Pleasure and pain

[JayBee]

Originally Posted by mikegb

.They want too much from me.
I am happier having a tug. At least you dont have to cuddle it afterwards or buy it drinks.

The best bit about LOS is you can snuggle up with something really beautiful, that you know you would NEVER get hold of back home. Once you start to get a bit of grief, you boot them out and get another.

Easy.

Western women?

Snakes with tits. The lot of them.

HERE, HERE !!!!!!!

That's it! They want too much. They never stop. No matter how nice you are, they want more. If you drink too much('cause they drive you to it), then it's "If he would just quit the bottle, then all would be fine." But if you quit, then it's "If he would just stop hanging out with his no account friends,..." Concede that(you'd be a fool if you did), and it's "If he would just take me on a holiday more often, " "If he would just spend less," "If he would just spend more time around the house," etc., etc. No matter what you do for them, there is always something else. It only ends when you are dead or divorced. You may as well be a drug addict and a wh*remonger, better to be harassed over something significant, than to spend your life getting nagged about mowing the lawn and taking out the trash, leaving the toilet seat up, and cleaning the crumbs from the counter.

I love women. It's not that guys wouldn't rather be banging a sweet pussy , than choking the chicken, but I'll not be treated like a dog that's being trained to jump through hoops to get his treat.

Thank you, Jesus, for LOS. Praise Allah for the BGs. And a special thanks goes out to Buddha for being Lord of a land where there is still a little sanity when it comes to the way a woman is taught to treat a man. Imagine picture of guy on his knees praying here.

[Coolhand]

Farang lady should yakes some hints from this website:-

http://www.sickone.com/bj.html

[mikegb]

Hi Coolhand



I thought that was great.

I love number 15. The girl I used to live with has just taken to getting rid of ALL the hair from her muff (she never did that when I was with her. She must have someone else ), and when I saw that about the poultry past its sell by date it really hit the spot. Mind you, it still doesnt stop me from licking hers

[r3aps]

Originally Posted by mikegb

Hi Coolhand



I thought that was great.

I love number 15. The girl I used to live with has just taken to getting rid of ALL the hair from her muff (she never did that when I was with her. She must have someone else ), and when I saw that about the poultry past its sell by date it really hit the spot. Mind you, it still doesnt stop me from licking hers

quality but how i wish the thai bg would practise number 7.

7. HANGING AROUND: When he is done, you should not kiss and cuddle, he does not want to touch you. You should leave the bed and leave him in peace. If you are a one-night stand you should leave the premises with out thieving anything or asking for a phone number.

steve

[Geir]

Originally Posted by r3aps

quality but how i wish the thai bg would practise number 7.

7. HANGING AROUND: When he is done, you should not kiss and cuddle, he does not want to touch you. You should leave the bed and leave him in peace. If you are a one-night stand you should leave the premises with out thieving anything or asking for a phone number.

steve

Yea, Its strange women never understand this. Im dont know the number of times I have to push the lady away after filling her up.
Hawe you noticed that some of them even want the river of sperm from their pussy to hit your belly after having sex
geir

[Jojo`76]

I believe these kind of arguments about man & woman living happily together for a lifetime can never lead to sound conclusions.

The reason is: marriage is un-natural. It exists for the sake of upbringing the new generation and for economical reasons. Since the human race has made that leap forward in relation to other similar to him mammals, the problem arose of who was to take the responsibility of bringing up the children + how was the private fortune be handleded to the next generation.

Some societies (now extinct) chose the more open option of a communal life where the concept of husband and wife was very loose and the responsibility fell upon every member of the society. Other societies have chosen the triangular family (mom, dad, children) with some variations (christians, muslims, buddhists etc.)

Putting two individuals exclusively together for the rest of their lives is something that most mammals will not stand, at least when there is a choice. I think this only works with doves and other simpler animals who are genetically programmed to function this way

The reason why this does not work for us is our sexual drive. Especially in primates it is very strong and not coupled with a similar drive to stick with one partner for the rest of our lifetime. This is where the economical part comes in: as a perfect incentive to suppress our unlimited sex drive. Doesn`t anyone agree that marriage gets better when economic security is there? It makes it at least more bearable...

Of course friendship and other factors between the couple play also a leading role in the outcome of a marriage, but one thing is certain: sex gets boring after some time if practiced with one person exclusively.

Therefore regarding the views of whether a couple should be faithful to each other, it`s really a matter a choice that preferibly both lovers should make, openly and sincerely. It`s a matter of how two people want to deal with a lifestyle that opposes their true nature. Some people prefer or have simply learned to lie to themselves and others, while other people choose the risky way of opposing hundreds of years of culture and tradition.

No rights or wrongs here, just natural tendencies and the way we choose to deal with them.

[tintin]

Originally Posted by JayBee

I am single, but have been married. When I was married, I never went to LOS or anywhere like it. I had a friend who did and told me his stories. At the time, my marriage was a happy one, but it still sounded ilke a fun thing to do, and I suggested to my wife that we take separate vacations. She would have none of it, and all our vacations were boring trips to visit relatives. Eventually I refused to go with her, stayed at home and worked.
Was she interested in my happiness? No. Did she think that our love was strong enough to withstand my having a little fun with younger women in a far-off land? Apparently not. If love is strong, a fling with a BG won't break it. Love involves so much more than sex, which is just a small part of it.
Women are concerned primarily with security, and are threatened by other women, who they think will take their man. OR they are more concerned with what their friends and neighbors might be saying behind their backs.
Few women understand men and what makes a man happy. To any woman I say, until you have a set of ***** hanging between your legs, pumping testosterone through your system, you are judging men by the standards of what women feel and think and believe. If you want a woman for a husband, fine, many women are doing that now. But we are men and refuse to be like women. You ought not be so quick to judge. If you were a man, you would understand and might not be so different yourself.

I agree totally with this post! Somebody else saying it is sweet music in my ear!

[tintin]

Originally Posted by chanook

Cadia,

thank you for your kind comments!
You really dont know how brilliant i am to my wife or how much i love my family. I wouldn't say that i am brilliant but i would say that i am generally a good person who treats people right and with respect. Would i be a better person if i generally treated them bad and with no feeling whilst i was here but did not go to Thailand for the occasional R'nR. No. As has been mentioned many times in this thread, many men can quite easily seperate love for ones family and the desire to fulfill their sexual desires with other ladies. i certainly can.

'Such poor wives' - my wife is very happy actually. I do not believe that she does know that i will have been doing things in Thailand. She is not stupid. She has seen the pictures of BGs etc. She also realises that love and lust are different commodities, and can sometimes sit side by side. If my love and lust are seperated by thousands of miles then i believe she is quite content. Much better than me satisfying my natural urges on my own doorstep and having a chance to develope into something more than a good time.

I Looove this! Feels I am not alone in the world! I had a virgin bride ( welll euh not quiet, I was the first), and I never, ever thought about cheating on my wife!

Los got me.....by the balls! But the first time it was tough, like you all know the story!

We talk a lot about this, my wife and I! I feel a bit guilty that SHE cannot do the same! It would hurt me, because I am the only guy who shared the sheets with her! But if that was her wish, ok it is not, if I knew that she really only cared about our relation, then even with the hurt, if it was only because she needed an experiment other then me, well I will let her have it!

I don't, have any problems of going for payed sex with TG's, not at all!

But the butteflies I felt for one tg, made me uncomfortable! I still wonder how my wife kept it cool!

I think, although some rough comment I had here on the situation, I deeply am very happy with my wife! I love my kids, but like somebody said so nice in this post, we have our desires, wich are different from those of a woman !

I am looking forward on my trip alone in November, but even more on the one end January with my wife, where I want her to be spoiled as well as she wants to be!!!

Jojo 76, I can't agree with you!!! It is very difficult to live with the same partner all these years! But honestely I am proud of her! We are a couple, honnest to each other and caring very much, accepting the things we DON't like about each other!

[mikegb]

Originally Posted by Jojo`76

I believe these kind of arguments about man & woman living happily together for a lifetime can never lead to sound conclusions.

The reason is: marriage is un-natural. It exists for the sake of upbringing the new generation and for economical reasons. Since the human race has made that leap forward in relation to other similar to him mammals, the problem arose of who was to take the responsibility of bringing up the children + how was the private fortune be handleded to the next generation.

Some societies (now extinct) chose the more open option of a communal life where the concept of husband and wife was very loose and the responsibility fell upon every member of the society. Other societies have chosen the triangular family (mom, dad, children) with some variations (christians, muslims, buddhists etc.)

Putting two individuals exclusively together for the rest of their lives is something that most mammals will not stand, at least when there is a choice. I think this only works with doves and other simpler animals who are genetically programmed to function this way

The reason why this does not work for us is our sexual drive. Especially in primates it is very strong and not coupled with a similar drive to stick with one partner for the rest of our lifetime. This is where the economical part comes in: as a perfect incentive to suppress our unlimited sex drive. Doesn`t anyone agree that marriage gets better when economic security is there? It makes it at least more bearable...

Of course friendship and other factors between the couple play also a leading role in the outcome of a marriage, but one thing is certain: sex gets boring after some time if practiced with one person exclusively.

Therefore regarding the views of whether a couple should be faithful to each other, it`s really a matter a choice that preferibly both lovers should make, openly and sincerely. It`s a matter of how two people want to deal with a lifestyle that opposes their true nature. Some people prefer or have simply learned to lie to themselves and others, while other people choose the risky way of opposing hundreds of years of culture and tradition.

No rights or wrongs here, just natural tendencies and the way we choose to deal with them.

Wow! That was deep

But it was fcuking spot on. Good post.

p.s. I hope my brain hasnt been pre-programmed like a doves One partner for life? Yikes!

[Phil_in_Thai]

Originally Posted by cadia

I wonder if your wife read these words. How brilliant you are, and how wonderful your love is with your family!

Just a thinking from a woman - feel very sick about some men in this forum cheating on their wives. If you guys are single, it will be ok to find someones. But some of you guys are married. You went to Thailand for a "golf vacation" - as you told your wife, and now you are depressed, and dreaming about new trips.

Such poor wives who has husbands like some of you guys here!

I was the model husband, father and provider for 11 years. Put heart and soul in to the family and spent every available penny on them. Despite my dedication I couldnt leave the house for 10 mins without being accused of chasing women. I never did. One day I got piles and she accused me of having a gay lover......too much for me.

I confess to have made up for lost time in the 15 years since. Id hesitate to critisize any man or woman for having a discrete 'hobby' provided he/she played safe and protected the 'innocent' from nasties like HIV/syph etc.

My first Thai gf showed my what Id been missing and there is nothing that could persuade me to go back.

[ajgrant63]

I hate people that preach and will push a conversation to the limit to try and get their point of veiw across. I respect peoples opinion and their right to express it......but give me a break. Cadia, I get the point that you don't like guys that cheat on their wives. Thats your opinion and you have expressed it...(lots of times). Now I think it is time to change the record. Preaching your beliefs isn't going to change how I think. I am not going to read your posts and say "sh!t, she's right, I better stop my philandering...."
Each to their own. If you don't like reading about married men having fun then don't read the post.

[JayBee]

Originally Posted by ajgrant63

I hate people that preach and will push a conversation to the limit to try and get their point of veiw across. I respect peoples opinion and their right to express it......but give me a break. Cadia, I get the point that you don't like guys that cheat on their wives. Thats your opinion and you have expressed it...(lots of times). Now I think it is time to change the record. Preaching your beliefs isn't going to change how I think. I am not going to read your posts and say "sh!t, she's right, I better stop my philandering...."
Each to their own. If you don't like reading about married men having fun then don't read the post.

Cadia last visited the Board on 8-19, so I guess she picked up her pulpit and went else where. Too bad we won't have her to kick around anymore!

[Mac]

Perhaps I am moving out of the conventional sphere here but I honestly believe that if I had found LOS before my divorce I would still be married. My marriage failed due to boredom. We both looked into the future and thought, "crap, is that all there is?". Since the divorce I am getting on very well with my ex wife and am having lots of fun with girls including her. Strange but true...
Mac

[tintin]

She is still around dude! Maybe you had something that was not so boring after all!

[tootoot]

well everyone very interesting comments........i to am married 37 years of age.. in actual fact i have a great husband...i went to Phuket for a holiday with a gf and had the time of my life as well...met fantastic ppl and visited some great irish pubs with some great irish men......i to cannot wait till next april when we go back......i did nothing to be ashamed of......well nothing that bad.at the end of the day nothing is broken so it dosent have to be fixed....roll on april....

[JayBee]

Originally Posted by Mac

looked into the future and thought, "crap, is that all there is?". Since the divorce I am getting on very well with my ex wife and am having lots of fun with girls including her. Strange but true...
Mac

To a lesser degree, I can say the same thing. My ex and I get along a lot better now than before we divorced. However, she would never have been interested in going to LOS. My idea of fun is flirting, great sex, good food, beaches, bars, bargirls, massages, and having a laugh with good-natured people who really know how to enjoy themselves. That describes the scene in LOS.

The ex's idea of fun is having a luncheon date with one of her very boring friend, talking about absolutely nothing of interest to me. And for a really big day out, they go to a track meet!! Wow! I don't think I could bear the excitement.

So now i take vacations in LOS. She goes to Italy or on bus tours of museums, historical sights, usually ending up in Italy, and stuffs herself with all the fancy Italian and French food! NOt my cup of tea. Not one bit!