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05-06-2004, 21:46
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HAVE TO AGREE WITH YOU THERE JAWS........ ONE CRAP PICTURE.........MY GOD SON COULD SPOT THAT IT WASNT REAL !!!!! AND HES 2........ JONNY
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06-06-2004, 09:11
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African,
If I were you, I'd have her on the next plane to London as soon as she can get visa.!!! Othrwise, I hope your heart is made of tougher stuff than mine.  She won't be the same girl six months or a year from now, if you know what I mean. She's fresh  Chok dee, khrab  JAYBEE 
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06-06-2004, 14:59
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Had done that almost
But just waited 3 months. And the girl although not with other man (not a BG), just sacked me and I flew around the world for nothing!
Even if she is "fresh", the next cliënt is allready "consumed". I had girls, who were in the business longer, who how ever this is possible, still could be very enthousiastic! And oh yes, sad every time. A owner I talked to of a bar in karon sais: once a bg, always a bg! It is sad, but I guess it's true!!!
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06-06-2004, 22:08
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lol was thinking that. Am going back in December so will see how things turn out. Got phone call from her last nite saying miss u long time and so on. Not asked for a red cent yet..maybe still to come???? Hey whats los link in December?
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07-06-2004, 06:36
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I think when the girl is so young and not a lot of experience as BG, it is different than with older or more experienced TG, altho some of those show a remarkable resiliency.
This is probably her first experience of falling in love with handsome, young, "rich" farang. You are the man she has been dreaming of. You can make her dreams come true, if it works for you, too. You have to know what you want. As for money, if she has to work the bars, it is hard to say what will happen to her in six months time. Maybe she can handle it , maybe not. Still, I don't think that she'll be quite the same and you may be disappointed. IF she were willing to quit the bar and get a real job, pay her own way, and wait for you, that would say a lot about the kind of woman she is. But that is a lot to ask of her, because I'm sure that her Mom and Dad are expecting help from her. It is not an easy thing for falangs to understand, but in my discussions with BGs, masseuses, bartenders(men), and taxi drivers, the primary motivation of young Thais to make money is so that they can give money to their parents. If they can't do that, then they feel like they are big LOSERS. IF she doesn't ask you for money, that says something about her intentions and feelings for you. But you might consider offering her 5,000 or 10,000 Baht per month to wait for you 'til December. With that money and a real job, she could do OK and still be able to satisfy what she considers to be her obligations. That is very little money to you. It is an investment. Maybe a risky investment, but a small one. It all depends on the strength of your feelings for her. You are probably wise to wait until December rather than make such a big decision based on a spring fling of short duration. But 6 months is a long time, and many things can happen. To assess the risks, I suggest you read the thread "Thailady in Norway" by Geir, and also go to www.pattayapages.com and read the section about a couple such as you and Par and what happened to them. To find that story, first click on "The Girls", then click on "Confusion" and you will see their stories. They interview each, and it is very enlightening to see both sides of their story. Also, I do not recommend that you read "Private Dancer", since it is fiction and told from an extremely cynical point of view. Best of Luck. It is true that there always is another one, but she looks like a keeper to me. What can I say, I have a cynical side of me, which is what people usually see, but I am really a hopeless romantic at heart. I look at the picture of you and her, and thinkthat maybe you were "meant" to be together. I see two very happy campers in that pic. JAYBEE 
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07-06-2004, 06:41
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07-06-2004, 13:04
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Right! And she said she works a month in the bar (most of the bg's I had did!), but don't forget the family ALWAYS goes first, whatever happens! Can a young man like this support her every month with at least 10.000 bath? If EVER this girl comes to England, can he allready buy what she needs AND send money every month to her parents??? And as this girl is pretty, she can find enough men with the same story!!! Those "new" girls learn in a week EVERY TRICK from their co-workers!!! Don't get me wrong! It would be a fantastic "pretty woman" story in the east, and I hope that this can happen, but I have been around too long to be at least cynical! Last time a BG fell in love with me and I luckily not with her. One night I came to the house I rented, she was waiting since 4 hours for me!!! Yep she even quit the bar that evening, although I insisted she did not! Got sms all the time, but I never sended her money, i was not in love! After a month she went back to the....bar. I never promised her anything, been honest to her, but the reality is...if you give money for the "love" of a woman, even in this situation, where does love begins and the need end! But anyway, hey if you can make your dreams come through, you can try! But beware my friend, LOS is a place that can make you do crazy things, spin your head around, as long you don't get an hangover afterwise!!!
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07-06-2004, 15:24
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You may have picked the one in a million who is so fresh that she hasn't settled into her BG routine but it's a hell of a risk there are a thousand stories of how guys have sent money only to find out that the girl is still working bar when the farang thinks she's at home in the village with mama and papa. I've said before always pay the 1000 bht per day otherwise you will have problems latter on. Thai girls don't form serious relationships in two weeks this is a time process. It all sounds good bring her back but how is she going to deal with where you live, whats she going to do for work? Will they even let her in the country. This may all sound negative but let the buyer beware I say the sucess rate for most is not good. Better for you to think about living in or close to LOS no problem then if you get sick of your live in plenty more options.
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07-06-2004, 16:43
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Wow what have I started. Agreed love/real relationship can't be created in 1 week. I am also cynical.
Story from Her was Mamma dead and not seen Pappa in 5 years. Think she has a sister in Bangkok. Doubt she will have any interest in Coming to the UK. Lol I want out of the UK its a shit hole. Your proberly right in six months she will be very very different.
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07-06-2004, 16:47
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How many bg's have lost their mother! If she doesn't have relatives to send money to, why is she in the bar!
Proberly, because she has at least one child to support! Did she had birthmarks on her stomach??? Some have arwful ones! but not having them doesn't mean anything!!! My wife has none 
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07-06-2004, 17:20
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Well to answer that why do you work. Well the answer is MONEY. Why work in a bar well its quick and easy money. No no birth marks or anything.
She had a Thai boy friend that treated her like shit and blah blah blah and so on. Her one friend who I meet and was beautiful had three kids and was only 21.
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07-06-2004, 21:08
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The fake...
To many who pointed out the fake photo...no shit it was a fake....its as fake as the girls your dealing with, its make believe.
As I have talked to a few of you, I am with a tg for 3 yrs and understand a few things about life....the photo was meant as a symbolic message, no I am not with her, but someone is. Its simple and you all know it...does a pretty one get no notice by every swingin dik in los?? Come on. All relationships take time, but a thai relationship takes a lot more than most. My point is if a thai girl says anything about her feelings early on...its most likely bullshizit! Saying what you want to hear...I think that one is taught on page 2 of the thai girl handbook....bg or otherwise all get trained.....outside of the girls that come from the wealthy side of the tracks...that's another animal altogether. Please just realize that while anything is possible, your playing with fire to get involved as it were with a girl you met in this way...no it does not mean its impossible and yes I know its even happened, but just as people do win the lottery I've only read stories about it. I will be the first in the line of people that would tell you I would only want to be with a thai woman, in my book there is no comparison I simply love em, don't listen to me or anyone else around here and do what you want to do, but do it with a passion...if you want her then what are you waiting for and if not then cut it off and move on, the time we have here is all but a blink of an eye so grab what you can and enjoy life...the ups and the downs...who knows what will happen next. Forgive a long winded fool...I think you have been lucky in life already...you have already spent time with someone you obviously enjoyed spending time with...that in my book is never a waste of time....Enjoy.  Heywood
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07-06-2004, 22:23
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Woaw Ibiza! I think it is the girl and NOT YOU who should worry!
 About Singaphore! I am the first one to tell follow your dreams! As you I lived in rainy country, Belgium! I heard many people say "One day I will leave" They are still there!!!! Well not me! I sold everything and went to the South of France, as I speak perfect french! I also went to have a look in Spain, but that was not my piece of cake! So I live in France, I am happy have a wife of 35, 3 children, nice house and swimming-pool, and as I sold everything in Belgium very well, I don't work!! The first 4 years here just happy did not get bored and did not go on holliday anymore!!! Now I am 44 and this winter I did get bored! Went to Thailand with a friend and fall in love with a non-bg Thai girl, who forgotten all about me 3 months later! Why I did not move to LOS? Several reasons! Here I have Cannes and Nice, Aix en Provence less then on hour, but on the other hand I live very quiet! My wife is very attached to her parents, only child just like myself and Belgium is one hour flight away! About Singhapore, I HATED that city! I prefer the chaos of Bangkok, then a city wich has no soul and where the people were very cold! Now i Fly in winter 2 times a year to LOS have fun, and try to come back with my heart not to much upset! My wife is great understands, is herself faithfull, poor soul and we also have much fun together! If you want to see where we live, be free to watch my pictures: http://www.pbase.com/indieke/my_vill...d_70f&page=all Last edited by tintin : 07-06-2004 at 23:50.
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yours is much prettier!
And this girl was a lier and a cheat! She is the one I told you about the barfine!!! And who went out with her friends and left me alone!!!! 
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08-06-2004, 10:11
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Died and Gone to Heaven?
TINTIN,
You're killing me here, man!  Maybe I go to France and find your name on a tombstone, because I think you've died and gone to heaven. Beautiful land, beautiful house, beautiful children, don't have to work , and a beautiful wife who understands and is OK with you to go to LOS twice in each winter. This is more than any man has a right even to hope for!
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08-06-2004, 10:30
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As P.T. Barnum said...
HEYWOOD AND RIVER,
I met my ex-wife and we both fell in love on the night we met. We were happy together for many years. I still believe that she is the best thing that ever happened to me in my life, and I have told her so. In spite of a difficult divorce, which was very costly to me, we are still very good friends. If I were to figure out how much she cost me for every month we were together it would be many thousands of dollars. Whether you pay by the month or in the end, women are usually very costly. Ask any man who has been divorced. If he had money, she got some. If he had a good job, she may have gotten some of his future earnings. TGs believe in getting paid as you go, but in LOS from what Thais have told me, it is very difficult for the wife to get money in a divorce, so it is not surprising. Also consider that they don't have welfare as we know it, and only a few get a pension which probably doesn't amount to much anyhow. So I do believe in love at first sight. I have heard it said before that a TG can not fall in love in 2 weeks time, that they are different from farangs that way, and that if they tell you they love you, then they are playing a game. Maybe true. I have had it happen to me, but I didn't get burned because in one case I was lucky, and she chose another man, in another case it was apparent to me that she was lying. When they say, "I love you too much, darling," that is a tip-off. In the third case, last month I got an email from the last TG I was with 5 days before saying, "Love and miss you always", " Dont forget me, I never forget you," and "I wait for you come back to me." That was the last email I got from her, and the same thing happened with a different girl last year, except she wrote for 4 months. In the 3rd case, although I miss her tremendously, I had already decided that my feelings for her weren't strong enough that I would pursue her. I miss her just the same. After all of this, I still believe in love. Call me crazy. And I find it hard to believe that a young Italian woman(my ex) can fall in love at first sight, but that it could never happen to even one Thai woman. Especially a young woman. They do watch American movies, and I think some are influenced. Maybe impossible? Who knows for sure? As P.T. Barnum, the famous circus entrpreneur once said, "There's a sucker born every minute." That's for sure. It may be the BG credo. But someone else once said, "'Tis better to have loved and lost than never to have loved at all." It was a British poet(Elizabeth Barret Browning?). I think they are both right, but when forced by events to choose one sage precept over the other, I'll go with the poet.
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