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04-06-2004, 20:04
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Life changing experiences
Hi,
I have just finished reading an excellent posting from JayBee about what it feels like when you return home from LOS. It's strange how nearly all of us follow the same pattern with our feelings and emotions. Even though I wouldnt swap my experiences for anything, sometimes a little part of me wonders if Thailand has 'fcuked me up' for 'normal life' (whatever that is supposed to be). A long time ago I stopped telling people about Thailand because you could tell they didnt understand and I was beginning to bore people with it. Some of the guys I work with (a really great set of people) always say how they would love to go to Thailand etc but one of them has never even been abroad!! Sometimes I think my head may be in less turmoil if I had never been. I would have a 'normal' job with a 'normal' girlfriend, probably be married with a mortgage and kids, and then I would just have to accept that that was my lot. Do I want a life like that? NO FCUKING WAY! Some of the people I know look so worn out with the drudgery of life that I know I will NEVER be in their position. I dont think I am any better than them, but I dont want a life like theirs. There is a big wide world out there with lots to see and do, and it is criminal in this day and age, with travel being so easy, that people dont do more with their lives. As for girlfriends in the UK, then I guess I am very lucky. After I came back from LOS for the first time (over 3 years ago) I have NEVER even tried to chat up a girl. I cant be fcuking bothered. I am really not interested in all the shit you have to go through just to end up shagging the skanky mutts, so I dont even bother. I dont want kids and I dont want to be married, so thats that  Where I am lucky is that I still see a girl who I used to live with. We only see each other 3 or 4 times a month. She knows EVERYTHING I have been up to in LOS (ladyboys, sexual diseases, the LOT !) and we still end up in the sack  and she definately doesnt want a relationship with me again It probably took me over 2 years to really get straight in my head, things about Thailand. I now treat it as Adult Disneyland. I dont want to 'fall in love' with a Thai because I dont want children and to be married, so it is easy for me. I go on holiday, meet some great people, and end up with some of the best times I have ever had in my life. Do I want it full time? I dont think so. Not for me. It would probably change my view on the place. I already see a lot more of the 'real' way that thailand is, than the first timers, and if I really really got to know Thailand well it would spoil it. A couple of holidays a year gives me something to look forward to. Coming back home and doing things is also very important. I think you MUST try and lead a 'normal' life back home. If you think about LOS too much, then it will eat away at you all the time. I love to read other peoples posts and opinions. There are things that have been said here which have really helped me to get some shit straight in my head. You guys are a good laugh and it is nothing but fun when we get together. I think xmas is going to be an incredible event this year. I must start saving money now! For a new liver......
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04-06-2004, 20:46
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[quote=mikegb]Hi,
I have just finished reading an excellent posting from JayBee about what it feels like when you return home from LOS. It's strange how nearly all of us follow the same pattern with our feelings and emotions. Even though I wouldnt swap my experiences for anything, sometimes a little part of me wonders if Thailand has 'fcuked me up' for 'normal life' (whatever that is supposed to be). A long time ago I stopped telling people about Thailand because you could tell they didnt understand and I was beginning to bore people with it. Mike Everything you say is true But for me its too late I have spent the last year living every minute of every day Thailand and yes it does seriously fcuk you up. My mate Tommy is the same all we talk about is LOS, we must be really boring to some people, but more and more we are converting. Ive had 5 mates over to Patong this year and now everyone of them are hooked I dont know the last time I looked at a farang chick albeit Im out most weekends in Scotland when not in LOS So I have bitten the bullet, I gave my work 1 year's notice last Dec, so will be moving to Khon Kaen & Phuket in Nov-04. My plan is to do 2 months Thailand and 1 month Scotland. Im in the fortunate position that I have a house and established business there which is doing okay, so now the next test is can I live with my GF 24/7 The board is great but for me it's like a drug, if you need a little Thailand hit you just log on lie back and get your high G
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04-06-2004, 20:49
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If does mess with your head. Got back on Monday and cant think of anything else. Hated England before I went but hate it evern more now. I just want out of here but as life things are not that easy.
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04-06-2004, 21:04
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GREAT POST MIKEE BOY........... I SUPPOSE EVERY THING IN REFERS TO ALL OF US ONE WAY OR THE OTHER.........NEARLY HAD ME IN TEARS....... JONNY 
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05-06-2004, 04:06
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Being Intelligent
What I really like about this board is that most of the postings give me cause to think. I agree with what Mike says except that I think I was already in the frame to become a Thailand groupie even before I had ever been to LOS.
When I was young I thought life should be a certain way. My dream was to have a successful career, a girl who loved me, a couple of charming children, and a solid bunch of friends. For a while it all worked out but after 14 years of marriage the strain of managing a "successful career" which actually meant 08:00 to 22:00 at grindstone, having no soul, and a bored feckless wife, proved too much. Divorce was inevitable. Despite the fact that she had run off with another man and deserted the family she still got most of the money and the children. I felt betrayed. The dream was vapour. I had also begun to despise European women. Thailand was a healing panacea. Disneyland yes. But something else as well. In Thailand you are stripped of your pretentions. No-one knows or cares about the machinations of your career. The status symbols which seemed so important in England are not carried across the culture gap. Who cares if you buy Armani shirts when you can get a "genuine" copy for 500 Baht. I found the whole experience exhilerating and life changing. All that really matters in LOS is how you behave. Most Thai people think you are already stupid so anything you do which makes you appear less stupid is a blessing to them. I do not know about relationships with BG's. But I definitely have a relationship with Thailand. I am sure that there are many worms under the stones if you turn them over but that is true in any country. I like the pace of life, I like Mai Pen Rai. On balance Thailand has returned my soul and restored my faith in women. The European people I have met have been broad minded and "jai dee". The girls are kind hearted for the most part and have none of the neuroses I see so much of in London. Short of screwing me up Thailand has rearranged my priorities. It is only difficult because those new priorites are not compatible with a rat race, money focused, materialistic existence in England... Last edited by Mac : 05-06-2004 at 04:17.
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05-06-2004, 06:10
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i agree with your train of thoughts here, even though i have never been married kids etc . My first visit to Thailand was with a mate who talked me into it after what at the time felt like the biggest heart break up of my life, if im honest i felt like i had lost the world and more when my long time g.f and me split up. well will not bore you with details but troubles at home were soon forgotten,for me anyway. The will always be something magical about Thailand it is like a form of escapisum but it has also took me to another level in my life, i think like most of the male members of this forum the idea of settling with with a western woman (and im not being nasty now)just does not appeal to me any longer. what i want from life now has changed a great deal , my idea of happiness has changed so much that i do get a lot of stick from so called friends, i have taken on board shall we say family values , my family come first before all else , which if im honest not so long ago when i lived with my ex was not the case.(she always had to be no 1 be all end all ) i think that is why i am so looking forward to taking my dad with me on my next tour,to show the sights and i mean all the sights (he is really looking forward to the dirty mike tour) it would be so easy now to slip into telling you what my families reaction to me is ,but i think we all know from our own experiances what that is . needless to say i am a changed person and i belive for the better.
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05-06-2004, 09:22
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Thanks Mike, G and Mac - The quality and thought behind your posts are outstanding...
For me its hard to say... I left Australia nearly 7 years ago and have been doing the Expat thing ever since and have no intention of returning in the near future... A long time ago I lost faith in Aussie girls as it seemed like too much hard work and I had seen my friends get right messed up with divorces and the likes. I believe that western women in their drive to become equals or betters to men have forgotten the basics between men and women. Its all about love and respect - not about who runs the show and who scores the most points. I have no problem with treating a girl as my equal - I will even do so and put her on a pedestal if I get the respect I deserve... The femme nazis of this world have a lot to answer for - At home you can see an entire generation of men (The one after mine) that have know idea what their role is in life as they are expected by nature to be a man but told by society what they know to be biologically true is wrong. Just check out the suicide rate in young Australian males and you can get all the proof you need. The caring , loving nuturing woman has become a shark to her own fathers, brothers, sons and lovers - She has become one of the greatest threats to society having forgotten what makes them the greater sex in favour of competition and one ups manship with their other half. I am sure there are a multitude of men haters that read this board and hate every single one of us Board Members because we won't comply with their twisted view of the world - Let them. (BTW You only have to see the amount of virus infected emails caught in my yahoo account everyday to knwo we are being watched and despised) I am not a woman hater. I am not a woman abuser. I am a product of a western wolrd gone insane with political correctness - I accept who I am... Has LOS messed with my head??? No - It has saved my soul from the rot of living a 9 to 5, kids in the station wagon, house paid for by 55 robotic, retire at 65 life where I am always having to say I am sorry for being a man.
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05-06-2004, 14:03
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THATS A FIRST JAYBEE............................................ ........ JONNY 
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05-06-2004, 15:39
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Indeed It Is, Jonny!!
Rarer Than The Proverbial Blue Moon (no, Not Blue Diamond) !!!! JAYBEE
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05-06-2004, 17:34
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05-06-2004, 17:49
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The one common theme i noticed with alot of guys including personal friends is they have in some form been burnt by their farang women either in the form of divorced, being cheated on...............etc.
Now I can appreciate asian women..there is know question about that, but I still would never totally discount the prospect of finding a caucasian woman that fits the "asian" profile.beleive me their are some very nice farang women too that are more than willing to please.........the trick is to show them that YOU are in control. Its when they DON"T see you asserting your authority etc ..thats when they start to lose respect for you...............well thats what my previously married friends say anyway. I've never been married yet.........but I wouldn't discount the possibility if the right woman came along
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05-06-2004, 18:37
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Well honestely, how much I care about asian girls, nobody can replace my wife!
We have money, I don't work, she never ask to buy her something, she has her head firmely on her shoulders. Most people like her, because she is generous and good hearted! Of course she has her flaws too, but I married a fantastic woman, who only had one man in her life; me!!! She even understands my midlife -crissis to go to Thailand and f***ck youn girl of 20! Ok I don't look like Dracula or Frankenstein, but I don't want a real relation! I fell in love once with a Thai girl though, even had her picture on my desk! She said nothing! Because she was smart, and knew it would blow over. and yes the Thai-girl left me!! So not everybody here is dissapointed in "farang" women!! You can talk to them, they can be pretty, they also DO grow older! having a real"mate " for 17 years is another pleasure then holding a 20 year -old Thai-girl in your arms!
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07-06-2004, 10:09
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07-06-2004, 15:44
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Slice of Paradise
Nice post Mike!
All I can say is LOS for me is anything I ever wanted if I'm looking for a serious relationship no problem if I'm looking for no commitment no problem if I want to shag a different girl everynight no problem LOS delivers the goods. The other obvious pluses are the weather I like it hot the food I love Thai food and even started getting into Thai TV last time( god forbid ). Phuket is one of the most beautiful islands on earth filled with beautiful people what more do you want. However I never forget when on holiday I'm only renting a slice of paradise the reason I never sleep with ******s at home other than the price is you're not getting anything other than sex. With BG's you also get affection when you go to the beach she puts the suntan lotion on your back. If you need yor nails trimmed she will do it, she will fold your clothes in your room and put them away for you this is the real difference I think. But I never forget I'm there for two weeks one month whatever, I'm only renting my slice until I return to do it all over again.
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07-06-2004, 16:50
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PHUKET IS HEAVEN ON EARTH........... AND WHEN I DIE I HOPE HEAVEN IS LIKE PHUKET......... ITS TRUE ABOUT THE BGs.....SEX WITH THEM IS GREAT UNLIKE THE SEX WITH PROSTITUTES IN FARANG LAND..ITS MECHANICAL........NO KISSING ,NO AFFECTION..ITS CRAP AND A WASTE OF HARD EARNED MONEY......... JONNY
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07-06-2004, 18:56
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As usual the legend that is MikeGB speaks complete sense. I have just booked my accomodation at the C&N for Christmas/NY and am counting down the days already(200 as of today). I will be ok once EURO2004 starts as that will take my mind off how long there is to go for a while at least. I try very hard not to look forward to going back to LOS because it appears from the outside as though that is the only thing in my life which is wrong. IMHO I try and arrange something to look forward to every weekend(trying to do it for everyday is nigh on impossible
 ) because I know that if I sit around for any amount of time before too long I will be reaching for the photo albums of my last three trips and it will depress me knowing there is still such a long time to go. The obvious thing to do I suppose is after I come back in the New Year is not to plan another trip to LOS and look at other destiniations around the world however as I get a crap amount of annual leave(20 just in case you are all wondering) I am loathed to waste it or risk it on somewhere I have never been or not been recommended. Perfect example is last weekend I went to Budapest with a few mates for a stag weekend. Budapest is a nice place,don`t get me wrong but the attitude of the locals especially in the service industry left a bitter taste in the mouth. They changed the price of the beer from hour to hour,the table dance bars were a massive con(we were warned but desperation prevailed:a lesson learnt) and even in our 5 star hotel they tried to charge us for the accomodation even though it was prepaid. I could not imagine these things happening in LOS although I have been to a couple of bars where the odd extra drink tab has appeared in the container but that has been resolved in a calm and honest manner. Needless to say I cannot wait to go but will have to be patient and try and live a normal life until then. Apologies for the rant but Mike hit the nail on the head when he said you must not let LOS eat away at you. We all have a life to lead,don`t let your craving for LOS distract you from what/who is important in your life. Saying that roll on 23 December
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07-06-2004, 19:39
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HI YE COOPS.... WHAT DID THE C&N CHARGE YOU FOR CRIMBO? I SENT THEM AN EMAIL AND THEY ARE LOOKING FOR 1500. I TOLD THEM THAT I AM STAYING THERE FOR JULY AND ASKED THEM COULD THEY GIVE ME A SPECIAL DEAL AS I WAS USING THE HOTEL ALOT.THEY SAID THEY WOULD TALK TO ME WHEN I ARRIVE....... I AM GOING TO USE THE JULY TOUR TO WALK INTO SOME HOTELS TO CHECK OUT QUALITY OF ROOMS AND PRICES.... I KNOW THE C&N IS VERY HANDY BUT 1500 IS A BIT MUCH.. WILL KEEP ALL BMs POSTED ON FINDINGS OVER THE JULY TOUR.... JONNY...SEE YE AT XMAS COOPS..........
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