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agree 100% about plenty more modern girls about not under daddys eyes. agree her upbringing/lifestyle would not be to alls liking, and of course that is personal choice, but i made a conscious effort to meet that sort of girl.
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08-10-2007, 09:26
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Fair play to you.. Thats what you felt you wanted and what you went out to find (and found).. Well done and good luck.
Its however not a universal route or a universal TG set of attributes that defines a 'good' TG (I dislike that term myself) tho was all I was trying to say.
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08-10-2007, 10:01
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I want that news reader on Channel 7. Total babe and says 'Khap' alot.
Nice hair and she's got a cup of coffee, which is more than I have. I wonder if her number is in the UBC program guide? I'll take a look.
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08-10-2007, 10:40
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I agree entirely, from my limited experience. Coming to LOS means there is a pre-requirement to leave your perceptions, predjudices and values where they belong, in your home country. LOS is very different, thats why so many love it.
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08-10-2007, 15:53
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Everyone will have an opinion,
My view and opinion is based on personal experience with BG's and TG's whilst visiting Thailand. The first BG who l really liked was wonderful however the bar scene ruined her the nature of the business over time resulted in an detrimental effect. I don't want a girl who has slept with a thousand men, or a women who feels comfortable moving from one man to another in the space of hours or a day. Once a women had done this it will change her. Her attitude to sex and also her view of men in general. Having this kind of sex has changed me!? so i understand what they must be going through it, really no different for men or women! As a person i am no-longer interested in a BG's no more than they are interested in a butterfly, they are the same thing. I want a girl with a clean slate again this is not a dig at BG's and yes you can meet and be happy with a bar girl all the best to those who have done so. My experience of my own has indicated to go the route i'm going I've been with BG's and just don't feel that's where i need to be looking but each to there own. 
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08-10-2007, 15:59
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Interesting question.. How do you feel that has changed you ??
I personally can sleep with someone I love, go out get a soapie, perhaps have a nosh, a few drinks and come home and sleep with someone I have emotional attachment to (if I take a zinc supplement  ).. How has that in any way changed me ??
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08-10-2007, 16:37
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So by meeting someone off a website, and because it tells you they have never been a bg that is enough to ensure they have never 'slept around'?
Firstly nearly all websites state the girls have never worked in bars, how does anyone know, well of the two I know of personally they make the same statement and its not correct. Secondly, how do you know the girl has not freelanced? an awful lot of Tg's have and do, but they still work in 9 to 5 jobs as well. What is an average tg's attitude to sex and finding a partner? There is three posts all of the same nature at the moment, good luck to you in your search. Really you want to meet a thai girl who has not worked in the scene, only one way, come here and live, integrate with locals and go from there. With an open mind to the relationship, not one of, I'm looking for a wife, it is the same as walking round with a large hook in your hand trying to snare the first girl who qualifies, she'll see it coming from a mile off!!. Two out of the three of you will fail, I put it as that percentage so each of you can think its the other two guys!!!
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08-10-2007, 18:54
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Damn, thats philosophical. You been drinking?? 
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08-10-2007, 19:27
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sure 'she' says KHAP ???? ....... i prefer my ladies to say Kahhhh H3X
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08-10-2007, 20:27
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Ah Ha!! Dman caught out with a bit of your crap tinglish!!!!! check out your little phrase book na!!!
(Just a side note to silentbob, all Denver's type of 'girls' say Khrap)
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I thought this was an excellent post by fun2have. Accurate. A good girl checklist if you will. ....but don't flatter yourself...not every good girl in Thailand is dreaming about landing a rich farang....most hardly give us a thought until we find a way to stumble into their lives....and I'd just repeat the "marry the girl, you marry the family" line. BTW You don't have to go the countryside to find traditional girls, plenty in the suburbs of Bangkok. Just the huge factory where my wife worked as an office girl and you'll see about a thousand prospects. University educated, intelligent, fun to be with but their normal day to day life does not bring them into contact with farangs.....they are there but YOU have to go to them...Enjoy. __________________ "Heaven holds a sense of wonder...and I wanted to believe..."
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08-10-2007, 21:41
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I am the same, and will be the same but now need a relationship something which is real. "Someone I have emotional attachment to" This is now what I want, sleeping with loads of girls the buzz wears a bit thin, to the point it started to bore me and mess with my mind. I have never stated anything being 100% to what is going to happen. I have in my opinion possibly narrowed what I feel a few negative's with thai girls and my relationships with them. It does not guarantee my outcome in any way. Some people may feel yes there are negative's to what I'm doing but what may work for them does not necessary work for me. As I said my own experiences with BG's have given me enough information to make a decision to pursue the direction I now find myself taking. It was not based on what someone told me or recommended. Again I am not here posting to prove what may be right or wrong or if TG's are better than BG's but to only hopefully find a thai girl to whom I shall be happy and enjoy a long term relationship with. I sincerely believe my chances of that will be better suited with a TG who has not worked in a bar or wishes to pursue the position of prostitute for financial gain. My general view based on personal experience. This is only my story and like everything in my life I will try to make this work to the best of my ability.
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08-10-2007, 22:44
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But I still dont understand how this has 'changed you' ??
Take the sleeping for one night out.. And whats the difference between "being with someone for personal gain" and any other relationship where the major appeal is the fact you come from a wealthy background.. I am not trying to pick at you or argue.. I do understand where your coming from.. Only I have seen complete b1tches that were good girls and known great girls that were in the scene.. I think either approach requires a long term commitment to staying here to find out prior to the visa to Europe and not seeing them in thier natural environment. Plus you then get 6 months and its real western marriage time (to stay in UK) which puts other pressures on.. I would use the money to spend 6 months here finding miss right.. No matter where you looked for her..
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08-10-2007, 23:03
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I know its a huge gamble no matter how i dress it up sure it's a big risk, but i can only work within the confines i am given. I am going to use my experience of judgement when meeting these girls in December to hopefully allow me to choose someone that's will settle down for all the right reasons. It could go wrong but what if it goes right ? It's something that could work perfect for me, I can debate it, talk about it, or better still go and do it. Works for many people if it's works for me great if not no real big deal I'm a big lad my old life will still be there waiting for me. One thing for sure which I haven't felt in a while is I am really looking forward to this trip in December.......
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09-10-2007, 01:49
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As I said before BGs and TGs are all genuine Thai ladies.
Sometimes TGs are worse than BGs in a relationship as could be the other way around. One advise : really know the person before commiting yourself and also KNOW what her family will expect from you. Good luck.
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09-10-2007, 02:11
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Just my 2 cents and I wish you much success in your quest. But why would you want a girl from a culture that expects you to take care of her family? Unless you're a wealthy man this would be a major hurdle and stress on the marriage from the start. Or are you looking for one that does not require that?
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Do you have to that wealthy? doesnt this depend on the family? cant the missus get a job? if the marriage is farang&thai shouldnt it fit both lifestyles? Interesting to hear how it works to those that are hitched,I dont imagine its all wine&roses but surely any marriage takes alot of work regardless. Still I am thai biased having just been dumped by my x-farang GF after 4 years for looking at another woman at a concert... ....&the gig was crap! 
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Thanks for the advice
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09-10-2007, 14:50
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Your missing the major advice from Lil and myself, come over get to know her first or get to know tg's until you find the right one, but nope you would rather run the percentages way up there by thinking you have enough experience to be able to judge someone over a two week period???
You can never just go back to your old world, because time doesn't stand still and you will find its not the same anymore. But good luck to you on your quest.
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09-10-2007, 15:04
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By the end of my last tour, I was definitely feeling the urge to find just one girl to hook up with, possibly leading to a commitment. After having spent 3 months in LOS, the idea of hooking up with |
