tremendous torrential downpour, if the water has nowhere to drain off, a space as small as a section of the cabin can become filled very quickly with water coming in at damaged areas and rolling to the lower part of the cabin.
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22-09-2007, 15:31
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Thanks JayBee, sorry if my question was stupid...
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22-09-2007, 15:46
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All my sympathies go to you , Stiofan, your friends, and the Toland family for the tremendous loss you've all suffered.
In answer to your question, Sef, his mate was towards the rear of the aircraft. Apparently, when the cabin was damaged in the crash, the rain began pouring into the cabin, the rear section was lower than the front section and the water rolled to the back of the cabin, filling it as if it were a tube. This is the only logical explanation. In a tremendous torrential downpour, if the water has nowhere to drain off, a space as small as a section of the cabin can become filled very quickly with water coming in at damaged areas and rolling to the lower part of the cabin.
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Theres an answer I can at least understand.. I wasnt trying to be a cnut about it, just was trying to imagine what it could have been that required swimming through and was trying to visualize the incident.
And I still have a tough time doing so, as rain even torrential doesnt make waist deep swimming water and secondly I thought I had read the tail section dropped off / broke apart ?? Fuel was simply a suggestion but would there be that much ??
Again no disrespect intended just putting the pieces together in my mind..
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in some of the pictures of th accident you can see that the plane also ran across a large drainage ditch so it maybe collected a lot of water that way?
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it went through a berm full of water(big ditch)and that big jolt helped to break the plane up.
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i read on the bbc news website that one 2 gos planes or the one which crashed were about 25 years old
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I assume and guess that a fleet of newer planes are more safe than 25 old year airplanes, where some parts may not be so strong anymore and meet safety criterias. I dont know the reason for the Phuket accident, but I would still think that a newer fleet may be more safe.
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yeah i mean i flew on one to go when i came to phuket in august but NOW knowing that the planes are from the soviet cold war era, and who knows were they are from i will pay extra and fly with someone more reliable , nok seems ok , not sure how old there planes are though
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Valid points maybe about the age of the planes but read this and note the age of the plane?
Date: May 05, 2007
Time: ?
Location: Near Dizangue, Cameroon
Operator: Kenya Airways
Flight #: 507
Route: Abidjan, Ivory Coast - Douala, Cameroon - Nairobi, Kenya
AC Type: Boeing B-737-8AL
Registration: 5Y-KYA
cn / ln: 35071/2079
Aboard: 114 (passengers:105 crew:9)
Fatalities: 114 (passengers:105 crew:9)
Ground: 0
Summary: The plane crashed in a dense, swampy forested area, 5 km from Douala Airport, moments after taking off in stormy weather. The plane was just six months old.
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Two of my friends were on board. I got a phone call last Sunday telling me it was their flight and that one was in intensive care, the other missing. Me and my friends sat around waiting for news until bedtime. I got the call on Monday telling me they'd found one of my mates, Aaron Toland's, body. My other friend Christy Cooley is still in hospital but is recovering, although they can't be sure if he's in the clear yet as he obtained severe head injuries. Aaron's body is being flown home tonight and his funeral is on Monday. Cooley should be home in 10 days.
I just heard Christy's story for the first time today, apparantely Christy was the only one of the front 80 onboard to survive. He said he was wakened by the bang and the aisle was waist deep in water, he had to swim down the plane. While he was swimming the roof collapsed, giving him his head injuries. He then managed to climb out the roof and once outside ran into the nearby jungle. He collapsed and woke up in hospital. Aaron had been on sleeping pills because he didn't like flying. Tragedy.
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My deepest condolences to yourself, and the family of your friends.
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Another 1-2-Go incident
Bangkok Post: Second One-Two-Go plane has crash landing (link changed - see LOS post below)
A small incident - no one was hurt.
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